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http://www.mypenguin.de/prg/progs.php?lang=en :) 23:13:05 now trying if it works.. 23:14:23 aaaaaargh, i can't probably get it working 23:15:47 ooops, i guess the link i posted is to some atari site 23:15:58 so this is probably for atari(?) 23:37:32 keymaker: thanks 23:38:08 keymaker: a little more powerful is my asm -> bf compiler.. doesn't produce very good bf code, though 23:40:50 i see 23:43:59 that picture that has inside it some brainfuck stuff seems interesting.. anyways; good night everyone, i'll go to sleep. :) 23:44:07 -!- Keymaker has left (?). 2005-01-16: 00:01:11 calamari: oh, i have a program to do almost the reverse ;) 00:57:01 lindi: everyone does hehe :) 02:31:01 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:31:03 -!- calamari_ has joined. 05:23:16 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 10:20:35 -!- cpressey has quit (Remote closed the connection). 10:25:00 -!- cpressey has joined. 12:05:05 -!- Keymaker has joined. 12:05:09 hi 12:05:40 is there something wrong in the following befunge-93 program? here: 12:05:42 "!dlroW olleH"> #,_@ 12:05:56 i'm trying to print hello world 12:06:45 yes, it drops half of chars :) 12:06:49 yes 12:06:53 but why??!! 12:07:01 _ operator pops the stack 12:07:11 yea 12:07:19 oh 12:07:42 could be "!dlroW olleH">:# #,_@ 12:07:51 ye 12:07:52 a 12:07:53 :) 12:07:55 thanks 12:08:00 i forgot that 12:08:15 (well, "it's my first day!") 12:08:42 i'd add a leading zero, just for compatibility reasons :) 12:09:08 i see.. 12:12:03 this seems to be pretty good language :) (though, can't beat brainfuck, naturally!) 12:13:19 matter of taste 12:13:27 :) 12:13:32 yes 12:13:46 anyways, here is the final version of this: "!dlroW olleH"> #, :# _@ 12:13:58 without that leading zero 12:14:18 could crash some naive interpreter 12:14:35 could be 12:14:40 ..but that's their problem :p 12:15:31 by the way, if programs starts with a " 12:15:59 will the first in stack be 0 or the one that is followed by " 12:16:19 "hi" would there be on stack 0 h i 12:16:22 or just h i 12:16:24 ? 12:17:06 just 104 105 12:17:15 ok 12:17:34 and most of implementations pop zero from empty stack. 12:17:47 ok 12:18:06 (it's not strict programming to depend on this behavior imo) 12:18:06 and probably supposed to, iirc that was in the language syntax i read yesterday :) 12:18:16 yeah 12:18:31 i especially like the '? 12:18:42 feature of this language 12:18:54 (i accidentally pressed return while writing that..) 12:19:03 question mark, i see. 12:19:11 :) 12:24:18 sorry, i've confused top with bottom, should be 104 105 12:29:10 ok :) 12:29:24 anyways, here's a random byte generator: 12:29:25 8> v 12:29:25 ^_25*,@>?1v 12:29:25 : 0 12:29:25 ^ -1 .< < 12:29:43 this befunge is easy to learn 12:33:07 v v v v v v v v 12:33:07 >?1>?1>?1>?1>?1>?1>?1>?1>........25*,@ 12:33:07 >0^>0^>0^>0^>0^>0^>0^>0^ 12:34:11 hehe, here's nice one :) 12:34:50 it's fun because there are so many different ways to write a program 12:42:58 ..and it's nice to see the code getting more complex, when trying to get it smaller; 12:42:59 8> v 12:42:59 ^_25*,@v0?1v 12:42:59 ^ :-1.< ^#< 12:43:33 golf! 12:43:47 isn't there befunge golf yet? :) 12:45:04 hmmm.. according to google, seems that there's no :) 12:46:28 anyways, i'll go now, bye :) 12:46:29 -!- Keymaker has quit. 13:47:15 -!- kpreid has quit. 13:48:24 -!- kpreid has joined. 19:18:01 -!- ChanServ has quit (ACK! 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just tried if someone falls to that trick :) 18:54:11 not good 18:54:16 :) 18:54:21 ok i'm sorry! 18:55:52 but while i am it, i'd still like to hear if anyone is interested about that bf comp..? 19:01:13 this channel is clearly trying to keep its status as 'the idle channel', i see. ok, well, i won't talk about that again. 19:03:55 hi keymaker 19:03:58 what bf comp? 19:04:08 on planing stage 19:04:10 a new competition 19:04:18 won't be component competition #2 19:04:22 I am bad at tight bf, unfortunately.. hehe 19:04:28 ? 19:04:34 :) 19:04:48 I usually just like to watch and marvel 19:04:56 i see 19:05:07 but you were in bfcc #1 right? 19:05:11 nope 19:05:19 oh :) 19:05:21 ok then 19:05:46 I was about to enter a bfbasic solution one time.. but I figured it was no use :) 19:05:49 but anyways, in this one'll need to make a program that'll be a bit longer than in competitions usually 19:05:56 heh 19:06:38 yeah, that'd be cheating a bit :) hmmm, must add to the rules that use of bfbasic or any other tool that can make up bf code (in case there are any) is illegal :) 19:13:07 anyways, it'd be nice to hear if anyone is working on any 'crazy' code? 19:13:16 anyone working on any esolang project? 19:25:16 Keymaker: doubt you'd need that rule 19:25:48 the winner will be optimizing by hand 19:26:49 yeah 19:26:54 naturally 19:27:16 nothing can beat good ol' brain 19:28:31 the score will be counted the same way than in bfcc 1, probably, that is, used memory * program length * instructions executed 19:38:36 hmm.... 19:38:45 i have nothing to do :\ 19:50:30 hmmm, i'll probably start working now on one-time pad (OTP) encryption program on brainfuck 19:50:42 'nite 19:50:44 -!- Keymaker has quit. 20:45:22 -!- calamari_ has joined. 20:46:15 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 22:30:09 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 2005-01-22: 03:55:44 -!- cmeme has joined. 03:56:01 -!- cmeme has quit (Remote closed the connection). 03:56:43 -!- cmeme has joined. 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23:50:35 unfortunately, calculator frizzed, so it got lost :( 23:50:40 I should rewrite it someday 23:50:42 :( 23:50:44 ok 23:51:13 I'd love to test the quine on it :P 23:51:31 i see 23:51:42 too bad i can't yet upload this 23:51:57 yet 23:52:05 since i don't have any space yet 23:52:12 but that i will get sooner or later.. 23:53:21 :) 2005-01-29: 00:09:03 well, i'll go.. sleepy.. zzZZz 00:09:08 -!- Keymaker has left (?). 00:22:52 -!- urger has joined. 00:23:04 Hi 00:25:35 I'm working on a new language 00:25:37 GRAB 00:26:06 Standing for GRAB's Really A Bitch (or Bastard if that be your want) 00:26:32 If anyone's interested it should be ready for release toward the end of next week 00:26:45 Some features: 00:26:49 No variables 00:27:12 Code can only modify itself 00:28:04 No built in accsess to tarditonal math (no addition, subtraction, etc.) 00:28:25 Or however that'd be spelled :-) 00:29:02 Whenever a command is executed it erases itself from the code 00:29:21 (the only way to loop is copy code foward) 00:29:26 sample source: 00:29:37 equivlent of 1 + ! 00:29:39 er 00:29:45 1 + 1 00:29:53 :(*) 00:30:11 smallest possible loop ( I think) 00:30:22 `>(`>)() 00:30:33 One last thing 00:30:47 To make the code all the more evil it was coded in BASIC 00:31:05 Anyone interested should email me at nhbrr@yahoo.com 00:31:14 Thanks 00:31:30 -!- urger has left (?). 00:31:44 sounds like an interesting idea. You should... you left. nevermind. 00:44:28 Hehe. :) 05:54:30 -!- calamari has joined. 05:57:37 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:53:31 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 09:48:15 -!- arke_ has joined. 09:56:48 -!- arke has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 10:07:42 -!- arke_ has changed nick to arke. 18:06:17 -!- corun has joined. 18:06:20 Lo 18:07:14 -!- ThemsAllTook has joined. 18:15:50 -!- ThemsAllTook has left (?). 18:49:30 -!- calamari has joined. 19:22:12 lololololo 20:04:05 hi lament 20:05:20 hi 20:05:24 how's your grand project 20:10:53 which one? :) 20:10:58 bfc? 20:12:17 I'm taking an OS class this semester.. although it seems to be pretty lame. For example, in the tiny "relocation" section of the book, it simply assumes the cpu will do it. Blah. 20:14:12 I think I came up with an idea for lesser cpus. Each 256 bytes can have a header that tells the offset of an absolute jump. Then when reading the program, the jumps can be quickly found and altered 20:14:38 (or jumps.. the first byte of the header can tell how many there are) 20:15:45 The reason I decided every 256 bytes is so that it will still work no matter how large the file gets 20:16:42 anyhow.. I'd like to take the compilers class before I continue work on bfc 20:20:59 whats bfc? 20:21:02 brainfuck compiler? 20:30:22 c compiler, probably 20:30:33 brainfuck compiler wouldn't make such a grand project 20:30:39 aah 20:30:42 found it 20:30:46 optimizing brainfuck -> c 20:40:35 arke: bfc is a c to bf compiler 20:40:40 err bfcc 20:40:42 sorry :) 20:40:59 cant even remember what I've named my own programs, lol 20:41:54 :) 20:42:26 arke: I wrote bfasm so that the C compiler would be easier to do 20:43:42 i wrote a VM and a BF compiler for it for my TI-83 20:43:50 unfortunately, the calculator frizzed, so its gone now :( 20:44:02 bfasm is available, and works, although programs are bloated: it doesn't produce optimized strings or add-to loops for +/- 20:45:35 it optimized +es etc., but not any sequences. :) 20:45:53 although, i did have the code in place for it, just didnt do the actual thing yet 20:45:57 arke: I'm talking about something different :) 20:46:24 arke: if you take a look at the code bfasm produces, you'll see long strings of ++++ and ---- 20:46:36 aah 20:46:42 yeah, i optimized that 20:46:46 to ADD 3 or wahtever 20:47:11 I suppose that the code runs faster without the loops, so you could say I optimized for speed :P 20:47:28 :) 20:49:00 soemthing that i added but never used is that if P was negative, it would enter into the insrtuction stream 20:49:07 the compiled image, so to speak 20:51:18 it would be pretty tricky to do self modifying bf code.. probably would need nul characters in the source 20:51:50 either that or tons of <<< and >>> ick :) 20:52:27 I thought about allowing it in bfos, but decided against it 20:53:30 need to get off here and get some work done.. bbl :) 20:53:36 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 23:03:52 -!- calamari has joined. 23:08:10 -!- corun has left (?). 23:36:37 -!- heatsink has joined. 2005-01-30: 00:13:47 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 01:17:32 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 03:21:12 -!- heatsink has joined. 03:54:45 -!- madcow8081 has joined. 03:56:24 -!- madcow8081 has quit (Client Quit). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:50:30 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 16:15:02 -!- ksandstr has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 16:47:26 -!- ksandstr has joined. 2005-01-31: 00:04:48 -!- madcow8081 has joined. 00:18:26 -!- heatsink has joined. 00:36:21 -!- madcow8081 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 04:46:29 -!- heatsink has quit ("Leaving"). 05:49:35 -!- calamari has joined. 06:47:01 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 17:37:42 -!- ksandstr has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:10:13 -!- calamari has joined. 19:30:51 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 20:18:10 -!- Taaus_ has joined. 20:18:35 -!- Taaus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:08:44 -!- calamari has joined. 22:01:37 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 22:16:54 -!- gkhan has joined. 22:43:52 -!- gkhan has left (?).