< 1600042505 144769 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600052400 590364 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 QUIT :Quit: I seem to have stopped. < 1600056719 579379 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1600057134 882956 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: capture cards probaby have that, but as we no longer even have analog TV broadcast here anymore, you could only do that for video games < 1600059302 10991 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can find an analog TV transmission on the amateur bands :) < 1600059310 252684 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :or transmit one yourself if you want < 1600059486 207007 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1600059487 109266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 140400Z 30002KT 1 1/2SM FU SCT018 VV042 13/12 A2990 RMK ST4FU4 SLP127 < 1600059595 307560 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can receive amateur TV on the 70cm band on a regular analog TV / capture card by putting it into "cable TV" mode < 1600059612 529182 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600059612 646847 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1600059696 307067 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do I need some kind of antenna to receive it? What channel number would be used? Can it be received on the VCR? < 1600059710 611751 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600059710 729009 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1600059777 430209 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, and I don't like that we don't have the analog TV broadcast (I can receive one analog channel though, which seems to be some kind of signal analyzer), so use the cable box, but it goes through the VCR, and then to the TV. < 1600059809 225128 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never done it, but apparently cable channels 57-60 http://www.hamtv.com/ < 1600059888 646476 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, you'd need an antenna. regular UHF TV antenna would probably work ok < 1600059965 841634 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600059969 37866 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1600060005 361657 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought though they are cable numbers and not UHF numbers < 1600060024 181078 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could make a dipole for that particular band out of a scrap TV coax along the lines of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tafy51yUzQo&ab_channel=KevinLoughin < 1600060046 931285 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1600060191 633396 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there are UHF broadcast channels just above the 70 cm amateur band, so a broadcast TV antenna will probably receive those amateur frequencies okay. and the tuner can tune those frequencies in "cable TV" mode < 1600060601 821919 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if there are any available in my area, and I do not have a antenna, anyways. < 1600060635 235426 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like so much the cable box; you have to use their software, which has bugs, and is difficult to use with other stuff < 1600060692 422347 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too bad < 1600061030 810507 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen open source TV software, but I don't know if it can receive digital cable TV, and their remote controls don't have numbers. < 1600061085 106156 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The model of cable box I have has composite video out, component video out, S video out, analog and digital audio out, HDMI, IEEE 1394, USB, eSATA, and EXT IR IN. < 1600061220 900602 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what functions are available with these things, such as I don't know if HDMI-CEC is implemented. I do know that captions are transmitted on the component video out. Is there a way to use these things to implement an external control? < 1600061306 736502 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1600065299 360335 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1600065429 1371 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What my language obviously needs is the ability to run shell commands! < 1600065815 598036 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600065816 425473 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1600067053 558359 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :spruit11: Yes, and possibly popen(). < 1600067471 629586 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600067471 629659 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1600067908 364762 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. I was looking at the last Python process module and I think that total effort is half my interpreter, in LoC. < 1600069458 456274 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600069459 493147 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1600069476 889259 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1600070719 111112 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1600070990 682426 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1600071123 888389 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600071728 435371 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning < 1600072007 459026 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning to all too < 1600072545 378533 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...just another dreary Monday... < 1600072770 247659 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember: it isn't mondays you hate but capitalism. < 1600072778 465024 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just saw that on the internet. > 1600075422 593656 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Filth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77483&oldid=77482 5* 03Bananaapple 5* (+223) 10Removed ambiguity around label definition < 1600076722 562836 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1600076748 8774 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1600076756 36755 :dog_star!sid310875@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nllxnyczsduexecm QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600076814 627813 :dog_star!sid310875@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-znyoiltarorgvfml JOIN :#esoteric < 1600078377 105517 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning > 1600078408 201011 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[071L a14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77484&oldid=77478 5* 03SunnyMoon 5* (+98) 10Alright, maybe logic can be incorporated. But every if statement has an unwanted side effect. > 1600078435 765297 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[071L a14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77485&oldid=77484 5* 03SunnyMoon 5* (+1) 10Oh < 1600078959 441471 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600079852 273885 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600079852 420513 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1600080027 294534 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600080027 440620 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 QUIT :Excess Flood > 1600080994 656395 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Filth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77486&oldid=77483 5* 03Bananaapple 5* (-117) 10Updated my interpreter, so I updated the wiki. Also I don't want to arms race with the other interpreter :) < 1600081424 507789 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600081424 745800 :roseinhat!~PhpIrcCli@46.61.178.237 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1600081714 126296 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeet! I am automating my work on Egel in Egel.. < 1600081737 463324 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only problem, a two line perl script would do it better and shorter. < 1600081742 242142 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway. < 1600083058 101762 :aaaaaa!~ArthurStr@host-91-90-11-13.soborka.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1600083396 133746 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1600083720 539660 :egelbot!~egelbot@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1600083779 572602 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600084211 322316 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1600084476 681378 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com QUIT :Quit: Lunch. < 1600084590 512859 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1600084870 995242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Filth14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77487&oldid=77486 5* 03Bananaapple 5* (+3) 10license name typo < 1600086681 203735 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :spruit11: that means you're writing practical programs in egel and will learn of its deficiencies < 1600087148 588089 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :g/ 23 < 1600087154 280485 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail, sorry < 1600088157 615095 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah, Knuth, wasn't it. < 1600088520 196370 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1600089074 195216 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving to cmake turns out to be a net positive. < 1600089521 163633 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, to some extent it does what it is supposed to do. Short quick and dirty scripts kind-of work. https://github.com/egel-lang/egel/blob/master/contrib/scripts/egeldoc.eg < 1600092096 642924 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1600092170 501714 :aaaaaa!~ArthurStr@host-91-90-11-13.soborka.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1600093479 364861 :atriq!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600093965 294922 :atriq!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 NICK :Taneb < 1600095009 620271 :laerling!~laerling@static.235.77.203.116.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Changing host < 1600095009 620325 :laerling!~laerling@unaffiliated/laerling JOIN :#esoteric < 1600095281 5794 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1600095298 955296 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1600097724 772652 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1600097991 514690 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1600098223 456656 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1 < 1600098858 459520 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600098877 918467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1600098878 280027 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 141550Z AUTO 11006KT 050V140 9999 NCD 28/10 Q1019 NOSIG < 1600098892 958912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of September weather is this nonsense. < 1600099845 253618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. The letter combination "..fii.." looks somehow particularly ugly when the "fi" part gets ligated. < 1600099849 275640 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EHDL < 1600099849 912785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EHDL 141555Z AUTO 10003KT 030V160 9999 NCD 29/13 Q1022 BLU < 1600099951 257000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a BLU sky. < 1600100210 765033 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my opinion is still that the "fi" ligature looks ugly in most fonts, I believe that's because font creators put in such a ligature that looks obviously different from a normal "fi" to make it clear that this is a "professional" font that has such ligatures. most fonts wouldn't need such a ligature, or would need one that differes from a normal kerned "fi" only very slightly. < 1600100333 509698 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking of putting out only PDFs which look like they have 70's monotype/typewriter in them. < 1600100362 338932 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably with handwritten symbols and figures. < 1600100616 368858 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1600100616 976342 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 141550Z 07009KT CAVOK 26/13 Q1024 NOSIG < 1600100646 98013 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp effi < 1600100648 552692 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bogosort:Bogosort is an efficient sorting algorithm for nondeterministic Turing machines. Taneb may have invented it. < 1600100718 731863 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, I didn't know I might have invented htat < 1600100819 924570 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Taneb invented it, that must be one of those time-traveling inventions that he invented before he was born < 1600100918 763041 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was bogosort designed? < 1600100924 960039 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1600100947 413784 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1986 the latest < 1600100958 78656 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I was definitely not alive then < 1600100966 810308 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least so far < 1600100979 364160 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be one of those folklore things that are hard to trace to their origin < 1600101019 828595 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may indeed have been invented by a time travelling Taneb < 1600101091 600664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TTTP is short for the Time-Travelling Taneb Problem. < 1600102923 101726 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1600103121 514774 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1600103291 651973 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600103293 700498 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1600104730 451060 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[21:19] Preferably with handwritten symbols and figures. => that’s inhumane! < 1600104800 350368 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH I like handwritten figures, but the combination of typewriter and handwriting is awfully unreadable. Mainly due to typewriter typeface but < 1600105246 467044 :ATMunn!ATMunn@hellomouse.net QUIT :Quit: lol rip < 1600105249 181519 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1600105282 993877 :ATMunn!ATMunn@hellomouse.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1600105292 339631 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1600105300 133445 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw in Hamming’s book that the bell shape of IQ distribution is due to the way they normalize the experimental data in its definition. Damn < 1600105341 366539 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in “Art of Doing Science and Engineering”) < 1600105437 6794 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a couple of days ago a video about IQ being actually nice, correct and okay and that there is a ton of legit articles about it. Now I don’t know what to think < 1600105628 684566 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mysteriously that video hadn’t anything said on the abundance of strange tests pretending to measure IQ but not being such. I’d think usually people share links to those as it has been difficult to me to find a neutral (geography-agnostic etc.) one. If I don’t know what longitudes a couple of not so major cities have, I don’t have lower generall intelligence, but I saw a question with this intended solution in one of the fake tests < 1600109079 953182 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hastebin.com/afitakoroc.txt < 1600109164 105003 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone explain to me how I get multi-millisecond timings for something that takes drastically less cycles. < 1600109287 904508 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm misjudging actual work being done vs. interpreter spinup/spindown. < 1600110473 70841 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1600110473 876788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 141900Z 27005KT 1SM R26R/4500FT/N R26L/5000FT/N FU BR BKN002 BKN014 OVC028 16/14 A2997 RMK FU3SF2ST2SC1 SLP150 DENSITY ALT 100FT < 1600111743 892287 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1600111801 886306 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1600112174 758066 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :spruit11: Which specific fonts do you mean? If you are using only a single fixpitch font, then, other than diagrams, plain text will do OK (and you can add form feeds between pages if you want to do). < 1600112342 379719 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Do you think the "fi" ligature is good in some fonts? (I see many fonts have bad kerning, often either too much or not enough, and the font used for web pages in Firefox on my computer has too much kerning I think, how can I adjust that? < 1600112788 162436 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in some Times-like fonts it's good, yes < 1600112802 116706 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in CMR too < 1600113017 908614 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There are some nice retro fonts for latex which I downloaded once. They emulate old typewriters. < 1600113079 421838 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/344214/use-latex-to-simulate-old-typewriter-written-texts/344272 < 1600113101 119385 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I bought my new home computer! all the hardware will hopefully arrive this week, and then I can assemble and try it, but since there are so many parts and ways it can fail, it's unlikely that everything will actually work out within the week. < 1600113114 648830 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this doesn't count software configuration, which will take longer for me < 1600113181 357702 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is the most money that I have ever spent within any single day, though not by very far < 1600113678 42649 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the old days even PhD students would give their texts to an administrative who would type out/typeset it and fill in the math by hand. Also, fixed bugs in the text. I like that look. < 1600114195 111828 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I think that IQ is not the same as intelligence, although it is related. (I would define IQ as the score you would earn on a ideal IQ test, where 100 is average. Intelligence cannot properly be represented by a single number anyways, I think.) < 1600115213 775764 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I found out I suck at mental arithmetic with English-spelled numbers more than in general < 1600115277 498946 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: you do mental arithmetic in more than one language? I thought basically everyone did it only in one language, even bilingual people. < 1600115358 837300 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :spruit11: As far as I can see, that is just using existing OpenType Computer Modern fonts, but with pdfLuaLaTeX to make the variability. (I would probably have done something different: produce the DVI normally (without any random variability), and then implement the random variability in PostScript code instead.) < 1600115935 72216 :ifinkias!moloko@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-pibgouqneatatlrx JOIN :#esoteric < 1600116034 117636 :ifinkias!moloko@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-pibgouqneatatlrx NICK :asaaaa12 < 1600116303 763186 :asaaaa12!moloko@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-pibgouqneatatlrx QUIT :Quit: Client Quit < 1600116524 496259 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think I do it in just Russian, yeah. That’s an interesting question, I’ll ask my friends how they think about themselves < 1600117096 839326 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think I understand why eight hundred thirty five is worse than 835 at least for me: the latter is more helpful to try making something with in visual operating memory, than the words which need converting and thus pollute the operating memory (which is VERY limited unless we represent something via linking to the longer-term memory, so mnemonics, or in this case, hard practice with non-native numerals, may help) < 1600117266 949087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know about `perf stat`. < 1600117275 957567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I did and I forgot. < 1600117291 248142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add some of these things to my `time` program. < 1600117401 562218 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: Yes, writing numbers with digits rather than words is better to work with. < 1600117870 381913 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll take anything! < 1600117923 931455 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will take anything? < 1600117971 103526 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of a “dozenal transition problem”: if one uses 0123456789AB as base-12 digits, then when transitioning from base 10 to base 12, many literals like 389 will be ambiguous. So for example when transitioning to heximal, it would be practical to invent six, or at least five (leave 0 intact) new digits < 1600117988 582430 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what digits would you propose for whatever reason? < 1600118011 832373 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes! < 1600118029 504509 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just kidding, with regard to the retro typesetting. < 1600118094 734454 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: You can also make up an entirely new set of digits, or you can use prefixes such as 0x for hexadecimal (like in C) or 16# for hexadecimal (like in PostScript). < 1600118103 746557 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I don't like base 12, but if you insist, then I instead suggest base 5*6, with digits 0 1 2 3 4 5 for the unit digit, Z A B C D for the sixes digit, as described in http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-11-09.2335.html < 1600118139 71420 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then every number at least ends in a decimal digit, but every number that has more than one digit will have a digit that is not a decimal digit < 1600118190 918253 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my unthoughtful take on heximal (using old zero): J U Ɯ Ɣ Ƨ. Cons: even has lowercase! j u ɯ ɣ ƨ < 1600118225 964345 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Ƨ looks too similar to 2 in handwriting < 1600118328 527818 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that’s good for formal languages, I agree < 1600118344 893315 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but Ƨ looks too similar to 2 in handwriting => unfortunately < 1600118414 849843 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mixed 5×6 is interesting < 1600118428 109374 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it seems a bit complex < 1600118483 418908 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it does make it compatible with decimal numbers < 1600118484 502278 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought if one wants to transition to base 6, one may inadvertently end up with base 6×10 or 10×6 < 1600118502 8616 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah < 1600120209 581995 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosquitoes are very annoying. Moreso in the autumn when they should go to sleep, not pay me nightly visits. My poor fingers :( < 1600121668 335996 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?metar CYVR < 1600121668 818528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYVR 142200Z 30006KT 1SM R26R/4500FT/N R26L/5500FT/N FU BKN002 OVC021 16/14 A2994 RMK FU4SF1SC3 SLP139 DENSITY ALT 200FT > 1600123616 468297 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang Playground14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77488&oldid=75537 5* 03InfiniteDonuts 5* (+49) 10 > 1600123671 64145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang Playground14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=77489&oldid=77488 5* 03InfiniteDonuts 5* (+14) 10 < 1600124037 575874 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1600124070 400456 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1600124097 505614 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric