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01:57:07 <esowiki> [[1+]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76021&oldid=75856 * TwilightSparkle * (-2) /* Turing-Completeness */
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02:45:12 <esowiki> [[Rui]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76022&oldid=75935 * DanielCristofani * (+31) Put links to my programs
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06:37:00 <zzo38> I remember reading a book about a chess variant called "Emperor Wars", where the board starts with several neutral pieces, which it is possible to gain control of by placing your own pieces next to them (if they move away, you lose control of them), and at the beginning, players take turns placing their pieces on vacant cells on the board such that they do not threaten opponent's pieces.
06:39:13 <zzo38> I do not remember all of the rules, but I remember there are pieces called "plebeian" (the neutral pieces), "emperor", "tribune", "senator", "centurion", "vestal virgin", and "praetorian guard" (maybe there were others too; I don't remember if there are any others or not)
06:40:00 <zzo38> Do you know anything about this?
07:04:50 <esowiki> [[Rui]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76023&oldid=76022 * DanielCristofani * (+130) /* Implementations */
07:12:56 <esowiki> [[Talk:Snowflake]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76024&oldid=76017 * Orisphera * (+0) 
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07:26:36 <esowiki> [[Talk:Nil]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76026&oldid=76025 * Orisphera * (+85) 
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08:41:02 <salpynx> > error ("Hello World!\n^bf " ++ concat [map (:[]) "]><+-.,[" !! digitToInt c | c <- showIntAtBase 8 intToDigit 0x1b6db6f96dbe5b2db2db2d24a02cb3097d050134c92b6db6ed6dd26a9556dd92492c92492525d2dd ""])
08:41:04 <lambdabot>  *Exception: Hello World!
08:41:05 <lambdabot>  ^bf ++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>...
08:41:16 <rain1> haha
08:41:27 <rain1> ^bf ++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>...
08:41:27 <fungot> Hello   
08:41:41 <salpynx> :(
08:41:56 <salpynx> didn't quite work as hoped
08:42:29 <rain1> ^bf ++++++++++[>+>+++>+++++++>++++++++++<<<<-]>>>--------.<++.>>+.+++++++++++++..---.+++.<<.++++++++.------.>>--------------------.++++.++++.<<-.+.+++++++.
08:42:30 <fungot> > error ("^bf!")
08:43:13 <salpynx> I was trying to pipe lambdabot's Haskell output to its own bf interpreter, then decided it'd be more fun to send it to fungot
08:43:39 <rain1> a bot wont interpret its own output
08:43:47 <rain1> but it seems that lambdabot is specially coded to ignore fungot
08:43:47 <fungot> rain1: in the hon. and learned friend the member for glasgow north, for the scottish government to the house to work with,
08:44:31 <salpynx> heh, they are ignoring each other!
08:49:24 <salpynx> @fungot do you ignore lambdabot?
08:49:24 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
08:49:24 <fungot> salpynx: of the three to pass. i have three months worth of buffer, a bit to the wales bill, the agreement paves the way to have the proper resources follow health is of course the government have
08:50:20 <rain1> > reverse "tognuf"
08:50:21 <lambdabot>  "fungot"
08:50:28 <rain1>  "fungot"
08:50:28 <fungot> rain1: what the hon. member of this house, you and i, and the scottish government,
08:50:36 <rain1> I wonder what happened between them?
08:50:53 <myname> the bots prefix their output be a zero-woidth character iirc
08:51:02 <myname> in order to not trigger themself
08:51:14 <rain1> OH!
08:54:59 <salpynx> I wasn't trying to bot loop, just to chain a series of commands in lambdabot, but it seems the bf interpreter is not accessible from within @run ", unfortunately" 
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09:06:50 <salpynx> I can see the extra prefix character in the logs (looks like a space). My newline worked as intended, but still foiled by some good defensive bot coding. Well done.
09:17:03 <int-e> rain1: fungot ignores known bots
09:17:04 <fungot> int-e: of the three members of the same people. the overwhelming majority, are not taken the opportunity to see the very careful way, over a fair period, 40 horse.
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10:23:25 <b_jonas> salpynx: lambdabot sort of has a compose command, though it's not as powerful as the compose command that I added to buubot
10:23:35 <b_jonas> in that one respect, buubot manages to be more esoteric but useful
10:29:03 <salpynx> ?. bf run concat [map (:[]) "]><+-.,[" !! digitToInt c | c <- showIntAtBase 8 intToDigit 0x1b6db6f96dbe5b2db2db2d24a02cb3097d050134c92b6db6ed6dd26a9556dd92492c92492525d2dd ""]
10:29:05 <lambdabot>   Hello WWW
10:30:29 <salpynx> b_jonas: thanks, that's what I wanted! (the output above is different to what I got when I tested it in private msg)
10:30:54 <salpynx> ?. bf run concat [map (:[]) "]><+-.,[" !! digitToInt c | c <- showIntAtBase 8 intToDigit 0x1b6db6f96dbe5b2db2db2d24a02cb3097d050134c92b6db6ed6dd26a9556dd92492c92492525d2dd ""] 
10:30:57 <lambdabot>   Hello WWW
10:32:03 <esowiki> [[Main Page]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76028&oldid=66787 * Lebster * (+1) Esolang -> Esolangs
10:33:01 <salpynx> odd, the output it 'Hello World!' when sent directly to lambdabot. It's different in the channel
10:36:01 <int-e> > concat [map (:[]) "]><+-.,[" !! digitToInt c | c <- showIntAtBase 8 intToDigit 0x1b6db6f96dbe5b2db2db2d24a02cb3097d050134c92b6db6ed6dd26a9556dd92492c92492525d2dd ""]
10:36:03 <lambdabot>  "++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-...
10:36:45 <int-e> note the ... at the end :-P
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10:40:08 <salpynx> oh! ellipsis = triple output, of course :)  Direct msg output doesn't get truncated in the same way. 
10:40:23 <salpynx> I guess that's to prevent public channel spam
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10:53:25 <arseniiv> fungot is it hot // or is it cold huh fungold?
10:53:26 <fungot> arseniiv: the hon. member of this house, whom i do not always agree, he said this fnord before the us decided to relocate, creating 200 that have shut down the rail minister, the hon. and learned friend the member for the cotswolds, that
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10:54:47 <arseniiv> ah, so you’re in parliament rooms still. Surely there is air conditioning somewhere, I’m glad for you
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11:20:07 <fizzie> fungot: I was just reading the Wikipedia page about Cotswolds, I've never been there, what's it like? 
11:20:07 <fungot> fizzie: this is the right decision, and you a merry christmas, mr speaker,
11:21:50 <fizzie> Looks like I won't be going either, then.
11:21:52 <fizzie> As for the ignoring, yeah, fungot doesn't do the zero-width space trick (HackEso does), it just has a hardcoded ignore list.
11:21:52 <fungot> fizzie: this is in the best interest of the more vulnerable, it
11:22:12 <fizzie> fungot: Yeah, I know, it's reasonable.
11:22:13 <fungot> fizzie: i am because no government, regardless. the universal joint was shot off the fnord, my fnord wires cut and petrol was fnord all over the devolved nations, the house might have to be carried.
11:22:33 <fizzie> Politics sounds more exciting than I thought.
11:22:34 <fizzie> ^ignore
11:22:35 <fungot> ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|HackEso|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|metasepia|ruddy|preflex|evalj|idris-bot|passwordBOT|jconn|applybot|blsqbot|fnordbot|termbot|otherbot|j-bot|esowiki|bfbot|egelbot)!
11:38:14 <b_jonas> calling the top few kilometers of Earth "crust" in English is such a misleading term, it should be called the "icing", where "crust" should refer to the thick layer below it, what we now call "mantle"
11:38:31 <b_jonas> s/few/ten/
11:38:45 <b_jonas> no wait
11:38:55 <b_jonas> s/few/few dozen/ 
11:39:04 <b_jonas> argbh
11:39:07 <b_jonas> s/ten/few dozen/
11:40:40 <t20kdc> fungot: are you really a bot
11:40:40 <fungot> t20kdc: they have not been an issue historically because the military union was only to be targeted, and the hon. and learned friend the member for edinburgh north and leith, that famous for the progress to date,
11:41:17 <int-e> `? fungot
11:41:18 <fungot> int-e: fnord fnord fnord, i have a friend in the chair: that legislative process has been equipped the previous year, the percentage of fnord and short-term business visits, that are an indictment, to a fine,
11:41:20 <HackEso> fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason.
11:41:30 <t20kdc> no bot could say something so clearly in politicalese
11:41:41 <int-e> ^style
11:41:41 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl* youtube
11:42:39 <t20kdc> unless the secret to being a politician is to have a 2-dimensional brain
11:45:39 <int-e> Like a cortex?
11:46:55 <t20kdc> or like a Befunge interpreter
11:47:13 <b_jonas> t20kdc: it's "2-dimensional" but not in the cellular automaton sense, it has random access read/write commands
11:47:47 <t20kdc> something-"entanglement"-something
11:47:54 <b_jonas> no
11:48:20 <b_jonas> (1) that's not how quantum works, (2) if it was possible, we didn't still have such non-powerful multi-layer ICs as our processors
11:48:50 <t20kdc> in regards to (1): I know but am joking
11:49:22 <b_jonas> but of course our DRAMs emulate random access on those, through a slow bandwidth, an we run brainfuck and every other random access stuff on that or something similar
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11:49:41 <b_jonas> our DRAMs and our SSDs and our hard disks etc
11:52:45 <int-e> t20kdc: ah don't worry, I did get the Befunge reference.
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12:09:36 <fizzie> b_jonas: I think icing might have the problem that it has connotations of softness, at least the crust has that the right way around (it's the hard outermost bit), AIUI the mantle is -- well, it's still solid, but sort of less so.
12:09:43 <fizzie> b_jonas: Maybe the pedosphere is really the icing... though if so, someone's skimped on it as far as eating the Earth for dessert is concerned.
12:12:54 <b_jonas> fizzie: but icing is hard, it's cream that's soft, you can have either on a cake (or even none)
12:13:20 <b_jonas> well, in a good cake
12:13:56 <b_jonas> the crust should be soft (it's hard in some desserts but I prefer soft ones), frozen sugar icing is hard and fragile and prone to fractures and icingquakes as you cut the cake
12:15:18 <b_jonas> chocolate icing, which I prefer over frozen sugar icing, are also fragile and prone to icingquakes, and can still be harder than the crust, definitely harder if you take only as thin a slice of the crust as the icing is
12:18:21 <fizzie> Yes, I guess in situations where you do have icing, the crust does tend to be less hard.
12:18:36 <b_jonas> there's also caramel icing
12:18:57 <b_jonas> and Dobos torta sugar icing
12:19:00 <b_jonas> mmm
12:19:31 <int-e> where is this going, are you all going to start licking the ground?
12:19:46 <b_jonas> int-e: no, we just want to develop esoteric terminology
12:22:56 <esowiki> [[Affine Mess]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76029&oldid=75969 * Caenbe * (+335) I think this explains my thoughts better than calling it a "work-in-progress".
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15:53:45 <arseniiv> <b_jonas> calling the top few kilometers of Earth "crust" in English is such a misleading term, it should be called the "icing", where "crust" should refer to the thick layer below it, what we now call "mantle" => lol
15:54:33 <int-e> oh github seems to have improved tracking review comments when updating commits (by force-pushing)
15:54:54 <int-e> so they're not only breaking things
15:57:26 <arseniiv> b_jonas: what about solid and liquid core, should they become hmm well I don’t know how it’s called in any language
15:59:34 <t20kdc> ooo! jam and a gobstopper?
15:59:48 <t20kdc> ...in the opposite order.
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17:58:22 <esowiki> [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76031&oldid=76014 * Hakerh400 * (+34) +[[Transortogonal Polymorphism]]
17:58:25 <esowiki> [[User:Hakerh400]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76032&oldid=76015 * Hakerh400 * (+34) +[[Transortogonal Polymorphism]]
18:02:52 <esowiki> [[Transortogonal Polymorphism]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76033&oldid=76030 * Hakerh400 * (-9) Remove unused variable
18:03:01 <arseniiv> t20kdc: haha
18:05:47 <arseniiv> though maybe not jam, jam seems to be too soft. Maybe something like mm how’s it called, that almost solid chewy caramel thing?..
18:14:32 <b_jonas> araseniiv: I think "core" is fine
18:15:01 <b_jonas> almost solid chewy caramel thing => aww. it's toffee. I hate it.
18:15:14 <b_jonas> it's too sticky
18:15:27 <t20kdc> wait, toffee? ... I need to go get an excavator!
18:16:11 <b_jonas> t20kdc: alas, no. https://xkcd.com/2058/
18:28:39 <arseniiv> b_jonas: but there’s so much iron and nickel that’s a good idea anyway. We could build so many bridges
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