< 1601769954 415045 :Arcorann_!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1601774732 658008 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0705AB1E14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77806&oldid=77796 5* 03TwilightSparkle 5* (+82) 10/* 2sable */ > 1601774961 293887 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:SCREAMCODE14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=77807 5* 03TwilightSparkle 5* (+227) 10Created page with "We already had enough of these trivial BF derivatives. When you get bored, please at least do something creative, please! ~~~~" > 1601777092 828143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ecstatic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77808&oldid=67121 5* 03B jonas 5* (+54) 10/* Syntax */ > 1601777419 9281 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Unary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77809&oldid=75557 5* 03B jonas 5* (+14) 10/* See also */ > 1601777783 540845 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Unary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77810&oldid=77809 5* 03B jonas 5* (+3) 10/* See also */ > 1601778405 988077 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Trivial brainfuck substitution14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77811&oldid=69323 5* 03B jonas 5* (+616) 10show just how many of these are on the wiki < 1601778685 405476 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1601778692 866677 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1601783570 380988 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when I bought four 4TB hard disks with the new machine, planning to have two internal and two that I occasionally plug in to make backups on and swap them so one is off-site all the time, I knew that some of the HDD manufacturers don't tell which of their drives is secretly shingled. < 1601783659 387817 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is obviously bad, because customers could choose the right HD for the right purpose if they knew which ones are which, eg. I'd buy two non-shingled ones as internal and two shingled ones for the backups; and operating systems could optimize use of shingled drives much better than in the current situation when the firmware just doesn't tell anything about what it's doing and all the OS can do is < 1601783665 373941 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that the drive won't lock up for an hour rearranging data. < 1601783718 681440 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I specifically bought three different types of 4TB drives, from the three different manufacturers. and yes, I admit I bought two of the cheapest of the three types, but still. < 1601783803 874140 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it turns out that of the four drives that I have bought, Seagate Barracuda ST4000DM004 is definitely shingled, the two Toshiba HDWD240UZSVA P300 are definitely shingled, and Western Digital WD40EZAZ is either not shingled or WD "forgot" to admit because the sysadmins couldn't prove that it's shingled yet < 1601783931 670444 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even not buying two of the cheapest wouldn't have saved me, because the Seagate would have been my second choice for what I'd buy twice (it costs only slightly more than the WD and the main drive in my old computer is WD) < 1601783999 297204 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when I choose to buy the next hard disk, I'll still only have the choice of buying a years old model, of which sysadmins would have discovered if it was shingled, or buying a new model that may be fake shingled. < 1601784057 118888 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I hope this will only keep up for a few years, after which hardware manufacturers will go on to another trick because this no longer works. < 1601785019 115845 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1601792004 800800 :aaaaaa!~ArthurStr@host-91-90-11-13.soborka.net QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1601797422 655657 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0705AB1E14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77812&oldid=77806 5* 03SunnyMoon 5* (+4) 10The "citation needed" mark is normally italics on Wikipedia. < 1601797643 637076 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1601797680 766299 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0705AB1E14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77813&oldid=77812 5* 03SunnyMoon 5* (+32) 10Does it make sense? > 1601798738 302504 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SCREAMCODE14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77814&oldid=77778 5* 03SunnyMoon 5* (-8) 10Please, use swear words only when it is needed. < 1601798927 950152 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1601799083 865913 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1601800921 198127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Blub14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77815&oldid=53853 5* 03SunnyMoon 5* (+0) 10It should be capital. (Modified with ///) < 1601801564 686166 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :really. removing a curse word. < 1601801574 499279 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't contribute but we're adults. < 1601801900 564337 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can say fuck on the internet. < 1601803676 269608 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1601803740 825686 :ATMunn_!ATMunn@gateway/shell/hellomouse/x-hnucswwkmduqmwbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1601803865 258894 :ATMunn!ATMunn@gateway/shell/hellomouse/x-gvfwvshntysrjsbr JOIN :#esoteric < 1601803867 267641 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1601804036 168285 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1601804069 399383 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:cde6:cad5:83cd:14fe JOIN :#esoteric < 1601804103 946934 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric > 1601804745 425113 PRIVMSG #esoteric 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:kspalaiologos!~palaiolog@176.221.123.97 JOIN :#esoteric > 1601811416 555089 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:CMinusMinus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77817&oldid=72049 5* 03CMinusMinus 5* (+0) 10 < 1601814326 518995 :j-bot!~jbot@hagall.firefly.nu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1601814341 90566 :j-bot!~jbot@hagall.firefly.nu JOIN :#esoteric < 1601814740 853311 :kspalaiologos!~palaiolog@176.221.123.97 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1601814905 89809 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1601814922 876848 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1601820357 280737 :Arcorann_!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1601821611 398350 :laerling!~laerling@static.235.77.203.116.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1601821675 19817 :laerling!~laerling@static.235.77.203.116.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Changing host < 1601821675 19877 :laerling!~laerling@unaffiliated/laerling JOIN :#esoteric < 1601822216 881217 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:cde6:cad5:83cd:14fe QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1601824271 868208 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.204.164 JOIN :#esoteric > 1601824379 902916 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Sabdt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77818&oldid=77648 5* 03Aspwil 5* (-15) 10/* Positive integers addition */ > 1601825041 578392 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Modulous14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77819&oldid=77599 5* 03Abyxlrz 5* (+9) 10 < 1601825595 347520 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1601827442 206391 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric > 1601827839 192355 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Sabdt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77820&oldid=77818 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+998) 10 > 1601828500 69679 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Sabdt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77821&oldid=77820 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+524) 10 < 1601829013 936370 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.204.164 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1601829269 981259 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.204.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1601831153 65908 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric > 1601832702 466921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Sabdt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77822&oldid=77821 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+1731) 10/* Libraries */ > 1601834207 412897 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Winkula 5* 10New user account > 1601834451 466506 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77823&oldid=77798 5* 03Winkula 5* (+201) 10winkula introduces himself > 1601834581 75752 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BIT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77824&oldid=30442 5* 03Winkula 5* (+80) 10added link to unofficial BIT interpreter > 1601834612 64345 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77825&oldid=77272 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+127) 10 < 1601836312 152026 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1601836424 876474 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1601838149 944146 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1601838155 492770 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1601838178 935998 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1601838695 471528 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1601840827 11601 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1601840966 714690 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1601842313 201811 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric > 1601846497 612087 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CogitoErgoCode 5* 10New user account < 1601847699 63433 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1601850402 581370 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1601850423 897629 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1601850640 857727 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1601850807 985051 :Arcorann_!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1601852000 410763 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”