00:05:30 who's first to write 99bob in this language? :) 00:05:42 you? ;) 00:05:55 i hope not! :p 00:15:09 if there is space before instruction, do i use '!'? like for example 00:15:11 !!!!B 00:20:14 it could provide interesting results if a competition was held in this language.. for example, "write the shortest program to print out 'Hello, I'm some data..' to win!" 00:20:43 what do you mean if there's space before an instruction? 00:20:56 i mean if there is spaces 00:21:00 if a character doesn't get executed it can be anything (exclamation mark, space, etc) 00:21:06 ah ok then 00:22:57 what means "out of bounds"? 00:23:05 the interpreter doesn't like my code :) 00:23:14 it means your code left the rectangle of code space 00:23:27 the only clean way to exit is a C (command 67) 00:23:44 that i've been trying to.. 00:24:04 there seems to be error somewhere 00:24:25 but, anyways. 00:24:27 i need to go. 00:24:59 i have to wake "early" (8 am) today.. for many days i've slept till 3 pm.. :) 00:25:17 nite 00:25:19 -!- Kmkr has quit ("I've seen this déjà vu before.."). 00:32:58 -!- jix has quit ("Banned from network"). 00:58:07 -!- graue has quit. 03:06:10 -!- graue has joined. 03:47:21 -!- graue_ has joined. 03:55:46 -!- graue has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). 03:57:34 -!- graue_ has left (?). 04:02:55 -!- fungebob has quit (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds). 04:47:20 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 05:51:12 -!- calamari has joined. 05:51:16 hi 06:17:45 -!- scribble has joined. 06:18:20 -!- scribble has left (?). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 09:27:45 -!- calamari has quit (Remote closed the connection). 11:13:51 <{^Raven^}> morning 11:29:38 -!- yrz\werk_ has changed nick to yrz\werk. 12:05:03 -!- jix has joined. 14:25:04 -!- yrz\werk has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). 14:28:23 -!- yrz\werk has joined. 20:05:45 -!- J|x has joined. 20:15:52 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:25:25 I haven't actually read any of this yet, but it looks interesting: http://cs.wellesley.edu/~fturbak/pubs/6821/current/ 20:45:10 -!- J|x has changed nick to jix. 21:04:00 -!- Kmkr has joined. 21:04:08 woah. thanks for that link 21:04:16 really cool book 21:04:32 i'm sure going to read it 21:04:39 it's fairly new book as well 21:43:47 <{^Raven^}> hi keymaker 21:48:35 hi 21:52:35 <{^Raven^}> calamari and I have been working on BFBASIC, new version is available on SF 21:52:46 ah 21:54:06 <{^Raven^}> more stuff coming soon I hope, calamari has written a really nice symbolic debugger in Java for BF 21:54:48 cool 21:56:22 where can i find BFBASIC? 21:57:38 <{^Raven^}> jix: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/brainfuck/bfbasic/ 22:01:29 i get a proxy error msg but i don't use a proxy 22:02:03 so get i 22:02:10 (and i don't use proxy) 22:02:45 <{^Raven^}> hmmm... 1 sec... 22:04:00 <{^Raven^}> Temporarily available here: http://jonripley.com/~jon/bfbasic-1.41.zip 22:05:08 i'll need to go 22:05:11 'nite 22:05:14 -!- Kmkr has quit ("I've seen this déjà vu before.."). 22:05:19 <{^Raven^}> nite 22:06:40 -!- jix has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:06:47 -!- jix has joined. 22:29:58 hmm whirl basic? 22:30:37 <{^Raven^}> Should be possible for any suitably motivated person :) 22:32:13 i'm going to write a whirl-basic 22:34:31 * {^Raven^} tries to imagine the look on BigZaphod's face when he sees the release version :) 22:34:56 hrhr 22:36:02 i'll start with a whirl asm and then a basic=>whirl asm converter 22:37:38 <{^Raven^}> hmmm...With that method you could have inline assembler inside a Whirl BASIC program 22:38:33 * {^Raven^} would love to be able to retarget Small-C to something esoteric 22:39:08 hmm whirl is that whirly i need 3 levels.. basic=>high-level-asm=>low-level-asm(only the whirl instructions)=>whirl 22:39:12 3 steps 22:41:37 but first i need to sleep 22:41:40 g'nite 22:41:44 <{^Raven^}> nite 22:41:57 -!- jix has quit ("WHIRL"). 23:36:55 -!- calamari has joined. 23:38:40 hi 23:39:22 <{^Raven^}> hullo calamari 23:39:40 hi raven 23:43:06 -!- graue has joined. 23:55:56 hi graue 23:56:01 hi calamari 23:56:06 <{^Raven^}> hay graue 23:56:13 hay {^Raven^} 23:56:18 graue: how is it that the dumps seem to be getting smaller, instead of larger? :) 23:56:26 I don't know 23:56:39 need to patent that and sell it ;) 23:56:40 there's a "cache" of some kind in there... 23:56:50 oic 23:56:54 and the old deleted stuff might actually get expunged after a while (I'm not sure about this)... 23:57:01 and I stopped including the user tables 23:57:15 privacy concerns? 23:57:22 security 23:57:25 it contained hashed passwords 23:57:45 oic 23:57:49 which, of course, may be a secure hash, but if your password is an english word or something, that would still be enough to compromise it