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02:20:37 <calamari> latest processor: DS89C430
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06:47:43 <nooga> morning
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07:40:47 <nooga> tokigun: did you started implementing SADOL ?:>
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08:21:35 <nooga> i guess that means no :>
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08:38:10 <nooga> e
08:50:36 <calamari> hi nooga
08:51:57 <nooga> hi calamari
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11:49:04 <jix> moin
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12:54:01 <tokigun> hello
12:54:11 <tokigun> hmm i've started implementing SADOL
12:55:57 <jix> cool
12:57:03 <jix> what's the best way to convert a 25,964,951 digit binary number to decimal?
12:57:25 <tokigun> you mean mersenne prime?
12:58:10 <jix> hehe
12:58:11 <jix> yes
12:58:33 <tokigun> generally FFT is used, but if you really wanna print it see http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/mersenne.html
12:59:14 <jix> that code isn't really readable
12:59:35 <tokigun> :p
12:59:55 <jix> It takes about 2 minutes 30 on a 2.4 GHz Pentium 4.... too much
13:12:46 <CXI> ...you realise that FFT is O(NlogN), right?
13:12:56 <CXI> it takes such a long time because you're converting a 25 million digit number
13:13:04 <CXI> if you want to speed it up you could always use a smaller number
13:13:37 <jix> i realized that the number is too big
13:21:23 <tokigun> hmm
13:22:29 <tokigun> perhaps i have to use something like Ruby's objectspace
13:24:53 <jix> tokigun: why?
13:28:24 <pgimeno> recent versions of gmp have a decent radix conversion routine
13:35:51 <jix> tokigun: is there a current complete SADOL spec?
13:36:18 <tokigun> nooga has written http://agentj.risp.pl/wysypisko/uploads/sadl.htm -- but he says it is obsoleted.
13:37:50 <jix> i think i'll make my own dialect
13:39:36 <tokigun> i think so... current spec is too ambiguous
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14:39:23 <WildHalcyon> I disagree, I dont think the current spec is ambiguous enough
14:39:50 <WildHalcyon> I say, if you can figure out how to build the interpreter from the spec, it gives too much away - like a mystery novel where you know who the bad guy is already!
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16:58:07 <nooga> hi
16:58:47 <nooga> wassup?
16:59:05 <jix> hmm
16:59:18 <jix> tokigun implements SADOL..
16:59:23 <jix> and i thought about it too
16:59:23 <nooga> yyaaay
16:59:37 * nooga is very happy
16:59:42 <tokigun> ;)
17:00:06 <jix> but i'd change some things in my implementation (and give it another name because its a different language then)
17:00:15 <nooga> mhm
17:00:44 <nooga> tokigun: will you threat functions like a variables? 
17:00:52 <tokigun> nooga: nope
17:01:05 <tokigun> i'll implement original spec first
17:01:36 <nooga> do you know about that A to Z symbols are always global
17:01:37 <nooga> ?
17:01:46 <nooga> and a to z are local...
17:01:49 <tokigun> yes
17:01:55 <jix> for functions too
17:02:05 <tokigun> heh?
17:02:07 <nooga> right
17:02:11 <jix> local functions
17:02:12 <tokigun> ah
17:02:31 <tokigun> i see
17:02:44 <tokigun> i'm implementing dynamic typing.. somewhat boring
17:02:49 <nooga> heh
17:02:51 <nooga> yea
17:03:06 <nooga> what language?
17:05:23 <jix> ruby afaik
17:05:50 <tokigun> nooga: http://tokigun.exca.net/dev/sadol/sadol.c current code
17:05:52 <nooga> hehe.. try to imagine me implementing lists and dynamic typing in old Free Pascal 
17:06:10 <nooga> on a 10 years old laptop
17:06:38 <jix> tokigun: you talked about ruby...
17:06:51 <jix> i thought you use it for implementing
17:06:56 <tokigun> no
17:07:07 <tokigun> i was writing code in c
17:07:33 <nooga> hmm
17:07:35 <nooga> respect
17:08:33 <nooga> writing SADOL interpreter in Perl or other lang. which has got lists and dynamic typing is easier
17:09:33 <nooga> much easier
17:10:28 <nooga> oh man
17:10:37 <nooga> your site is in corean
17:10:42 <jix> nooga: another cool esolang idea?
17:10:44 <nooga> korean
17:10:59 <nooga> jix: ?
17:11:16 <jix> nooga: do you have another cool idea for an esoteric language?
17:11:21 <nooga> no
17:11:46 <nooga> unfortunately no
17:12:01 <tokigun> nooga: yes i'm korean
17:12:08 <nooga> hehe
17:12:23 <tokigun> and as you see, my english is not very well ;)
17:12:54 <nooga> hehe
17:12:57 <nooga> like mine
17:13:01 <nooga> im Polish
17:13:11 * jix is german
17:13:43 <nooga> lol, that korean signs look kinda esoteric :)
17:14:59 <nooga> jix: actually i have one idea
17:15:27 <nooga> but it's brainfuck based
17:15:36 <nooga> and that makes it uncool
17:15:42 <jix> my only language is brainfuck based too :(
17:16:07 <jix> i don't have good ideas...
17:18:15 <nooga> so
17:18:44 <nooga> mine is brainfuck in perforated-card-like notation
17:18:47 <nooga> + ' .'
17:18:48 <nooga> - '. '
17:18:48 <nooga> > ' :'
17:18:48 <nooga> < ': '
17:18:48 <nooga> [ '.:'
17:18:49 <nooga> ] ':.'
17:18:51 <nooga> . '..'
17:18:53 <nooga> , '::'
17:19:32 <jix> that is even more uncool than mine because it's just another name for the same things... ;)
17:19:33 <nooga> and program must be written as separate rectangles 16x24 characters
17:28:30 <nooga> http://rafb.net/paste/results/os31mB56.nln.html
17:28:33 <nooga> an example ;p
17:29:50 <jix> it doesn't load here
17:30:05 <nooga> http://rafb.net/paste/results/os31mB56.html
17:30:28 <jix> no the whole rafb.net page doesn't respond...
17:30:36 <nooga> huh
17:30:41 <nooga> werid
17:30:49 <jix> i can ping the server
17:30:52 <jix> ah it works now
17:31:25 <jix> but it's just another way to write brainfuck
17:31:31 <jix> my language is based on brainfuck but different
17:31:44 <jix> http://esolangs.org/wiki/YABALL
17:32:30 <nooga> a
17:32:43 <nooga> 2d
17:32:54 <nooga> hehe
17:33:12 <nooga> maybe it will be funny to write SADOL interpreter in Java
17:33:23 <nooga> and create MSADOL
17:33:34 <nooga> Multithreaded SADOL >:D
17:34:23 <tokigun> wow
17:35:09 <nooga> but i dont know Java ;p
17:36:45 <nooga> damn
17:37:04 <nooga> my dog needs to ... nvm
17:37:26 <nooga> got to go... maybe i'll be back
17:37:32 <nooga> bye
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17:37:51 <tokigun> i'm going to sleep
17:37:53 <tokigun> bye ;)
17:38:19 <jix> to sleep?
17:45:56 <puzzlet> it's 1:41 AM in Korea
17:46:10 <puzzlet> oops 1:50 AM
17:48:36 <jix> fix your clock (18:47:15<puzzlet>oops 1:50 AM)
17:49:30 <puzzlet> perhaps there's a personal daylight saving time in my computer
17:50:09 <puzzlet> or something i don't know
17:50:20 <puzzlet> ;)
17:50:37 <jix> i sync my clock with a timeserver so it should be the correct time
17:50:48 <puzzlet> so do i
17:50:53 <jix> hum
17:50:55 <puzzlet> my ubuntu should do it for me
17:51:03 <jix> my osx should do it for me
17:51:23 <puzzlet> i got an idea
17:51:26 <puzzlet> ask ChanServ 
17:51:48 <puzzlet> only if i can know how.
17:52:00 <puzzlet> nonsense.
17:52:32 <jix> your clock is 2 minutes in front of mine.. (and a few time zones but that doesn't affect minutes)
17:52:48 <tokigun> hm back
17:52:54 <puzzlet> i know
17:53:16 <jix> oops
17:53:16 <puzzlet> i got a remote server crashed and i can't figure out why
17:53:39 <puzzlet> when i ping it doesn't pong back
17:53:47 <tokigun> i also sync my clock with a timeserver
17:54:02 <jix> tokigun: your clock is -1 min (compared with mine)
17:54:06 <tokigun> hmm
17:54:08 <tokigun> wait...
17:54:18 <jix> maybe the timeserver-hoster want chaos all over the world!
17:54:24 <tokigun> it says it's 01:55:27 KST
17:54:30 <puzzlet> IRC must have a good time sync bot
17:54:32 <jix> maybe the nasa kidnapped all timeserver-hosters 
17:55:05 <puzzlet> what for?
17:55:06 <tokigun> hmm
17:55:17 <jix> to control the time
17:55:33 <puzzlet> but time flys like an arrow
17:55:38 <tokigun> when my clock reads 01:55:27, cmeme says it was 01:55:28
17:56:03 <tokigun> it seems that my clock is correct with error less than 10 seconds
17:56:12 <jix> hmm yes
17:56:24 <jix> have to restart my mac.. new tv-card driver installed
17:56:27 <puzzlet> then it's me whose time's incorrect
17:56:54 <puzzlet> AAARGH MY SERVER!!
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17:57:22 <tokigun> puzzlet: when my sync program was inactive for unknown reason, it has error more than minutes. :S
17:58:28 <puzzlet> does that mean your hardware fails to keep its clock constant?
17:59:31 <lindi-> linux doesn't use hardware clock when it's running afaik
17:59:58 <lindi-> it just reads it on bootup
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19:07:07 <nooga> how's it going?
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19:08:48 <nooga> tokigun
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19:32:56 <nooga> hello
19:34:53 <WildHalcyon_> hello nooga
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19:59:46 <nooga_> jix
20:02:27 <nooga_> jix
20:02:30 <nooga_> r u there?
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20:06:33 * nooga listens to the Pink Floyd ;p
20:33:22 <nooga> lol -> http://photos6.flickr.com/7234920_0aed5a3cd2.jpg?v=0
20:40:14 <nooga> heh]
20:43:47 <nooga> blah blah blah
20:43:52 <nooga> anybody here?
21:23:51 <WildHalcyon_> hola
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