< 1088668799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1088668800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1088669642 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088678784 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1088700352 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus|away < 1088702682 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088702880 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088710272 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088710427 0 :iamcal!~bees@h69-cpe104.insinc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088722848 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1088722952 0 :Toreu1!~Toreun@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088722958 0 :Toreu1!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Toreun < 1088741668 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088741694 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out what was wrong with my bloody computer! < 1088742393 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1088744802 0 :tonsofpcs!~mirx@ool-4351f382.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088744813 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tonsofpcs < 1088744834 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi little french-israeli girl < 1088744976 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088744992 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi WildHalcyon < 1088745000 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was wrong with your comp? < 1088745024 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he sees your name on his screen < 1088747048 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wild -- check where he got his name from -- its a list of french-israeli girl names < 1088747061 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gardiensdudonon.free.fr/t/Nom_F-Ton.htm < 1088747489 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088747823 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1088748612 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1088748627 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no french israli girl names, not that you're here anymore! < 1088748667 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, Toreun, it turns out that SOMETHING has a conflict with one of the windows automatic updates... once I installed it, it would screw up alllllll the time! < 1088748668 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if there's a nonsense contest in progress < 1088748681 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is best at talking nonsense < 1088748793 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im still having problems with my esolang :-( < 1088748811 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least that's a problem with my own thinking process, and not a manufactured malfunction < 1088748826 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... what is it? I'll try to find it in the archives < 1088748843 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont know if I mentioned it there < 1088748861 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned some problems, but the problem that Im having right now is different < 1088748877 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im trying to think of a usable syntax for a two-dimensional lambda function < 1088748880 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me about your different problem, WildHalcyon? < 1088748894 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you try to think of a usable syntax for a two-dimensional lambda function often? < 1088748899 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION turns off Eliza < 1088748910 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1088748953 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, constantly practically < 1088748956 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is Eliza? < 1088748985 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eliza is an old chatterbot, it worked by turning everything the other person said into a question < 1088749020 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(very( old < 1088749025 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*very* < 1088749048 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see < 1088749049 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :60s or 70s < 1088749053 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1088749061 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they HAD chatterbots that far back? < 1088749065 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured 80's earliest.. < 1088749072 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They didn't call it that < 1088749089 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's as surprising as learning that walrus is one of the oldest words in the english language < 1088749092 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1966 < 1088749119 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jerz.setonhill.edu/if/canon/eliza.htm < 1088749179 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic! < 1088749433 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~gxk/courses/g5aiai/002history/eliza.htm < 1088749466 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muahaha < 1088749503 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, yes... a fungish-type language, supports functions and hopefully a lambda operator, but... how should I do that in 2D? < 1088749531 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will you allow a command to copy data from point A to point B? < 1088749562 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1088749576 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can either bring the lambda to the data, or bring the data to the lambda < 1088749704 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I see what you're getting at, but Im not entirely sure... < 1088749817 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, lets say that I have a function denoted at (x,y) and Im right now hanging out at (a,b), what would be the best way to head to (x,y), and having finished my business there, come back? < 1088749935 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you have random access, the problem's solved. Just poke the data at (x,y), and the return location at (x+1,y) or something like that < 1088749989 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language won't have random access so to speak < 1088749999 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1088750024 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So something has to move from (x,y) to (a,b) one cell at a time? < 1088750029 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is, I want the language to support arbitrarily large fields, and I can't have an arbitrary goto command on something that can be larger than the biggest integer the language supports < 1088750062 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a field? < 1088750064 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily one cell at a time - in fact, Im supposing this with the hypothesis that the programmer has no idea where the function itself is located < 1088750075 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a two-dimensional programming 'field' (like in befunge) < 1088750081 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1088750135 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program itself might know where it is - I haven't really fleshed out these particular details yet < 1088750154 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been working on modularity issues, and string conventions < 1088750164 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes another bite of lentil mushroom soup < 1088750230 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is currently enjoying a chocolate chip cookie < 1088750295 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a single datum (a cell, the stack contents, etc.) be arbitrarily big? Because then you could pack the lambda function into a single value, and then unpack it in-place... In fact, I've been wanting to do an esolang sort of like that < 1088750360 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stack contents possibly, but an actual cell is limited to a 8-bit value < 1088750375 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my idea was an esolang where the program had to include code to expand itself into memory, starting from only one cell < 1088750401 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's an option: packing & unpacking the lambda < 1088750461 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be able to think of some way, other than addressing by grid location, of moving data to/from an arbitrary location... making a 'tunnel' of sorts < 1088750477 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats what I was thinking about, having a sort of 'wormhole' function < 1088750507 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you would say "go to function x" and then the program would look up the location of function x, go to it, and at the end, return to where you were to begin with < 1088750553 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1088750581 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you worked out the details? < 1088750629 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all - I've been thinking about using lambda functions like false (http://wouter.fov120.com/false/) except creating a sort of function-writing syntax for making two-dimensional functions < 1088750736 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION says in a Monty Python voice, "I can't read this!" < 1088750777 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1088750796 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the false page... < 1088750836 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its confusing, or you can't go to it? < 1088750844 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's confusing < 1088750871 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like they took all the alphabetic characters out of Perl < 1088750881 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and added eszets < 1088750923 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. yes, the syntax is a bit wonky < 1088750928 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when you' < 1088750937 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're stuck with one-character commands, its easy to get limited < 1088750945 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1088751037 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the 2d function syntax is gonna look interesting < 1088751071 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im sure that it will, but, it's going to hopefully be more readable than befunge < 1088751618 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont know, its not terribly important right now. Im sleepy. Time for bed < 1088751635 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1088751645 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodnight wild halcyon < 1088751653 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night sinker of heat < 1088751654 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good wild halcyon nights < 1088751659 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1088753240 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1088755045 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client terminated by server" < 1088755057 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088755199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1088755200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1088841599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1088841600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1088851457 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088851457 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088851458 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088851458 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088851458 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088851459 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088851460 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088851460 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1088851516 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1088851516 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088851516 0 :Toreun!~Toreun@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088851516 0 :iamcal!~bees@h69-cpe104.insinc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088851516 0 :lament!~lament@S01060050baab2c59.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088851516 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088851516 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088851516 0 :kosmikus|away!~andres@kosmikus.developer.gentoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1088851516 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1088917803 0 :tonsofpcs!~mirx@ool-4351f382.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088917806 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088917809 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088917813 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dah < 1088917814 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1088917827 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1088917836 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1088918429 0 :dbc!ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088922777 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as03-pho-az-205-186-106-227.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088922836 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088924979 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088926287 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1088926449 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1088927999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1088928000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1088930992 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088930993 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1088946987 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1088963964 0 :Coldfingr!~rune@228.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088964529 0 :Coldfingr!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1088988968 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as03-pho-az-205-186-106-189.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088989030 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088995235 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088995242 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does linux run in brainfuck yet? < 1088995338 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. Theoretically, I'm sure it does. < 1088996350 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. < 1088996390 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be possible to modify the interrupt vector table if the bf array were positioned starting at low memory < 1088996441 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure what that would accomplish, since you still couldn't cause interrupts < 1088996506 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way I can think of is a custom bf interpreter that takes i/o and extends the functionaliy.. but then is it still bf? < 1089004426 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1089004426 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1089004438 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can port bochs to bf < 1089004442 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run linux in bochs < 1089004744 0 :dbc!ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089014399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1089014400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089015322 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus < 1089015843 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"you have no chance to survive make your time." < 1089018958 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089018958 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089018958 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089018959 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089018959 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089018961 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089018961 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089019935 0 :dbc!ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089026892 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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JOIN :#esoteric < 1089031932 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089031932 0 :iamcal!~bees@h69-cpe104.insinc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089031932 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089031932 0 :lament!~lament@S01060050baab2c59.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089031932 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089031932 0 :kosmikus!~andres@kosmikus.developer.gentoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1089031932 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1089032148 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089032148 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089032148 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089032148 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089032218 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089032228 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1089032228 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089032228 0 :kosmikus!~andres@kosmikus.developer.gentoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1089032228 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089032228 0 :iamcal!~bees@h69-cpe104.insinc.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089032228 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1089050539 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus|away < 1089056025 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1089058951 0 :calamari!~jeffryjoh@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-23.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089058963 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089059037 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. how goes bfasm or the c compiler? < 1089059044 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see, there's interest!) < 1089059055 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfasm is working and online :) < 1089059123 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the c compiler needs a lot of work.. might actually do a b compiler, as that is a lot more bf compatible < 1089059561 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noticed the esolang email about it. < 1089059630 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1089065612 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ACK! SIGSEGV! < 1089065705 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1089065705 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1089066298 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1089080326 0 :calamari!~jeffryjoh@as11-pho-az-205-186-114-219.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089080333 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089085081 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1089091553 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089097526 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had a song stuck in my head all week < 1089097538 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rape me"? < 1089097562 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that would make a lot of sense... being in Seattle and all, but no < 1089097578 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent guess < 1089097584 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its actually "Hey Ya" < 1089097690 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My baby don't mess around because she loves me so and this I know for shoooooo'" < 1089097719 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes it hard to think really esoterically about constructing 2D lambda functions when you're wondering why love is the exception < 1089097866 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do 2d lambda functions work? < 1089097920 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like regular lambda functions in false - they're pushed onto the stack and executed like normal < 1089097941 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know false :( < 1089097961 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :altthough its creator used to come here for a while < 1089098022 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and never talk) < 1089098524 0 :WildHalcyon_!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089098530 0 :WildHalcyon_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry - got booted < 1089098544 0 :WildHalcyon_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from what I can see lament, a lot of people on here come and don't talk < 1089098583 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1089098586 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's ban them all! < 1089098612 0 :WildHalcyon_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha... hmmm... "you're banned until you say something!" < 1089098705 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night, then! < 1089099048 0 :WildHalcyon_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodnight lament! < 1089099638 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1089100799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1089100800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089102114 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus < 1089103225 0 :WildHalcyon_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1089130462 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus|away < 1089133063 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089133063 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1089133086 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089133086 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1089133099 0 :Taaus_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Taaus < 1089135642 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089135854 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as02-pho-az-205-186-105-106.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089135858 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1089135858 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1089137587 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089140518 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1089143871 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as02-pho-az-205-186-105-147.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089143875 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089143895 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've finally decided what I want the "c" compiler to look like, at least initally < 1089144078 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int, if, else, while, break, do, goto. () [] - ! ~ * / % + - >> << > < >= <= == != && || = (no pointers, only [] arrays) < 1089144087 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be easy to write that < 1089144147 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no dynamic datastructures? < 1089144171 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :malloc would look something like: int mem; malloc(int cells) { mem[1] = mem[0]; mem[0] = mem[0] + bytes; return mem[1]; } < 1089144197 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make linked lists, etc with just [] < 1089144224 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, but they are fixed-size, usually. < 1089144282 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually, but c allows you to go past the end, or even use array syntax on something that isn't an array < 1089144318 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have been int malloc.. oops :) < 1089144369 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the int mem; would need to be the last thing defined < 1089144396 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean your C allows you to use array syntax on something that isn't an array? in traditional c a[b] needs to have either a or be to be a pointer. < 1089144427 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite sure how to handle function variables yet.. they will be pushed and popped, but haven't decided where they go < 1089144469 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mm.. hadn't considered that, you're right, it's a little off there < 1089144475 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and who made the "byte" type signed in java?) < 1089144517 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else is signed in java.. I guess they felt like it had to be < 1089144559 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess so. but now when you get a byte[] of something, if you cast an element of it to int all >0x80 values 0xnn get type-extended to 0xffffffnn. < 1089144575 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, >=0x80. < 1089144654 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is verily uncomfortable. I had a byte[] filled with of unsigned 16-bit integers (little-endian, but that doesn't really matter) and I needed to convert that to an int[] of their values. < 1089144658 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having unsigned types is pretty dumb.. I can't see how it would be that hard to add them < 1089144701 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess I should shut up about java, it's not a proper esoteric language. < 1089144713 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1089144792 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll have the same failing tho, because I don't feel like doing it right now :) < 1089144841 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My problem is getting the initial version done.. once I get that, I'm good.. but if I make it too distant I never finish < 1089144957 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsigned actually scales a lot better than signed < 1089145001 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with signed, you have to know where the negative numbers start.. is it 128, 32768, etc? < 1089145061 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since BF cells can be 8 bit or larger, having everything unsigned seems to make more sense < 1089145087 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least until I care :) < 1089145543 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm. < 1089145947 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I should call it BC.. maybe appropriate? < 1089146031 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow.. afk to get started < 1089151160 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1089151207 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as02-pho-az-205-186-105-147.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089158355 0 :calamari-!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-188.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089159432 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1089162372 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 14400 seconds < 1089168485 0 :calamari-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089180467 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as01-pho-az-205-186-104-68.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089180473 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089184844 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089185606 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089187199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1089187200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089188306 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus < 1089193948 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1089212593 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089212593 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089212594 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089212594 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089213285 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213285 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213285 0 :kosmikus!~andres@kosmikus.developer.gentoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213285 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213285 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1089213505 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213505 0 :clog_!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213505 0 :bear.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+n < 1089213517 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-o clog_ < 1089213517 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213517 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213517 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213517 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213517 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :http://catseye.mine.nu:8080/ -- http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/ || http://www.randelshofer.ch/fhw/gri/holzi.html < 1089213623 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213623 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213623 0 :kosmikus!~andres@kosmikus.developer.gentoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213623 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213623 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1089213695 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Killed by zelazny.freenode.net (Nick collision) < 1089213695 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Killed by zelazny.freenode.net (Nick collision) < 1089213695 0 :clog_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :clog < 1089213704 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089213723 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089213758 0 :kosmikus!~andres@kosmikus.developer.gentoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1089221666 0 :lament!~lament@S01060050baab2c59.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089223204 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089231256 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as01-pho-az-205-186-104-38.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089231264 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1089231275 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek.. bad caps lock setting < 1089231409 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c seems a lot easier to tokenize than basic < 1089231483 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or I'm just getting used to it < 1089231658 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably going to add for and continue.. figured out a way to make them easier to do < 1089231757 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow.. bbl < 1089231763 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089242830 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1089273599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1089273600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089274353 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089274361 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey late-night esoteric people! < 1089274676 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning here < 1089274752 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, where is "here" ? < 1089274764 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK < 1089274775 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that makes it close to around 10 am then, right? < 1089274787 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:20 < 1089274814 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, earlier than I thought < 1089274859 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do you work with esoteric languages much deltab? < 1089274882 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work, no; play, sometimes :-) < 1089274969 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess its hard to "work" with esoteric languages < 1089274995 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im not entirely sure how many people have put down the ability to work with bf on their resume, but I imagine its probably less than 10 < 1089275579 0 :WildHalcyon_!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089276654 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1089279250 0 :WildHalcyon_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1089299043 0 :Keymaker!~Keymaker@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1089299052 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello.. < 1089299081 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehloo. < 1089299095 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089301836 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm,, bye < 1089301838 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1089303202 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus|away < 1089305883 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-231.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089305887 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089306128 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was wrong.. I can't get away with just [].. if I did that, I'd have to make regular variables return their address, which would mean to do a regular variable you'd have y[0]=x[0]+1 .. pretty lame. < 1089306171 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y=x+1 would be like int *y=&x+1 < 1089306186 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1089306193 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I need & < 1089306202 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your assembler is very good. it's now possible to write tcpip in bf. < 1089306221 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtv: lol < 1089306237 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't joking :) < 1089306270 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be ;) < 1089306279 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was small tcpip stack in php and it shouldn't be more than 64k of bf-asm code i think. < 1089306303 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually someone could just rewrite that code in bf-asm < 1089306316 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1089306333 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about the details of tcp/ip < 1089306340 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sics.se/~adam/phpstack/ < 1089306377 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcp/ip is simple if you don't want to get complex about it. < 1089306479 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty neat < 1089306615 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing bfasm is still missing is bit manipulation < 1089306652 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's all kinds of stuff like explicit congestion notification (RFC2884), syncookies, window scaling (RFC1323), Nagle's algorithm and loads of others if you want a funky tcp/ip stack. < 1089306671 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a routine that only requires constant memory regardless of the size of the cells < 1089306744 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long it'll take before we see the first brainf*ck web server that talks something like SLIP into the input/output streams of brainf*ck. < 1089307130 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to have a web server somehow it will need to access a modem or network card. Can standard i/o be redirected in *nix to allow that? < 1089307165 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see this guy just has it going over a serial cable < 1089307173 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, you can do it without any network at all. < 1089307228 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's possible over loopback on any sane unix. < 1089307268 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, i remember there was tap interface. there should be readme or something. < 1089307299 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tap exists on linux or *bsd, do you have any? < 1089307387 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have linux on another partition < 1089307491 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can install *nix on any old 386 machine, work remotely and have a windows as a workstation. < 1089307571 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah.. do you know of any cpu testing programs? < 1089307609 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpu testing? your bf-asm compiling itself? :) < 1089307611 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a system that crashes out when trying to load windows or linux.. works fine in dos < 1089307626 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it's something with protected mode or what < 1089307643 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ran a memory testing program and it found no problems < 1089307659 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it hang or does it print something before death? < 1089307689 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the windows installer it gave various error messages < 1089307713 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most probably it < 1089307720 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux would give some kind of error (with the register dump, etc) < 1089307721 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s broken < 1089307746 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty weird that dos works, though < 1089307750 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow < 1089307754 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or totally incompatible. indeed it's unusable. < 1089307771 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are network drivers for dos < 1089307774 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1089307839 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089307844 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lament < 1089307910 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that stuff from Adam Dunkels works just like a charm in *nix and easy to debug. in dos and windows you will need to do something to terminate such a strange networking. < 1089308286 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in win31 it would be easy with trumpet networking and a null-modem between two com-ports. < 1089308349 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I didn't try installing win3.1.. that's a great idea < 1089308439 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for distracting you from bf-c :) in win3.1 there was three mode afair, and it's possible to avoid protected mode with some config key. < 1089308458 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a command-line flag. < 1089308466 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to disable the "386 Enhanced" mode. < 1089308473 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure about 3.1? I remember 3.0 could do it < 1089308480 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 3.1 too. < 1089308516 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I have a feeling I ran 3.1 on a 386sx/16 with only 1M of memory, and the 386-enhanced mode needs at least 2M to work, so it ran on the non-enhanced mode by default. < 1089308523 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it might've been 3.0 too. < 1089308553 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't run win32s on it in that mode, though. < 1089308602 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think the backported ie5+ms-ppp/slip-dialer needs win32s. trumpet could work. < 1089308635 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trumper with netscape 1.0 is more than needed :) < 1089308635 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have trumpet around here somewhere on an old isp cd < 1089308660 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine was on an isp floppy, and I'd be surprised if it's not un-broken still. < 1089308738 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcpman.exe 119K, netscape.exe 1.2M :) < 1089308770 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if I had netscape during my win3.11 times. < 1089308784 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a version of mosaic on the floppy. < 1089308820 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. I think I discovered the problem < 1089308836 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a bad cpu fan < 1089308850 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least that's the current problem < 1089309329 0 :|Stryder|!~mstilwell@mo-65-41-98-92.dyn.sprint-hsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089309433 0 :|Stryder|!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1089312678 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpu fan changed.. trying knoppix < 1089312874 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1089312881 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pun intended) < 1089312917 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1089313020 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow.. it's still booting.. I don't think knoppix was designed for a 450mhz cpu < 1089313046 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :450MHz is quite a few < 1089313088 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh, kde finally coming up < 1089313111 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. actually not 450.. 333 .. remembered that wrong < 1089313145 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, my email relay thingie works again. now to update some MX records. < 1089313749 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1089314863 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1089316106 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089317239 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Goin' away now!" < 1089319760 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus < 1089324785 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus|away < 1089359999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1089360000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089367937 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus < 1089387682 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus|away < 1089396367 0 :tah!~tah@pD953206D.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089396382 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089396725 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1089396765 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, someone alive. I found this channel from a log on the web while searching for Argh! < 1089396786 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1089396792 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh. < 1089399372 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-111.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089399391 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089399429 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi calamari < 1089399454 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has to leave now, just a short visit before driving home from work (after the rain stops) < 1089399466 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, still rains < 1089399475 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just not as much as before) < 1089399506 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you live? It rained here last night < 1089399510 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(arizona) < 1089399565 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Osnabrueck, Germany < 1089400789 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone interested in a vim script for Argh!? Just completed the last bit with help from the #vim channel < 1089401213 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089401244 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim script or argh? what does it do? < 1089401324 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: It sets some variables and changes cursor movement in replace mode: The cursor stays on the entered character, except for [hjklHJKL] for which it moves in the correct direction < 1089401364 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so it should be useful for befunge as well? :) < 1089401394 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: Maybe, does befunge use hjkl, too? < 1089401458 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it doesn't. i see. < 1089401526 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: But of course this can be changed < 1089401876 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: I sent it to Sascha so he can include it in the next Argh! release < 1089401888 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1089401940 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will leave now, it still rains, but not as much as before < 1089401957 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh! uhm, I mean ... Bye! < 1089401972 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye :) < 1089401978 0 :tah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089415118 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as01-pho-az-205-186-104-95.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089415125 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089416318 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089420922 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1089420974 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089421860 0 :catseye!~weechat@d154-20-76-195.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089428934 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089428934 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089428934 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089428934 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089428934 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089428934 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089428977 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1089428977 0 :catseye!~weechat@d154-20-76-195.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089428977 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089428977 0 :kosmikus|away!~andres@kosmikus.developer.gentoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1089428977 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089428977 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1089428977 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1089432145 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089435055 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-101.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089435059 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089435068 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi squid < 1089435072 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :squid_ < 1089435092 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows it going? < 1089435159 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... no esolang in the pipeline for me now < 1089435164 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up? < 1089435523 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about to work on bfcc's expression parser.. I have it written, kind of (previous version).. so it shouldn't be that bad < 1089435536 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck compiler collectoin? < 1089435549 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf c compiler < 1089435557 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okkk < 1089435560 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1089435585 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did bfasm, so bfcc isn't as hard now < 1089436296 0 :dbc!ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089436386 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089437353 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi dbc < 1089437384 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1089437386 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089438594 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089446399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1089446400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089446837 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1089459803 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1089486871 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089522899 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089532799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1089532800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089534205 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa nelly, its busy in here < 1089534500 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im hungry, be back in a little minute < 1089536010 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089538342 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1089549285 0 :Keymaker!~Keymaker@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1089549293 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyy < 1089552936 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1089554327 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089554336 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for delay, i was away) < 1089557655 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, gotta go :( < 1089557656 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1089582019 0 :WildHalcyon!~wildhal@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089593596 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1089603979 0 :e-kyle!~kyle@CPE00045add4864-CM014260028983.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089604449 0 :e-kyle!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1089605845 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089605937 0 :kosmikus|away!~andres@kosmikus.developer.gentoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1089619199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1089619200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089624345 0 :kosmikus|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus < 1089648526 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1089648527 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1089651591 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Shutting Down < 1089652123 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1089652123 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1089653756 0 :kosmikus!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kosmikus|away < 1089665557 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1089665602 0 :mtve!mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089665917 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-232.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089665922 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1089665959 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been thinking about the c parsing and ran into a difficulty < 1089666032 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing of = is right to left.. i.e. a = b[c] = d is really a = (b[c] = d), not (a = b[c]) = d < 1089666050 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1089666121 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an easy way to deal with that (I'm using something similar to recursive descent, using a stack rather than recursive calls) < 1089666141 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words I'm converting to rpn < 1089666272 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually it's a recursive parser that returns tree of operations. then you build your code by walking the tree. < 1089666292 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but it builds the wrong tree < 1089666302 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's broken then :) < 1089666307 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does (a = b[c]) = d, which is wrong < 1089666334 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to help you with seeing the code (or at least pseudocode). < 1089666336 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it's broken because it assumes everything is left to right < 1089666345 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, this is theoretical < 1089666383 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't written any code yet, still planning < 1089666395 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just know that it will not be right < 1089666444 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best I have come up with is to scan forward and add parenthesis < 1089666484 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that seems like a kludge < 1089666499 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :search for some example code. the good one was kernighan and pike calculator afair. < 1089666528 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubtful that a calculator would involve the situation I'm describing < 1089666580 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since in that case, the correct order is given by the person operating the calculator < 1089666582 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, they use lex. < 1089666603 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That really depends on the complexity of the calculator. < 1089666651 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there is miriad of simple lectures about parsing, and lots of good books online. < 1089666677 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most simple tutorials don't get into associativity of operators < 1089666701 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more complex ones assume use of flex & bison or such < 1089666764 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the calculator is an excellent example here. Exponentiation is a bothersome operation, associativity-wise. < 1089666767 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, adding the parenthesis is the best idea so far, I guess. bummer < 1089666787 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very easy, i guess you just havn't did it before. < 1089666796 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's very easy? < 1089666802 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding the parenthesis? < 1089666811 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsing? :) < 1089666819 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing of left and right associative operators. < 1089666849 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem easy to me < 1089666937 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you can offer the easy solution? < 1089667117 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = b[c = d] = e < 1089667160 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = ( b[c = ( d ) ] = ( e ) ) < 1089667214 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1089667230 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just thinking aloud < 1089667263 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably just go ahead and add parenthesis.. I'll let someone add the "easy" solution later :) < 1089667346 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't entirely related, but it's a nifty way of parsing infix: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.lightweight/285 < 1089667369 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mainly stating it so I can find it more quickly the next time :P < 1089667531 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just untested pseudocode: < 1089667538 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :void read_lvl1(void) { read_lvl2(); if(token=='=') { eat_token(); read_lvl1(); op(PUSH POP=POP); } } // level 1 is right associative < 1089667538 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :void read_lvl2(void) { read_lvl3(); while(token=='+') { eat_token(); read_lvl3(); op(PUSH POP+POP); } } // level 2 is left associative < 1089667618 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/level/precedence/ < 1089668074 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language are you writing the compiler in? < 1089668186 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1089668193 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I won't be using recursive calls < 1089668212 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to preach, but why C? < 1089668229 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I can compile the compiler < 1089668250 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What for? < 1089668256 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, to BF: < 1089668258 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1089668259 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1089668634 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I should do is stop trying to make this non-recursive thing work.. write it recursive then rescue it from recursion later < 1089668649 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I can use BNF < 1089668898 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: btw, thanks.. why does if make it right and while make it left? < 1089668926 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1089668928 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note also read_lvl1 is self recursive < 1089668935 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah just noticed that < 1089668977 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :code looks pretty natural to me. same way as human parses such a code. < 1089668991 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a grammar i mean. < 1089669035 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taaus' link is interesting too. < 1089669074 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think I came up with a way to simulate private variables .. then I can use recursion < 1089669085 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it allows excellent things like changing operators and meaning of language on-the-fly while parsing. < 1089669127 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be nifty.. because I'll want to change a[b] to *(&a+b) < 1089669137 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion can always be rewritten with static variables (basically the same way underlying processor works with memory) < 1089669170 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I did that when working on the bf golf set problem < 1089669200 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used a memory array to simulate the recursion < 1089669239 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since all my variables are global, I didn't want to use recursion, but I think I can get around it < 1089669248 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion is harder for computers, its purpose is only to make life easier for a human :) < 1089671284 0 :calamari-!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-232.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089671291 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1089671441 0 :calamari!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-232.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089671441 0 :calamari-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1089671813 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :storm coming in.. gotta go < 1089671825 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for your help and ideas < 1089671828 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089680795 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bear.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1089680934 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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< 1089943470 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1089957714 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1089964536 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1089964799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1089964800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1089966162 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1089966180 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1089979228 0 :Keymaker!~Keymaker@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1089979234 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heu < 1089979236 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hey < 1089979472 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oy. < 1089979486 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie must go eat lunkch. away for a while now. < 1089979497 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1089981913 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leaving the House Of Idle. < 1089981915 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1089998159 0 :Toreun!cbzik@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090000177 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1090040478 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090040478 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1090043052 0 :Toreun!~Toreun@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090050946 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1090051199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090051200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090084256 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as01-pho-az-205-186-104-213.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090085152 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090099895 0 :Toreun!gyonaj@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090100490 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1090101416 0 :tonsofpcs!~mirx@ool-4351f382.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090101419 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1090101468 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oy. < 1090101483 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vey < 1090101510 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the black knight moves for no man. < 1090101785 0 :Lord_AnthraX!~none@ool-4350e7fe.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090102039 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the black knight always triumphs, you know. < 1090102146 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1090102151 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right then < 1090102170 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1090102180 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tons you know me? < 1090102208 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, why would i? < 1090102243 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1090102244 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do < 1090102247 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i know you < 1090102264 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see what the dice say < 1090102273 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastard < 1090102314 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dice say i might < 1090102323 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it < 1090102330 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the magic 8-ball say? < 1090102330 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a twenty sided? < 1090102386 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REPLY HAZY: TRY AGAIN < 1090102387 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya, d20 < 1090102392 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :says the magic 8-ball. < 1090102400 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1090102409 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck the 8-ball < 1090102412 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the d20 is god < 1090102423 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1090102424 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the d20 is quite spherical too. < 1090102426 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the d1000 is god < 1090102429 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1090102450 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now now, no die is sphereical < 1090102467 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a d100 is pretty much spherical. a d1000 I haven't yet seen. < 1090102472 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo < 1090102478 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d100 is no where nere spherical < 1090102478 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a project < 1090102481 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a golf ball < 1090102483 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta start work on it onw < 1090102484 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1090102486 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1090102491 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, a d300 is a golf bar < 1090102493 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ball < 1090102501 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've counted the dimples? < 1090102506 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1090102508 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone told me < 1090102517 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't count < 1090102519 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :start counting < 1090102530 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you think of geometric shapes that spring to mind when you say "golf ball", I'm quite sure many would say "uh.. sphere?" < 1090102537 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1090102541 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a golf ball is a die < 1090102550 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a golf ball is an object with dimples < 1090102566 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a d100 has a sphere inside usually < 1090102583 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ball is a ball is a ball. and besides, what good is a die if it doesn't have sharp corners you can step on, like a d4. < 1090102595 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dn is spherical if n is the result of the limit of x to infinity of x < 1090102607 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a d5 or a d7? < 1090102610 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are sharp too < 1090102619 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1090102628 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the way fizzie thinks < 1090102629 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, they are < 1090102659 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :roll a d% < 1090102665 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1090102732 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like a small, dice-size klein bottle I could throw. at least with a d1 you can be relatively certain what the outcome will be. < 1090102741 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1090102792 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just throw a perfect sphere. That's a d1 too. Or get a coin with two heads (or tails). < 1090102824 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1090102834 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a perfect coin is a weighted d3 < 1090102840 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1090102844 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its true < 1090102850 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know any good laser disc's? < 1090102854 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1090102860 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fraggle rock on laser disc < 1090102862 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1090102882 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :throwing a sphere sounds relatively boring when you could be throwing stranger topological things like a klein bottle around. < 1090102938 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't have a shpere. < 1090102979 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie - think bouncy ball < 1090103007 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no bouncy ball. < 1090103028 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Lord_AnthraX_Awa < 1090103030 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only sphere here is my mirror ball thingie, and it gets.. er, deconstructed, if I mishandle it. < 1090103031 0 :Lord_AnthraX_Awa!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1090103093 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't have glue to fix it with. < 1090103403 0 :Lord_AnthraX_Awa!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Lord_AnthraX < 1090103404 0 :Lord_AnthraX!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1090103458 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, pretty strange, actually, that I completely lack a sphere. I only found a torus. < 1090103626 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have... A magic 8-ball. But it isn't entirely spherical. < 1090103667 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what a super-egg counts as... A weighted d3, probably. < 1090103840 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a.. thing. it could be considered spherical, but it's not exactly solid, it's.. eh, hard to describe. it has a core and then ~5cm long (coloured) pieces of rubber band sticking outside away from the core, so the rest shape of it is a sphere, sorta. < 1090103882 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably not explaining this very well, but I lack my digital photography device so I can't elaborate easily. < 1090103916 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rubber band? Is it some sort of tensegrity sculpture? < 1090104152 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nno, more like a stress relief toy. < 1090104167 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it relieve stress? :) < 1090104172 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rubber band "hair" is quite dense/thick. < 1090104187 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can throw and catch it. < 1090104203 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! I know what it is then. < 1090104204 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to have few loops in there too, but those are now broken. < 1090104230 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, that is, I've seen it before... I can't begin to describe its function, though. < 1090104253 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure about the stress relief thing, but "stressipallo" (literal translation: "stress ball" (er, probably guessable)) is what I've always called it. < 1090104301 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had a brand name too, but I've forgotten it. < 1090104326 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once again google helped me! http://www.geriatric-resources.com/assets/images/Koosh.JPG < 1090104357 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is differently coloured, and perhaps a bit bigger. (or maybe not. hard to estimate scale in that pic.) < 1090104377 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :supposedly those make great toys for people tripping on LSD < 1090104380 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The famous rubbery porcupine ball. Soft, safe and fun!" < 1090104399 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Safe!? SAFE!?? < 1090104411 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could put someone's eye out with that... < 1090104422 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you could < 1090104426 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you tried really, really hard < 1090104426 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know. despite repeated queries, our student union people have only installed the soft-drink and candy vending machines, not drugs. < 1090104443 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're so inclined, you can probably put someone's eye out with most things. < 1090104458 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but koosh balls would be near the bottom of the list < 1090104487 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you'll shoot your eye out, kid" < 1090104493 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right next to cotton candy and porridge < 1090104707 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :koosh balls are fun :) < 1090104740 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a sphere only in a vague sort of way. < 1090104744 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are over-sized bb guns/rifles from movies :-p < 1090104752 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, its not a sphere, its a koosh ball < 1090104768 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a pile of em somewhere < 1090104813 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have only this one. < 1090104813 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess if you count the number of triangles made by 3 adjacent 'pins' or bands, you would be able to tell how many 'sides' it has < 1090104835 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to determine how it landed since the spikes aren't rigid. < 1090104854 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top should always have a flat-most triangle < 1090104865 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm. < 1090104930 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I used to have a frisbee-like thing, only it was just a ring, not a disc, with a somewhat elastic outer edge, and then ~6cm of fabric inside the outer edge, but that broke. I believe it was called "whoosh" or "woosh" or something like that. < 1090104938 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got one of those < 1090104948 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya, the same company made them i think < 1090104955 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i have one that doesn't have the fabric, it flys better < 1090104965 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its hard, and will break windows easily < 1090105255 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to see if I can find my koosh ball. < 1090105367 0 :mooz-!~root@cs182082.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090105378 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was under a pile of stuff, therefore it's a bit clumpy now. < 1090105482 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should apologise to it. < 1090105963 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1090105978 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit messy-looking now. < 1090105982 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much like I. < 1090106508 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1090106546 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some rather ambiguous choices when determining which is the "top" side of a thrown koosh ball. < 1090106611 0 :Toreun!~Toreun@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090108250 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :booo < 1090108481 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I is tired and may fall asleep at any moment. < 1090108770 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can wake you up < 1090108780 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you give me an account on your box, with access to /dev/dsp < 1090115318 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: what is /dev/dsp? < 1090115370 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonsofpcs: the speaker < 1090118307 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o, ok < 1090118343 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats just the pc speaker connector, or the default soundcard bus? < 1090118486 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter < 1090121917 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-132.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090121919 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.terranova.net/content/images/mp3police.jpg < 1090121926 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1090121960 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari < 1090122155 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tonsofpcs < 1090123330 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1090123331 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090126891 0 :tonsofpcs!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1090137599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090137600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090177909 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1090196318 0 :Keymaker!~Keymaker@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090196318 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1090202211 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gallery.origami.free.fr/Auteurs/Japan/kawasaki/photos/bouquet/bouquet2max.jpg < 1090212522 0 :freakabcd!~freakabcd@202-6-75-65.safenz.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1090212905 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as01-pho-az-205-186-104-19.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090212931 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1090212954 0 :freakabcd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari_ < 1090212965 0 :freakabcd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its quiet as usual here :) < 1090220995 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090221779 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aeou < 1090223860 0 :freakabcd!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090223999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090224000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090260186 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as03-pho-az-205-186-106-14.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090260571 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1090261070 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1090261074 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning. < 1090261280 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lament, how's t going? < 1090261286 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even :) < 1090261323 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowly, painfully and in the wrong direction. < 1090261433 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was lament doing to t? < 1090261496 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to t? < 1090261613 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how's t going"? < 1090261650 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1090261654 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even notice that :( < 1090261782 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh right. < 1090261787 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice the correction. < 1090261800 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought you were doing some hacking related to T. < 1090261850 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't; perhaps I should? < 1090262163 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, well. if you like? I don't know. < 1090264261 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090288203 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1090296490 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-81.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090299617 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090303718 0 :calamari-!JeffryJohn@as02-pho-az-205-186-105-120.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090304997 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1090308701 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090310399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090310400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090310849 0 :calamari-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090312247 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090316138 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1090325174 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090347942 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-114.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090349884 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090350431 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnfff. < 1090350435 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :our internet keeps breaking. < 1090350770 0 :magnus--!~magnus@magnuslulu.campus.luth.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1090361621 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as02-pho-az-205-186-105-89.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090362078 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was noticing that conditional statements can be somewhat simulated using integer division < 1090362090 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't figured out all the details yet < 1090362112 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you were wondering about my #math question :) < 1090365752 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1090385503 0 :heatsink_!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090385574 0 :heatsink_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :heatsink < 1090393211 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090396799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090396800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090441577 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@dialup-4.240.108.184.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090441582 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI < 1090441611 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :figured out the conditional thing somewhat < 1090441666 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming integers >= 0, if A=0 then B=6 else B=0 < 1090441667 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : can be rewritten B = ((A + 2) \ (A + 1) - 1) * 6 < 1090442124 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBL < 1090442127 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090475596 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1090475602 0 :Taaus!~T@cpe.atm0-0-0-196156.0x3ef21ebe.boanxx5.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1090476455 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090483199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090483200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090485120 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090498700 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1090499074 0 :fizzie!fis@sesefras.tky.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090519283 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahblahblah < 1090521156 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@dialup-4.240.111.251.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090526267 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090532262 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@dialup-4.240.111.99.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090535802 0 :Keymaker!~Keymaker@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090535810 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1090535858 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoon :) < 1090535862 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1090536106 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, judging by the logs i haven't missed anything wonderful on these days i haven't visited.. < 1090537084 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1090537103 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the conversation, thinly spread over days and weeks, consists mostly of calamari_ saying "hi" < 1090537158 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1090537160 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1090537911 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1090541708 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ACK! SIGSEGV! < 1090543314 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1090543322 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@dialup-4.240.111.99.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090543389 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rrrrr < 1090545302 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1090545302 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1090545984 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1090546845 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, i'll go (3:39 am).. < 1090546847 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1090569599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090569600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090593754 0 :magnus--!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1090643441 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090650441 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090655999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090656000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090679064 0 :nd_!~nd@felinemenace.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1090679141 0 :nd_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1090679154 0 :nd_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1090679208 0 :nd_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1090697086 0 :Keymaker!~no@fh245.netikka.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090697094 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evening < 1090697143 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grh, gotta go :) < 1090697144 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1090732544 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090742399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090742400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090745074 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090766003 0 :Keymaker!~no@fh245.netikka.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090766009 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1090768033 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silent hello is always assumed, in case you wait for reply :) < 1090768040 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1090769155 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, in irc pronunciation the 'hello' is silent. < 1090769162 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll just say: . < 1090771152 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1090771178 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night, this made me sleepy (who cares it's 18:00...) < 1090771185 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1090800644 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@dialup-4.240.108.123.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090800649 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1090809452 0 :Toreun!~Toreun@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090809964 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1090813795 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090828799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090828800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090832180 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090833487 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client terminated by server" < 1090833500 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1090862502 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1090873449 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1090873647 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1090876996 0 :Keymaker!~no@fh245.netikka.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090877006 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmhmmhmmm hey < 1090877107 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ey. < 1090877312 0 :K!~no@fh245.netikka.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1090877312 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1090877318 0 :K!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Keymaker < 1090877326 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr computer crash < 1090877338 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computars often is borken. < 1090877349 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1090878257 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone doing anything cool? < 1090878313 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me at least am not. < 1090878321 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1090878345 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad i'm bot either < 1090878356 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not < 1090878371 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _should_ be fixing this symbianized pitch detection stuff for tomorrow since my vacation starts the day after tomorrow, but my eyes the hurt are. < 1090878390 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1090878400 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you're going to do on the vacation? < 1090878414 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stay on computer and program? ;) < 1090878436 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I _would_, but mother has her 50th birthday, she asked me to go to prague with her for a week. < 1090878447 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there's assembly04 next weekend. < 1090878453 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1090878461 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :going there? < 1090878468 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I have to. < 1090878478 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad luc :( < 1090878481 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*luck < 1090878492 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm. well, there are few interesting people to meet there usually. < 1090878502 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1090878512 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't ever been there < 1090878575 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't missed that much. mostly it's just an excuse to stay awake few days and then revel in the fuzziness of the saturday-sunday part. < 1090878589 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1090878623 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate quake(s), counter-strike and half-life, and i couldn't go anything nice to demo scene either.. < 1090878681 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*go = do < 1090878712 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fury.com/images/weblog/google_circa_1960.jpg < 1090878733 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was supposed to write a symbianos z80-device emulator so that a friend could participate in the 'mobile demo' category, since they've banned calculators now. < 1090878746 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1090878778 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1090878802 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seems I ran out of time. < 1090878806 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1090878813 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where I could find a terminal. < 1090878858 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took a nice vt510 to asm2001, and it worked just fine, but, er, it, uh, well.. caught fire somewhere during year 2002. < 1090878870 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1090878877 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should've cleaned all the dust inside it. < 1090878885 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1090878913 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to ask, i didn't know there was possible to use calculators also in that demo scene < 1090878920 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of things was made with them? < 1090878926 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, well.. < 1090878938 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing too fancy, I'm afraid. but the ti86 is a neat platform. < 1090878946 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1090878986 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 128x64 black-and-white lcd (so slow that you can do greyscale-by-flicker) and a.. was it a 6MHz z80? < 1090878990 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't recall. < 1090879010 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003 mobile demo compo winner was a ti-86 production by this friend of mine. < 1090879065 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1090879080 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice < 1090879090 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=10525 < 1090879204 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice looking stuff there < 1090879301 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it featured sound, which is quite nice from a system without any hardware support for sound. :p < 1090879314 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1090879319 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how that was done? < 1090879360 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a "link port" for data transfer. < 1090879371 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1090879377 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do a constant-amplitude square wave by twiddling the state. < 1090879394 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1090879497 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should try to program something nice to my ti-86 < 1090879516 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though, first i should probably know some assembler) < 1090879517 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a nice befunge interpreter for ti-86. < 1090879538 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, i've noticed that somewhere but of course not tried < 1090879539 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the z80 instruction set at least marginally makes sense. < 1090879555 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1090879575 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even small enough for a human to be able to somewhat remember most of it, unlike x86. < 1090879590 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1090879689 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the befunge interpreter is somewhere at quux.befunge.org and you can blame mooz for it. < 1090879705 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1090880143 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found a floppy from my first isp :) < 1090880148 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1090880154 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dated 1994. < 1090880156 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1090880170 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it's been ten years already. where does the time go? < 1090880180 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno.. :\ < 1090880195 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fast it goes anyway. < 1090880208 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc i visited the internet first time that year < 1090880215 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not home though < 1090880249 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet has probably changed a lot from those times.. < 1090880259 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :filled with spam and ads now :( < 1090880280 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm. < 1090880335 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I telnet'd to freenet and had my first IRC experience pretty soon after we got 'personal eunet' at home. and since I'm 21 now, I think after a year I can say I've irc'd (wasted?) half of my life. < 1090880343 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably not good. < 1090880356 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :) < 1090880406 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this irc is afterall very good idea, though i don't spend much time in it and started to use it ~year ago :\ < 1090880467 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't say 'good idea' if you saw the people I.. "discuss" with, here. :p < 1090880515 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1090880643 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but well, i think i'll hit the bed now (to sleep) < 1090880655 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been nice to chat a bit < 1090880661 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1090880677 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1090880774 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bught. < 1090880783 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's a typoed 'night'.) < 1090881199 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you meant "people" you "discuss" with < 1090881296 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1090915199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1090915200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1090946951 0 :SaMyTa!~ilove_pot@218-216-90.adsl.terra.cl JOIN :#esoteric < 1090946986 0 :SaMyTa!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1090957974 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@dialup-4.240.108.100.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090959990 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090966075 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@dialup-4.240.111.224.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090967774 0 :Toreun!~Toreun@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090968373 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Toreun < 1090968379 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari_ < 1090968433 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you? < 1090968442 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, you? < 1090968446 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, alright. < 1090968721 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you familiar with the game of nomic at all? < 1090968774 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am :) < 1090968779 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am < 1090968810 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably the most often abandoned game ever, though. < 1090968823 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it is, I'm sure < 1090968824 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't played it; but apparently it just isn't fun to play. < 1090968825 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except Agora < 1090968826 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not true. Just look at the blognomic crowd. < 1090968834 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually a lot of fun < 1090968837 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in my opinion < 1090968843 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once the novelty wears off, the games always get abandoned < 1090968852 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least all the ones i've ever seen on the net < 1090968864 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most games do get abandoned - probably because of the difficulty of maintaining them, I would think < 1090968874 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out http://blognomic.blogspot.com < 1090968895 0 :Taaus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've done at least ten games. < 1090968922 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :freaks. < 1090968946 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say the key for a fun game of nomic is finding a game that has the same sort of mindset that you want in a game < 1090968980 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basic nomic is just too weird and complicated, anyway. < 1090968991 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there're variations with two or so starting rules. < 1090969002 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one. < 1090969010 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each game generally has a different starting ruleset < 1090969039 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I've been thinking about for awhile is making a formalized nomic < 1090969053 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was theorized in an AgoraNomic Thesis awhile back < 1090969054 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :euhm < 1090969057 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't work! < 1090969061 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would < 1090969065 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1090969084 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i guess it would < 1090969088 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure - you can't obviously have things in plaintext english < 1090969091 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing-complete rules < 1090969100 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would, but to a point < 1090969117 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be easiest if you had a pseudo-code like low level rules system < 1090969123 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, where everything is an object < 1090969130 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and signals are sent between objects < 1090969140 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rules just test for conditions and send signals < 1090969149 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here i was thinking that nomic can't possibly be less fun! < 1090969155 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1090969173 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I would want to do this just to prove it could be done < 1090969284 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this implementation would be all that much fun, myself. I tried making up a starting ruleset, and it was tedious. < 1090969314 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even making a simple voting system must be elaborately and explicitly described < 1090969374 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1090969423 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pros to this would be good though - no need for judgements and whatnot < 1090969441 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's very easy to maintain < 1090969442 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sacrificing the fun is not an option. < 1090969520 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it wasn't fun to begin with? < 1090969539 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*g* < 1090970681 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1090976670 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Broken pipe < 1090976684 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1090976725 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1090977015 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1090977091 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1090978455 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1090994503 0 :heatsink!cirodrig@c-67-161-51-181.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1090997135 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :http://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/titleOfTheStory.html < 1091001400 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1091001599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1091001600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1091005049 0 :heatsink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1091005932 0 :deltab!~deltab@espians.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1091057651 0 :Toreun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/" < 1091087999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1091088000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1091106291 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ACK! 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