< 1596154374 719754 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I think the icon fonts is working. (I used the suggestion mentioned here to make the icon fonts to be vector fonts; the raster data will be recorded when the icon font is loaded.) < 1596154424 965026 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For pure monochrome icons, normal fonts probably will work better, I think.) < 1596154442 30375 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1596154461 492154 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1596154679 168798 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does ais523 know how to make icon of card game they were designing (if any icons should be needed)? < 1596154826 734128 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1596156301 23285 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 QUIT :Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1596156438 781830 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596156663 10625 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596157012 781247 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9940:7ed:e50b:1678:fedb:8182 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1596158195 780126 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a idea of a Magic: the Gathering card which can have "protection from cards". < 1596158361 550113 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, which grants protection from cards to enchanted permanent, maybe) < 1596158371 978011 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1596160699 761609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If every year you get returns of r on your money and then save 1 money, then after n years you have f^n(0), where f(x) = rx + 1. This is (r^n - 1)/(r - 1) < 1596160711 952581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a nice way to see why the ratio of "returns after n years - 1" to "returns after one year - 1" is this value? < 1596161256 960206 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIEWgwRrY9s < 1596161313 620911 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1596161349 871621 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it easier to think about in terms of the fact that 1/(1-r) = 1 + r + r^2 + ... < 1596161385 302438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can phrase it as (1 - r^n)/(1 - r) < 1596161410 555113 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, or (1/(1-r)) - r^n * (1/(1-r)) < 1596161421 438943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1596161434 263249 :Cale!~cale@CPEf48e38ee8583-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I'm not sure about the ratio thing < 1596161436 441932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing you can do when r is an integer is to say that 1+r+r^2+...+r^n is the number "111...111" in base r < 1596161476 908356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :111...111 = 999...999/9 = (10^n - 1)/(10 - 1) < 1596161509 307052 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596161527 908692 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1596161530 16708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe n is off by 1 here.) < 1596161546 593609 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the telescoping trick < 1596161585 392853 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(10-1)*11111 = 111110-11111 = 100000-1. > 1596161619 393784 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:ZippyMagician/Ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76352&oldid=76336 5* 03ZippyMagician 5* (+2292) 10Re-add < 1596161680 994471 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, properly written: sum_{0 <= i < n} x^i = 1/(x-1) sum_{0 <= 0 < n} x^(i+1) - x^i =[telescoping happens here]= (x^n - 1)/(x-1) < 1596161786 508723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is telescoping? < 1596161815 113140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still curious about the "ratio of return-1s". What should I be expecting that kind of thing to mean? < 1596161894 931151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: No kids and three money sounds pretty good. < 1596161929 26674 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1596161976 635287 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: telescoping is when one half of a term in a series cancels with the other half of the next term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescoping_series < 1596162010 847861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's an actual term to look up, I didn't realize. < 1596162017 138683 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here x^(k+1) (for i = k) and -x^(k+1) (for i = k+1) < 1596163402 156250 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596165177 986019 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1596165203 915430 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596166946 755479 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596167025 170769 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596167026 930407 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1596168020 60128 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1596169509 848560 :t20kdc!~20kdc@cpc139340-aztw33-2-0-cust225.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596173464 115272 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1596173855 959316 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1596180145 115530 :MDude!~MDude@74.5.140.76 QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1596180933 95017 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@172.242.0.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596181566 830584 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1596182666 280715 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - https://znc.in < 1596182666 280769 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1596182713 861750 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1596182779 358382 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596182779 358449 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1596182841 239123 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1596184393 954563 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-153.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1596184427 110211 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1596185051 731813 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596185471 195822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, why is it called "telling someone about the birds and the bees" in English? The equivalent Finnish idiom refers to "the flowers and the bees", which makes a lot more sense; pollination and all that. < 1596185760 689057 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_birds_and_the_bees with some discussion on the origin < 1596185777 174116 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1596185825 22804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I guess it's birds and bees as two separate things. < 1596185867 761946 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Whoever named that Mars rover "Perseverence" has never heard of jinxing it. ) < 1596185874 951152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Irreversible binomial" sounded like a math thing, but turned out to be a language thing. < 1596185994 436797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kissat seems like a pretty good SAT solver. < 1596186001 110581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won a bunch of the 2020 competition. < 1596186004 303133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has the best name? < 1596186010 827887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's difficult to compete. < 1596186115 688415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi:kissat = en:cats, but I have a feeling that wasn't intentional. < 1596186272 589748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/arminbiere/kissat says it's a coincidence. < 1596186275 912273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt that. < 1596186286 69977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the reason I said it has the best name. < 1596186319 242270 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you do your due diligence and google the name you'll figure that out < 1596186365 344403 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you duckduckgo you may find https://www.ilves-kissat.fi/ ... Google does not seem to deem it nearly as relevant :P < 1596186412 460035 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so that's Armin Biere's newest SAT solver. < 1596186632 935428 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( It's too bad that "clause" is singular and "claws" is plural. Otherwise there would be many puns. ) < 1596186640 777931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's the new CaDiCaL < 1596186740 998032 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kissat is a "keep it simple and clean bare metal SAT solver" written in C. [...] Coincidentally "kissat" also means "cats" in Finnish." < 1596186779 432661 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll think I'm mad as a hatter when I tell you that every SAT solver must have three different names < 1596186845 603554 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't the Lord of the Rings. < 1596186858 927512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's old possum's book. < 1596186895 1708 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Also, tbf, a reimplementation in a different language (even if it's moving from C++ to C) can justify a new name. < 1596186965 624978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Book of practical kissat? < 1596187023 77335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :CaDiCaL takes 80 CPU seconds to compile here, and kissat takes 13. < 1596187045 192668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's 9.3s and 1.6s with -j12.) < 1596187063 663171 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty good speedup < 1596187088 665897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what you get for using C++, I think. < 1596187092 393906 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the CPU time is all in spinlocks :P < 1596187127 322318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would cc use any spinlocks? < 1596187510 716718 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it starts hypertreading after -j6 and -j12 is only ~10% faster than -j6. < 1596187526 40400 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for kissat) < 1596187590 679478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's fair, I guess. < 1596187667 831268 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the missing `h` was intentional, in case you're wondering) < 1596187702 24051 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596188583 769373 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596188794 751609 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1596188954 443220 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/b.txt -- how does going beyond -j12 reduce sys time? < 1596188977 552378 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for cadical) < 1596189761 369707 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1596189791 354282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mysterious. < 1596189914 371493 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, ymmv (and I'm still pretty happy with the performance of this computer... it's almost 4 years old now, wow) < 1596190052 156068 :cpressey1!~cpressey@79-72-202-182.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1596190189 938507 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-201-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1596190271 12118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much total CPU time it would use if it was all in one translation unit. < 1596190545 919842 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@172.242.0.73 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1596191037 350605 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Math&Matrix14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76353&oldid=76332 5* 03FLeckami21 5* (+700) 10 > 1596191337 113327 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Math&Matrix14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76354&oldid=76353 5* 03FLeckami21 5* (+9) 10/* Matrix form */ < 1596192098 579312 :cpressey1!~cpressey@79-72-202-182.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com NICK :cpressey < 1596192761 543697 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:49e1:2235:a55d:a0e5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1596196048 833997 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-202-182.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com QUIT :Quit: A la prochaine. > 1596196410 817132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Math&Matrix14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76355&oldid=76354 5* 03TwilightSparkle 5* (-13) 10There are presets about common phrases here. < 1596196901 178328 :t20kdc!~20kdc@cpc139340-aztw33-2-0-cust225.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1596200238 580862 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-202-182.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1596201214 890281 :cpressey1!~cpressey@79-72-200-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1596201275 600854 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-202-182.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596201410 725721 :cpressey1!~cpressey@79-72-200-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com NICK :cpressey < 1596202143 346605 :rain1!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://math.stackexchange.com/users/7234/bill-gosper woah cool < 1596202231 90548 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1596202257 931117 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1596203045 181138 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596204423 334774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGLL < 1596204423 480631 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGLL 311350Z AUTO 15016KT 9999 NCD 37/11 Q1009 NOSIG < 1596204430 38112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just ridiculous. > 1596204508 53177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Maxi 5* 10New user account > 1596205117 541413 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76356&oldid=76343 5* 03Maxi 5* (+151) 10/* Introductions */ < 1596205991 487042 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1596205991 697941 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 311420Z 06009KT 030V090 9999 FEW070 FEW075TCU 33/15 Q1016 NOSIG < 1596206007 459610 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too warm already if you ask me < 1596206075 467683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1596206241 479293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1596206915 779341 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:ac41:ca60:848:e87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596207202 778000 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:ac41:ca60:848:e87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1596208138 828458 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-72-200-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1596208218 709235 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1596208584 490340 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596209225 679464 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1596210124 797503 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596210299 739929 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596210302 917183 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1596210338 147323 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596213347 546177 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invented my own kind of cryptographic randomized padding, where each frame consists of: the length of worthless data, the worthless data, the sequence number, the checksum of all data so far in this frame and all previous frames, the length of the payload data, and then the payload data. < 1596213363 875982 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Splitting the data into frames can be done arbitrarily.) < 1596213414 500821 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:ac41:ca60:848:e87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596213709 465668 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:ac41:ca60:848:e87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1596213812 559590 :MDude!~MDude@74.5.140.76 JOIN :#esoteric > 1596213922 735884 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BFBASIC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76357&oldid=37601 5* 03Maxi 5* (-22) 10Removed link to Wayback machine, since the page is available. < 1596215253 770421 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1596215384 654917 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to request more testers? < 1596215523 797396 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596215948 204341 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1596216427 815479 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596216653 368855 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-104-154.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596216815 783030 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric > 1596216831 203563 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Unleash14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76358&oldid=76338 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+0) 10/* Instruction % */ < 1596217298 402116 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:855:f94d:7217:96e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596217298 823002 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-104-154.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1596217818 899745 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1596218917 915863 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596219523 818595 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1596224513 669065 :aaaaaa!~ArthurStr@nat-pool-13-124.soborka.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596225306 866631 :aaaaaa!~ArthurStr@nat-pool-13-124.soborka.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all. Is there a channel for demomaking? < 1596225575 375062 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:855:f94d:7217:96e6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1596225791 395480 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BFBASIC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76359&oldid=76357 5* 03Maxi 5* (+136) 10 < 1596226155 576643 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. those retro guys are weirdos like us, some of them probably hang out on IRC somewhere. but I don't know the details sadly. < 1596226849 653912 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could ask alis < 1596227074 477929 :alienapefarm!~IceChat9@67-1-34-126.tcso.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596227487 514079 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:855:f94d:7217:96e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596227503 919211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRCnet, and to some degree EFnet, has(/had) a certain amount of association with the demoscene. < 1596227544 125774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less sure about specific channels though. pouët says http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=8192&page=1 (but that's from back in 2011 (but that's not *so* old)) < 1596227556 491282 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah, that would make more sense, they're on the old style networks rather than freenode or oftc < 1596227570 185587 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the kind of nonsense why I still have to connect to ircnet < 1596227628 167674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a few of my more demoscene-oriented friends frequented #coders, if I remember right. < 1596227728 777074 :alienapefarm!~IceChat9@67-1-34-126.tcso.qwest.net PART :#esoteric < 1596229255 951960 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my tooth hurts. it's not bad, it only stops me from eating on the left site. such a problem happens often enough I dread the day when I'll have a problem with teeth in both sides of my jaws and I won't be able to eat at all. < 1596229848 937641 :aaaaaa!~ArthurStr@nat-pool-13-124.soborka.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1596232071 285399 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I've been showcasing some of your programs you wrote in another channels. Thanks again. < 1596232086 434097 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also finally got around to analyzing them. Neat tricks! < 1596232103 914454 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :spruit11: can you be specific? thanks < 1596232121 224058 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote programs in other channels? do you mean like #jsoftware? < 1596232121 647216 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two quines and the mandelbrot renderer. < 1596232129 588461 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that's not a channel but ok < 1596232149 129143 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nono. I've been showcasing your programs, into other channels. < 1596232162 91613 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, *into* other channels. I see. < 1596232167 635760 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're now known as the 'genius from #esoteric'. < 1596232185 124191 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know if you would appreciate a direct reference. < 1596232234 247237 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now I'm not sure which two quines. I wrote more than two quines, both in J (which is what the mandelbrot renderer is written in, unless there's another one I totally forgot about) and in perl < 1596232241 322106 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I only wrote exactly two quines in C though < 1596232248 172251 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and exactly two in SQLite for that matter < 1596232264 620496 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egel! I am the guy who ran egelbot here for a while. < 1596232275 263508 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the egel quines and egel mandelbrot renderer < 1596232275 945759 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1596232286 675131 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know you wrote egel, but I forgot about those things < 1596232295 277473 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I write quines in a lot of things < 1596232319 946512 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally got the trick myself. Neat. < 1596232326 539636 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which trick? < 1596232339 40431 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick of writing quines in general, or the trick of writing that sort of quine that I'm writing? < 1596232362 138064 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trick to the quines you wrote. Don't know if there are more techniques. < 1596232506 139666 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some ways to write quines and polyglots depending on the programming language. < 1596232511 503664 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :other #esoteric regulars might be able to tell about that < 1596232514 981545 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what he says < 1596232675 500157 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing polyglot programs can also be useful for various purposes sometimes. < 1596232791 804053 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially public header files for libraries where the header is a C/C++ polyglot. C++ was designed to make that possible usually. < 1596232821 718678 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can use #ifdef for that, and I have seen that it is common < 1596232829 614129 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you usually don't even need ifdefs < 1596232841 153777 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just avoid a few things that break the combination < 1596232854 492279 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ifdefs come in when you want it to work with the MS compiler too < 1596232859 377981 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the programming language is similar enough that sometimes it works without. < 1596232902 640502 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if it's not very old C or very old C++ < 1596233105 636782 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hope my usual gibberish comes across to C++. I really have no idea what I am doing exactly in that language. < 1596233116 458051 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to work out, somehow. < 1596233134 654349 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :spruit11: but... isn't the egel implementation written in C++ already? < 1596233330 65660 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you have read https://perlmonks.com/?node_id=591502 right? it's my favorite polyglot, written by a friend < 1596233331 829616 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. No idea what I am doing. < 1596233336 960187 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But works. < 1596233344 262865 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1596233349 704421 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, everyone starts like that < 1596235287 841763 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make a polyglot with PostScript and with a shell script that executes the PostScript program, you might add the first line like: (exec gs -dNODISPLAY -dNOSAFER -q -- "$0" "$@"; ')pop%('); exit # (you can also define a different output than -dNODISPLAY, or you can handle selecting the output device in the PostScript code instead, using setpagedevice) < 1596235331 471432 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1596235602 916865 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1596235941 666392 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:855:f94d:7217:96e6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1596237153 227048 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1596237703 14035 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1596238133 553634 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1596238465 879259 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1596238562 68840 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1596239701 247282 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1596239968 131708 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds