00:25:48 -!- graue has quit ("Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little."). 00:56:46 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 01:08:17 255 in 33 (as opposed to the page's 34): ++++[>++++++++[>++++++++<-]<-]>>- 01:09:29 Oh wait, darn, that wraps doesn't it. 01:09:39 I rescind my statement ;) 01:33:05 -!- jimbo000 has joined. 02:27:22 -!- jimbo000 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:35:55 -!- kipple__ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:18:58 -!- clog has joined. 08:18:58 -!- clog has joined. 08:22:46 -!- msingh has joined. 08:23:00 is this the channel for perverts? 08:25:11 Only if you think esoteric programming languages are perverse. 08:25:59 right 08:26:03 and i think thats reasonable 08:28:28 "marked by a disposition to oppose and contradict", "resistant to guidance or discipline", "marked by immorality; deviating from what is considered right or proper or good"; I guess that does apply. 08:29:49 maybe perverted programming language would have been a better term. plus it has a cool acronym: ppl 08:30:36 hmm no point denying it though, we are talking about perverts 08:31:04 #perverted might have gotten too many non-programming-related visitors. 08:31:18 fizzie: heh, good point. 08:31:37 :) 08:32:03 I suppose one could argue that using esoteric the way we do is, in fact, slightly perverted by itself. 08:32:37 and being perverted and all, it makes sense we'd never call ourselves that. 08:40:50 msingh: any connection to Manish Singh? 08:44:00 pgimeno, nope sorry 08:47:38 ok, just wondering (he's involved in the gimp project) 08:50:53 oh, those crackheads 08:51:01 i now see why you asked 09:02:00 -!- Keymaker has joined. 09:04:34 hehe 09:06:49 -!- tokigun has joined. 09:07:00 hello 09:07:18 hello 09:07:42 I'm working on this page: http://dev.tokigun.net/esolang/versert/ 09:08:15 (written in Korean, but perhaps you can read list of instructions) 09:09:30 looks nice 09:09:36 :) 09:09:48 it's 2d language, right? 09:09:51 yes. 09:09:58 ok 09:10:03 imagine befunge without stack 09:10:41 * Keymaker dies 09:10:46 ok 09:11:47 hmm, so this has the stuff that befunge has, for changing the stuff on the grid? 09:12:00 that allows also self modifying code? 09:12:08 Keymaker: yes 09:12:16 ok 09:12:45 it has two registers, and one vector(or pointer) to manipulate code space 09:13:29 ok 09:13:39 registers, places to store values? 09:14:28 can it read the value of some coordinate to register? 09:16:09 if you have time sometime convert the page to english ;) 09:22:59 nice language. 09:28:12 Heh, it has the conditional #. 09:28:56 whats with the dx,dys? 09:29:46 translate all the stuff to english, i wanna code something with this :) 09:30:06 The direction-changing commands seem to be the "standard" "mirror-like" ones. 09:30:23 this is probably turing complete language, as well.. 09:31:12 Is there a fixed size for "space", or is it potentially-unlimited? 09:39:00 Hey, I can use babelfish's famous korean-to-english translation for this. Apparently "The Versert was originated with the programming language which isdifficult rabbit army river characteristic Hoon made at 2005". 09:39:21 "The cord space which stores the cord on the execution middle is composed of 2 dimension plane surface of the size which is infinite, to each unit the coordinate comes to give." 09:39:41 It sounds very.. metaphysical, but I guess it means that there's no fixed size. 09:39:54 -!- grimace_ has joined. 09:40:48 :D ROFL 09:41:19 well, if babelfish says that i guess that's what tokigun has meant.. 09:41:28 The "It makes with the C and it is a position to sprout and phu liter fromhere is a possibility of receiving." part is a bit less clear.. 09:41:36 oops... 09:41:41 :) 09:41:50 babelfish is evil! :p 10:03:51 i've finished rough translation: http://dev.tokigun.net/esolang/versert/index_en.php 10:14:23 I did something similar to that based on lasers 10:14:36 it was called 'Smoke And Mirrors' or S&M for short 10:16:43 actually, maybe it wasn't that similar... 10:17:29 as I recall I had to struggle to get it to perform logical AND and NOT 10:20:48 :) 10:20:50 cheers 10:24:17 | moves DP A cells *right*, B cells down...? 10:26:56 hmm... my english is not good :S 10:27:39 it means "adding (A, B) to DP". 10:27:48 looks good to me :) 10:27:55 Well, compared to babelfish... ("The A, Oh as the B it moves the DP with Raes side with the left side. The coordinate price 0 sees is exchanged at 0 it comes to be small.") 10:28:21 yahahaha 10:28:31 hehe ;) 10:28:49 :D 10:34:35 hmm | instruction will changed. 10:34:39 will be 10:38:41 "If dx or dy is less than zero, it will be adjusted to zero." is removed now... i forgot to remove it. :) 10:39:38 eh, there are already application programmers, and you change the specs :) 10:41:38 oh... sorry :) 10:42:47 It's that release-early-release-often style. 10:43:14 no problem just increase a version number :) 10:44:15 -!- kipple__ has joined. 10:47:45 hei kipple 10:47:51 [/polyglot] 10:56:55 -!- msingh has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 11:14:25 -!- tokigun has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 11:15:26 -!- tokigun has joined. 11:15:37 updated to firefox 1.0.6 11:20:47 quine: 11:20:48 # #/ 0| 0~4+8*0~|}-0~|#/{~.00\ 11:20:48 " @\# -2+{|~0*8-4~0.~*5+2\#{|1~/ 11:21:29 (hadn't tested on your interpreter) 11:23:01 looks delicious 11:23:10 how quick 11:39:47 must go. 11:39:49 -!- Keymaker has quit ("Funkadelic!"). 11:41:06 mtve: it prints just first line on my interpreter... hmm 11:41:19 did you make your own interpreter? 11:41:33 so there is a bug somewhere :) 11:41:34 yup 11:45:43 http://www.frox25.no-ip.org/~mtve/wiki/Versert.html 12:09:35 -!- jix has joined. 12:11:01 helo 12:11:06 oops... hello :) 12:13:16 works fine with your interpreter (just fetched) 12:21:54 hmm 12:22:11 sorry but can you put your quine again? 12:22:32 # #/ 0| 0~4+8*0~|}-0~|#/{~.00\ 12:22:32 " @\# -2+{|~0*8-4~0.~*5+2\#{|1~/ 12:22:48 # and " is first column? 12:22:53 yep 12:23:49 hmm... 12:24:27 doesn't work. i think my irc client has whitespace problem (or somewhat)... 12:25:19 but it does print first line, doesn't it? 12:25:44 oh... it works. 12:26:03 there is three spaces between 0| and 0~4+8... :) 12:42:50 mtve: i uploaded your quine to Versert home page. see http://dev.tokigun.net/esolang/versert/code/index_en.php :) 12:43:17 thanks :) 12:51:18 #/#.0~1\ 12:51:19 @\#+,~-/ 12:51:26 cat program in Versert. 12:53:00 hmm, "." looks unreachable 12:53:52 mtve: but it works :) 12:54:31 to process EOF, it sets -1 to A before , instruction. 12:55:07 after , instruction, A is -1 or inputed character, and B is 1. 12:55:44 so if A + B = 0, it reached EOF... 12:56:36 hmm 12:56:48 yep, but i don't get program flow, how "." get reached? (and it does not work with my interp) 12:57:36 mtve: assuming A is -1. 12:57:55 then after + instruction, B is 0 and program is terminated. 12:58:19 if A is not -1, B is not 0 so \ and . instruction is executed. 12:59:06 (then... i mean, if \ instruction can get reached, . instruction can.) 12:59:40 anyway... i made some mistakes in Versert spec. 13:03:47 after "\" at (x=1,y=1) it goes to "/" (x=1,y=0), then to "#" (x=2,y=0) and then jumps over ".", doesn't it? 13:04:00 # is a conditional jump, right? 13:04:04 fizzie: yes. 13:04:14 oops, sorry. i get it. 13:04:16 If it doesn't jump over the lower \, I don't see why it would jump over the . 13:04:20 ;) 15:09:53 ... 15:10:53 Darn, no #perverted 15:11:37 -!- yrz has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 15:29:06 -!- yrz has joined. 15:29:25 -!- yrz has changed nick to yrz\werk. 16:17:54 -!- tokigun has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"). 16:31:57 -!- RaynServ_Hosting has joined. 16:32:16 -!- RaynServ_Hosting has left (?). 16:40:00 -!- fungebob has quit ("Today is a good day to chat."). 16:47:19 Either I don't know how to use BFASM, or it's rather slow >_> 16:50:15 Aha! 16:50:24 bfasm 0.10 works perfectly for me, bfasm 0.20 hangs on hello.asm 17:28:59 -!- BigZaphod has quit. 18:02:44 -!- grimace_ has left (?). 18:05:27 -!- BigZaphod has joined. 19:07:36 -!- RaynServ_Hosting has joined. 19:07:37 -!- kipple__ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 19:09:47 -!- kipple__ has joined. 20:25:00 YAAAAY! 20:25:09 I made a generic div-and-mod snippet in Brainfuck 8-D 20:26:33 It's horrible, however *shrugs* 20:26:38 But it does div and mod! 20:26:43 >>>[-]<<[>>+<<-]>[-]>>[-]>[-]>[-]>[-]<-[<<[-]>[-]<<[>+>+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]<[-<<<<->> 20:26:43 >>>[-]>[+]<<<<<[-]>[-]<<[>+>+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]<[>>>>+<<<<[-]]>>>>->+<[>>[<<<<<<<+>> 20:26:43 >>>>>-]<-<+]>-[<<<<<[-]>>>[>[-]+<<<<+>>>-]>-[+<<<<<+>>>>>]+>+]<<]>>>+<<[>+<-]>-] 20:26:43 >[-]<<<<[-]<<< 20:33:32 -!- RaynServ_Hosting has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 21:09:54 -!- RaynServ_Hosting has joined. 21:11:13 -!- RaynServ_Hosting has quit (Client Quit). 22:02:26 <{^Raven^}> Gregor: cool 22:55:50 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 23:04:06 -!- puzzlet has joined. 23:07:04 -!- BigZaphod has quit. 23:18:30 -!- heatsink has joined. 23:59:25 -!- wooby has joined.