Esolang talk:Wiki dumps

Privacy issues?
The dump contains the complete preferences and the email address of every user. I hope this isn't a privacy issue for anyone.

Also, it contains all the hashed passwords. I hope MediaWiki is using a secure hash and no one's password is crackable. --Graue 03:43, 1 Jul 2005 (GMT)


 * It's not a privacy issue for me, but it is kind of disappointing. Perhaps someday there will be a wiki interchange format (some sort of XML DTD ish thingy no doubt) and MediaWiki will be able to export (only) its content to it.  That would also make it easier to switch the software being used.  But (optimistically speaking) that's only a matter of time, and I can certainly live with it for now. --Chris Pressey 18:26, 1 Jul 2005 (GMT)


 * The tables containing user-related data are no longer being dumped, so this should be a solved problem. --Graue 20:17, 1 Jul 2005 (GMT)


 * On my site I have dumps available that's older than 1 Jul, and therefore contains user data. Should remove these? --Rune 00:10, 27 Aug 2005 (GMT)


 * Preferably, yes. Nothing that wasn't a copyright violation was deleted before then, anyway. --Graue 04:15, 27 Aug 2005 (GMT)


 * OK, I've turned off public read access to those dumps. --Rune 16:31, 27 Aug 2005 (GMT)

What about dumps from the source code and mirrored webpages here: http://www.esolangs.org/files/ --Aardwolf 09:13, 27 Aug 2005 (GMT)

Cannot edit this page
It gives me a Precondition Failed, precondition false error --Calamari 20:11, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Weird. I get that error too. And I edited that page just earlier today. Makes me suspect that my previous edit may have caused a problem in some way. --Rune 20:35, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I managed to edit it by just editing the Mirrors section, and not the entire page. Strange bug... --Rune 20:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed. The spam filter doesn't like the word 'wget' for some reason; it seems to work when not surrounded by spaces (as in this comment), or when entities are used to encode it (I replaced the e with &amp;#101;, for instance), though. --ais523 19:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Please add this to the page
Anyhow.. I don't feel like waiting around for this to be fixed.. so here is what I wanted to add to the page:


 * http://kidsquid.com/esowiki/ by Jeffry Johnston. Mirrored daily. Please contact me if this appears to go down, rather than removing it from this page.  I have never stopped the mirroring, it just became inaccessible and nobody bothered to tell me!

I think it was rather insulting that my database dump mirror was removed from the page (I assume it was inaccessible for a while?) and nobody even contacted me about the downtime. Why didn't anyone contact me about it? That should have been the first thing to do before removing the content. The page was being mirrored the entire time, it was just a minor bug that was preventing access. The other thing I can think of is that my mirroring is not needed or appreciated. If that is the case, let me know. --Calamari 20:16, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Your mirroring is appreciated; I just checked it to make sure it was still working, and it still is. (I think we should ensure to have at least two working sets of backups at all times; I download backups every now and then, but not regularly.) --ais523 16:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Currently out of order?
Does this render not a dump at all? — Smjg (talk) 13:57, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That dump is on Graue's server, esoteric.voxelperfect.net (which is now completely independent of esolangs.org and, therefore, this wiki), and is the final database dump made before the move to this server. So it's a valid dump, but doesn't have changes from the 18th onwards. I'll set up a regular backup on the new server soon, although it will probably be in XML dump format rather than scrubbed SQL. (Rationale: Many of the SQL tables are easy to regenerate and therefore redundant, and stripping user information is more ad-hoc than I'd like; additionally, restoring these incomplete SQL backups can be fairly painful, especially if they were generated from an earlier version of MediaWiki. The XML dump format, on the other hand, is well-defined and only includes the necessary page/revision information, as well as being widely-supported (since it's the main format all Wikimedia wikis use for their dumps).) —ehird 14:09, 22 February 2012 (UTC)