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jix: do you want to prove that 1 register is enough? 18:56:20 -!- Kmkr has joined. 18:56:32 hello 18:59:01 shazam! 19:01:19 heippa hei Kmkr 19:04:27 hi Kmkr 19:05:00 hi 19:05:06 shapr: finnish? 19:05:19 No, I'm from Alabama. 19:05:21 ah 19:05:31 But I lived in Finland for a few years. 19:05:38 hey, it's shapr 19:05:42 cool 19:05:42 i didn't notice 19:05:43 oh hi lament 19:05:50 hyvää ihltaa lament :-) 19:06:19 hellooo tto you ttoo :P 19:57:36 http://z3.ca/~lament/elise.mp3 19:58:42 working title: Elise in Furs 20:02:13 -!- mtve has joined. 20:06:11 -!- J|x has joined. 20:07:13 -!- jix has quit (Nick collision from services.). 20:07:16 -!- J|x has changed nick to jix. 20:10:30 lament: that mp3 is a hoot 20:10:33 love it 20:19:35 -!- yrz\werk has joined. 20:34:44 -!- yrz\werk1 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:49:55 -!- Joeboy has quit ("Leaving"). 20:59:55 {^Raven^}: my minsky machine compiler code is worse than the bf code 21:00:11 the interpreter was a quick hack 21:00:27 and i'm building the compiler by modifying the interpreter 21:15:14 30% of the output file are goto commands 21:15:36 fungebob: thanks! 21:25:30 now i have to add a sax solo... 21:42:06 lament: i just happened on Prelude and Fugue - do you have any sample Prelude source around? 21:45:17 well, there's the tiny fibonacci that i forgot who wrote: 21:45:28 1(v+ 21:45:28 1 !v 21:45:29 v) 21:45:38 here's a factorial program: 21:45:38 5(v(1-)#1-) 21:45:38 1 # v+ ! 21:45:39 v 21:46:12 that's about it. 21:49:42 is there a good visual befunge interpreter? 21:50:38 jix: theres the flunger for 93 21:50:50 http://jimbomania.com/code/flunger.html 21:51:02 hope you got flash 21:51:14 non flash 21:51:19 doh 21:51:35 it's nice for small apps but i'd like a native or sdl app 21:51:48 jix: there's also freshmeat.net/projects/bfdebug/ which you can run without non-free tools, almost 21:52:06 whoops, that's different project 21:53:09 oh and windows/gtk/kde is non-native for me 21:53:12 x11 too 21:53:17 jix: check the files at calamari's web page http://lilly.csoft.net/~jeffryj/programs/bf/ 21:53:34 jix: what do you mean by native then? 21:53:37 but it would be ok.. but i often accidentally close browser windows :( 21:53:42 osx 21:54:01 i thought it has X 21:54:03 befunge not brainfuck 21:54:14 argh 21:54:18 lindi-: but it's not the native GUI engine 21:54:27 seems i can't think clearly today :) 21:54:37 jix: out of curiosity, can you run openGL apps via Glut or SDL? 21:54:45 fungebob: both 21:54:59 or via x11 or via native gui 21:55:12 or via *insert-toolkit-here* in x11 21:55:54 but x11 isn't as fast as quartz and it has a different look and feel 21:58:53 fungebob: the p instruction in flunger is slower than the other ones 22:00:32 jix: indeed, on p it recreates the string in the main textfield(linebreak \r delimited) from the 80x25 array of ints 22:00:57 it used to just use the string itself for storage, but got screwy on non-printable ascii chars 22:01:51 ah 22:02:07 lament: is each line in those programs dedicated to a separate voice? 22:02:45 jix: now that you mention it, i bet i could optimize that. i have noticed that flash tends to play slower on the macs ive tried it on 22:05:08 i think flash doesn't use mac os x's graphic engine which is very fast and optimized for the mac h/w.. 22:07:39 i wrote a filter for core image (Part of the osx graphic engine) for generating fractals(julia sets) in realtime using only the video cart 22:10:11 -!- Kmkr has quit. 22:13:13 nah in 3? weeks just 1 vote for http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-lazy-k-768.html 22:19:00 jix: see if this is any faster for you http://jimbomania.com/code/flunger.html 22:19:05 took some loops out 22:19:58 fungebob: uhm if i load the sirpinski program it doesn't look like i think it should 22:20:19 jix: uh, yep that is definitely borked:) 22:20:44 ok back to the testing phase on that one 22:21:08 it's faster 22:21:16 but p is still too slow imho 22:21:58 i had considered making 80*25 individual textboxes, which could speed it up but cost i dunno how much memory 22:22:57 hmm 80*25 textboxes is a lot 22:23:21 uh oh serpinsky looks the same in the old version too, ack what ahppened here 22:23:34 chess too 22:24:16 and quine2 doesn't work 22:24:21 ouch 22:25:23 * jix is müde 22:25:25 nite 22:25:34 seeya 22:25:39 -!- fungebob has quit ("Today is a good day to chat."). 22:25:40 -!- jix has quit ("Banned from network"). 23:45:36 not really esolang, but this was fun: http://www.bigzaphod.org/life.html 23:45:42 game of life in CSS + javascript. :) 23:46:03 no browser checks and works in IE, Mozilla, safari, opera (tested so far). 23:51:17 man composing is hard. 23:53:36 composing what? 23:54:13 anything. 23:54:23 (music, not functions :)) 23:54:37 I don't find it hard to come up with music, only hard to write it down. 23:55:07 maybe you have talent, or something. 23:55:11 Not saying anything I come up with is any good though... 23:55:21 Just that I could make a living as /dev/urandom 23:58:22 I think I have a natural talent for doing creative stuff. I don't think I have a natural talent for programming, but it's what I prefer. 23:59:37 I've always felt a burning need to program. it can sometimes be a curse. meanwhile I often want to be able to do other creative things like draw, but can't. grass is always greener.