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Langauge is now ready for usage < 1600412559 739418 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:ced:770a:c209:e12b JOIN :#esoteric > 1600412721 597765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IBC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77563&oldid=75185 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+187) 10Added my Plans > 1600413021 513449 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77564&oldid=77562 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+71) 10 < 1600416573 355205 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1600416703 822833 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600417206 498403 :adminn!~admin@unaffiliated/zeroed JOIN :#esoteric < 1600417353 726630 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1600417818 197955 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1600417855 304593 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1600418508 312296 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1600419176 96973 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-yvvotcryrajnshvw QUIT :Quit: killed < 1600419181 743712 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-utpbmjedngohaads QUIT :Quit: killed < 1600419187 166388 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nvshegazwcilpltb QUIT :Quit: killed < 1600419217 483321 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...they killed the matrix... < 1600419228 118011 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: deja vu? < 1600419235 963338 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:ced:770a:c209:e12b QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600419252 855994 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I guess I exhausted my quota. < 1600419262 433565 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1600419262 540203 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck* ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube < 1600419303 426270 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You people are DoSing me by not talking to fungot ;-) < 1600419411 815016 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I didn't know you had a quota. < 1600419411 960610 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: what a surprise, you are dragging your schizophrenic hopping around like a rag of souls begins. the reckoning. this affects a belt of meteors, called the medium in which the cards present some convenience. < 1600419439 963745 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... yes. I suppose I deserved that. < 1600419459 344847 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: It stops replying to the same person after 5 messages. < 1600419484 505553 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Heya, long time no seen. < 1600419484 630052 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: to the left is that house shape you've seen everything! s)(e will be gone soon future i that wwould be there in her final moment. but then it is probably you! that would have been a great point for a transition. you wonder what it does? < 1600419544 42034 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Even when those 5 messages are spread out over hours or days :) < 1600419609 469621 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. cabal-install 3.4 will remove sandboxes. I guess I really have to figure out how to live without those soonish :-/ < 1600419621 133189 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate progress. :P < 1600420697 607828 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qvjtfkbxwjsjoqqu JOIN :#esoteric < 1600420759 462875 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qvjtfkbxwjsjoqqu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1600420800 257309 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tfw the code review is full of spaghetti but you don't want to say anything because you don't want to get dragged into an unending nightmare discussion that will break your brain so you just click "approve" < 1600420851 129382 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1600421018 243299 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a happier note, i'm trying to use cabal for the first time in a project (i have been using my hand-rolled luddite hugs-supporting scripts until now) < 1600421038 315719 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be using the "v2" commands I guess < 1600421043 821914 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should also be using Text instead of String < 1600421059 268404 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :old habits die hard < 1600421190 119717 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xhwcudtxxaisaujr JOIN :#esoteric < 1600421246 533578 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're learning cabal-install, yes, you should definitely learn the v2 commands (which are already the default in cabal-install 3.2, I think?). < 1600421328 506349 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing is harder... I have a working mental model for the old commands :/ < 1600421364 340563 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and, also importantly, I have no problem with the old commands that needs solving) < 1600421410 951022 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So my only motivation to switch is... that the old commands will be removed. < 1600421541 678731 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The version of cabal-install that is provided by Ubuntu 18.04 seems to be... 1.24.0.2. Which sounds old. Which is pretty typical for Ubuntu packages actually. < 1600421570 735630 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll figure out how to install a bleeding edge version soon. < 1600421596 822102 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least a badly bruised edge. < 1600421619 923728 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.24.0.2... < 1600421623 602817 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1600421632 179893 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that brings back memories ;) < 1600421773 983331 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, 2.0.0.0 was released 2017-08-07... feels like ages ago. < 1600421807 503054 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's some excuse for an April 2018 distribution to stick to an earlier version. < 1600422784 922597 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cabal: This version of 'cabal-install' does not support the 'uninstall' operation. It will likely be implemented at some point in the future" < 1600422795 778795 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how're those memories < 1600422838 358786 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just started "cabal install cabal-install", I wonder where I will end up < 1600422858 32997 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warning: Note that reinstalls are always dangerous. Continuing anyway..." < 1600422860 505574 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff < 1600422878 35076 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should end up in ~/.cabal/bin ... possibly with a symlink in ~/bin < 1600422884 672237 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not running this as root, I hope < 1600422892 493696 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as root, no < 1600422923 702648 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Building Cabal-3.0.2.0..." ok, so far so good < 1600422948 765071 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, interesting... is your ghc (base) too old for 3.2? :) < 1600422968 458505 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be, I noticed the other day it's a minor version or two behind < 1600422970 953877 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lwxumhsktpumvthk JOIN :#esoteric < 1600422977 62435 :iscordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jgpwacvnnsobwreq JOIN :#esoteric < 1600423074 48754 :t20kdc!~20kdc@cpc139384-aztw33-2-0-cust220.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1600423079 163050 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm. no, that's not it, unless the ghc is older than 8.0 < 1600423136 511636 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ghc 8.0.smth where I think smth is 2 < 1600423165 501044 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, 2 < 1600423199 772027 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just happy for cabal-install to be not-ancient < 1600423321 868765 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, here's why... https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lukko-0.1.1.2/lukko.cabal < 1600423328 498729 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cabal-version: 2.2" < 1600423341 785278 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cabal-install 3.2 depends on lukko < 1600423445 951458 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see "Downloading the latest package list from hackage.haskell.org" still doesn't show a progress bar. That always annoyed me. < 1600423489 192057 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's building my project now though, looks a little nicer < 1600423498 640930 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has succeeded. so that's good < 1600423634 558311 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dist directory structure has altered considerably. That's less good < 1600423662 725464 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and lukko depends on Cabal 2.2 because it's dual-licensed. Such fun. ("license: GPL-2.0-or-later AND BSD-3-Clause" -- the "AND" is not supported in earlier versions) < 1600423664 685809 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll need to "install" the built binary somewhere before running automated tests on it I guess < 1600423685 333316 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear me < 1600423715 211813 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never really understood dual licensing < 1600423747 392828 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what way? < 1600423797 517846 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a user you get to pick one of the licenses. < 1600423803 160583 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have the option of distributing this under license X or license Y" when license X doesn't prohibit adding licence Y on top < 1600423814 821931 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just distribute under X, let people add Y if they feel like < 1600423844 42795 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this instance X=BSD3, Y=GPL2 < 1600423870 317365 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, the non-endorsement clause of the 3 clause BSD license is not compatible with GPL. < 1600423892 82840 :iscordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jgpwacvnnsobwreq NICK :Discordian[m] < 1600423895 712204 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least if you ask a lawyer. > 1600423955 394607 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07RarVM14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77565&oldid=70784 5* 03Void 5* (+25) 10Add author github link > 1600424000 626722 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07KeyVM14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77566&oldid=76127 5* 03Void 5* (+25) 10Add author github link < 1600424098 309980 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if I redistribute Lukko under the GPL am I then allowed to use the name of its author to endorse it? < 1600424131 452153 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well you're not bound by the clause in the BSD license then. < 1600424140 570265 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means... maybe. < 1600424180 928573 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're still constrained by general laws. < 1600424186 623891 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, if you are so inclined, ethics. :P < 1600424332 539268 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably if no-endorsing-clause was a dealbreaker for the author, they wouldn't allow the GPL option. So they could have just weakened it to BSD 2-clause. < 1600424396 835630 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's their choice. < 1600424417 465664 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and it was my choice to release the last version of ILLGOL under 8 different licenses < 1600424445 717982 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally I prefer the MIT license anyway... less clumsy to adopt for personal use. < 1600424505 366069 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "Regents of the University of California" ) < 1600424531 962018 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I release a lot of stuff under the Unlicense, partly because I don't want to bother updating copyright years < 1600424568 225371 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've gotten flak for choosing it, because some people think it's not valid in Germany or something < 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JOIN :#esoteric < 1600425964 28634 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1600426404 37493 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1600426469 21724 :opticnerve!~opticnerv@host-79-43-33-44.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1600426495 946717 :opticnerve!~opticnerv@host-79-43-33-44.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1600426545 166230 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600427177 200250 :cpressey!~cpressey@88.144.68.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600427878 119104 :cpressey!~cpressey@88.144.68.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure about this cabal upgrade. `cabal build` is ok, then `cabal install` tries to build again, but can't find interfaces < 1600428066 467485 :cpressey!~cpressey@88.144.68.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also `cabal build` doesn't detect changes in my source files. < 1600428074 33320 :cpressey!~cpressey@88.144.68.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am violating some assumption it's making, not sure what though < 1600428624 80946 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1600430063 368952 :cpressey!~cpressey@88.144.68.28 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1 < 1600432174 55898 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1600432189 980085 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1600435697 895306 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77567&oldid=77564 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+81) 10fix again + reminder > 1600436012 67502 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77568&oldid=77567 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (-92) 10 < 1600437178 410632 :t20kdc!~20kdc@cpc139384-aztw33-2-0-cust220.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1600437988 708868 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77569&oldid=77568 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+44) 10 > 1600438262 579704 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77570&oldid=77569 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (-21) 10 > 1600438325 704992 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77571&oldid=77570 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+50) 10 > 1600438441 837633 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77572&oldid=77571 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+85) 10 > 1600438756 389933 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77573&oldid=77572 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+100) 10 > 1600438939 20727 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77574&oldid=77573 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+22) 10 < 1600439129 323993 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1600439615 559783 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77575&oldid=77574 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (-17) 10 < 1600440371 984102 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.83.26.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :about numerical stuff < 1600440404 693075 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.47.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600440447 580548 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.83.26.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of converting between cent representation and frequency ratio representation when the user chooses so, might it be a bit more accurate to store both and manipulate them independently? < 1600440464 518169 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.83.26.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one is in logarithmic domain < 1600440557 380922 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.83.26.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :so conversions back and forth may be bad. But maybe they may go out of sync when calculating something long independently? < 1600440572 469150 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.83.26.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/they/the values < 1600442222 914857 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1600442225 912633 :Arcorann_!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1600442503 53003 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric > 1600447454 264730 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Remolacha 5* 10New user account < 1600449026 390911 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600449203 766556 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600449206 709038 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1600450192 738073 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1600450315 51913 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1600451013 322032 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1600451140 50052 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1600454605 60463 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1600454605 795388 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 181800Z 35002KT 1SM R08L/P6000FT/N R08R/P6000FT/N BR FU FEW007 FEW020 OVC037 18/17 A2989 RMK SF1SC1SC6 SLP122 DENSITY ALT 400FT < 1600454938 957038 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1600457433 827570 :zeroed!~admin@unaffiliated/zeroed QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.0 - https://znc.in < 1600458136 108660 :adminn!~admin@unaffiliated/zeroed NICK :zeroed < 1600458624 593679 :Bastura!6dacaf5b@109.172.175.91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600458801 512315 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1600459256 924102 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1600459911 195620 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1600460052 334869 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1600460109 308419 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric > 1600463874 51042 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07QTTRPG14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=77576 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+1169) 10Created the Page, In-Dev > 1600463927 156950 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07QTTRPG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77577&oldid=77576 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (+2) 10 > 1600463947 974864 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07QTTRPG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77578&oldid=77577 5* 03MatthiasChan 5* (-5) 10 > 1600467922 456040 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Binarycat 5* 10New user account < 1600467950 39135 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1600468234 147627 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77579&oldid=77557 5* 03Binarycat 5* (+176) 10 < 1600468390 965543 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1600470916 846747 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1600471532 772080 :Bastura!6dacaf5b@109.172.175.91 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1600472749 60826 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In TeX, cross-references which contain page numbers after the current page may affect their width and therefore affect line breaks, since you would first have to typeset them without the reference filled in. I suppose one solution might be to include leading zeros in page numbers. Another solution is to only cross-reference section numbers and not page numbers. < 1600472858 403981 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sort of thing is why you have to run tex multiple times to get all the references right, yeah? < 1600473112 966827 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am only running it once; just the first time, the output routine doesn't write anything into the DVI file. Deferred \write doesn't work if you don't write into the DVI file, so instead I use insertions containing alternating marks and penalties. < 1600473241 484814 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even if you are going to ship out the page, you may need some data from it before shipping it out in order to add headers and footers. Marks partially work, but that isn't always good enough. Using insertions in this way allows emulating multiple classes of marks.) < 1600473376 941686 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.83.26.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1600473452 416072 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another possibility that I can think of for cross-references to page numbers is to remember the values of \prevgraf for each paragraph where such cross-references occur, written to a file in order, and then during the next phase, read them back and save the difference, and then finally, use the differences as the \looseness parameter for that paragraph. < 1600473525 449620 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, this might fail if \brokenpenalty is nonzero.