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But, they also turn to be, not what I want (in terms of what I thought they might be practical for.) 10:56:26 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73655&oldid=73654 * D * (+808) 11:04:47 -!- stux has joined. 11:05:05 -!- TheLie has joined. 11:09:44 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73656&oldid=73655 * D * (+909) 11:10:41 [[Small]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73657&oldid=71593 * D * (+0) 11:14:56 Changing Rn & Rm to mean "apply first Rn then Rm in sequence" probably also gets a semiring. 11:15:41 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 11:17:01 + is associative and commutative. 0 is an artifical rule that never matches anything. & is associative. 1 is an artificial rule that can always be applied, but which never changes anything. 11:18:01 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73658&oldid=73656 * D * (+375) 11:18:20 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 11:18:30 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 11:20:23 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73659&oldid=73658 * D * (+288) 11:22:02 To be clearer, Rn & Rm => "If Rn can be applied and then Rm can be applied, then apply Rn and then apply Rm" -- that way R & 0 = 0 for all R. 11:23:12 Hm, maybe & isn't associative 11:24:12 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73660&oldid=73659 * D * (+80) 11:26:19 hell 11:26:21 hello 11:27:13 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73661&oldid=73660 * D * (+45) 11:29:30 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73662&oldid=73661 * D * (+174) 11:30:04 hi rain1 11:30:56 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73663&oldid=73662 * D * (-14) Fix spacing, etc. 11:34:32 [[Talk:Unary Filesystem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73664&oldid=73576 * D * (+308) 11:37:51 hey 11:38:04 im using sagemath for galois theory calculations, it is very good 11:38:52 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73665&oldid=73663 * D * (-4) 11:39:18 rain1: try https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=940327 11:39:51 -!- Arcorann_ has joined. 11:40:00 oh.. these are hard 11:42:27 also https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=863110 and the stuff it links to 11:42:28 -!- Arcorann has changed nick to Guest57755. 11:42:28 -!- Guest57755 has quit (Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))). 11:42:28 -!- Arcorann_ has changed nick to Arcorann. 11:42:59 ty! 11:49:03 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73666&oldid=73665 * D * (+9) I'll do it later. 11:56:18 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73667&oldid=73666 * D * (+30) Swapping operands might be quite useful here. 11:57:02 -!- cpressey has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1). 11:57:20 [[DIVCON]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73668&oldid=73667 * D * (+2) 12:05:58 -!- arseniiv has joined. 12:14:52 -!- arseniiv has quit (Quit: gone too far). 12:18:41 -!- arseniiv has joined. 12:35:30 [[Unary Filesystem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73669&oldid=73580 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+11) /* Hello World */ 12:38:44 [[Pixiedust]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73670&oldid=73653 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+106) 12:42:45 -!- TheLie has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 13:00:11 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 13:02:40 -!- cpressey has joined. 13:51:58 -!- TheLie has joined. 13:55:08 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:27:06 -!- TheLie has joined. 14:32:34 -!- cpressey has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:36:01 -!- cpressey has joined. 15:15:15 -!- Arcorann has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:38:37 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:55:23 -!- cpressey has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1). 16:17:01 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow/Manycats]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73671&oldid=73629 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-1) /* Instructions */ 16:57:08 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 16:58:39 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 17:02:20 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow/Manycats]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73672&oldid=73671 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-12) /* Instructions */ 17:11:11 -!- TheLie has joined. 17:55:49 zzo38: you didn't react to https://esolangs.org/logs/2020-06-11.html#ldd yesterday, so repeating just in case: get card set data dumps from scryfall every few months, see https://scryfall.com/docs/api/bulk-data 17:56:05 or I might have missed your reacton 18:10:12 OK. How big is the data? Are incremental updates possible, to store only the cards whose data has changed? 18:11:43 zzo38: that page gives numbers. I don't think it has incremental updates using those bulk dumps, maybe look at the rest of the api help 18:12:08 OK, I will look 18:25:41 I looked at the changelog and it look like they have timestamp URLs. I haven't checked if previous versions are still available though or not 18:30:40 Are all of the card scans correctly aligned? 18:31:57 (The main reason for wanting aligned scans, I think, is if you want to substitute the Oracle text while keeping the same artwork; this may be relevant when rendering puzzles, for example.) 18:33:24 zzo38: I think not always at first, because they upload preliminary photos of cards they haven't obtained yet, but for cards in English already released in large volume randomized boosters for a week probably less 18:34:15 zzo38: I think they have an api to serve just the art box without a frame too 18:37:38 Well, as long as the art box is correctly aligned (and the resolution is correct), then you could construct the frame by yourself, I suppose. 18:39:15 not with these modern cards that have all sorts of nonsense 18:39:48 annoying custom art in the text box of every fucking colorless card 18:40:25 new frame elements every year 18:42:38 how about they fork the whole thing ;) 18:42:56 Like "M:tG classic" and "M:tG modern" 18:43:20 O, I suppose that is correct. But you could then render it without extending the art outside of the art box, I suppose. 18:44:10 Or, something else I have wanted, is an extended version of the old style frame, with more room for text (and possibly more room for art too, at least horizontally). 18:44:55 int-e: as in take the snapshot in 2012, no new cards, bugfixes only? yes, that may make a better game 18:46:19 I don't know if the size of the art box would then be correct for modern cards, but, maybe it is, I don't know. 18:47:05 b_jonas: I had something different in mind: Make new cards but stick to the old, more stringent layout conventions. Maybe have crappier artwork and less saturated colors as well ;) 18:47:39 And I'm not quite serious. 18:47:52 I like much of the old style artwork, although a few of the new ones are good too. 18:51:10 b_jonas: It's worth noting that I'm stuck in time wrt M:tG. I have bascially not seen any of the new things since 2010. 18:53:21 I always keep track of changes to the rules these days, although I have not always seen all (or any) of the new cards. 18:54:42 too esoteric for me ;) 18:59:34 -!- Sgeo has joined. 19:42:50 I also invented a version control format for data in SQLite databases, for use with TeXnicard; some of its features are specific to TeXnicard but it could be adapted for other uses too. Maybe it can also be used for keeping track of Oracle changes in Magic: the Gathering, too. 19:43:10 What does TeXnicard do? 19:43:35 [[VeriBasic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73673&oldid=58396 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+81) 19:44:21 rain1: TeXnicard is a program for making databases of, statistics of, collaboration of (that is what the version control files are for), and rendering, of cards for card games such as Magic: the Gathering and other card games. 19:44:27 . o O ( It keeps zzo38 busy. ) 19:44:29 (including making up your own card game) 19:44:58 It is an alternative to Magic Set Editor. 19:45:08 [[Vrty]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73674&oldid=57501 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+57) 19:45:26 [[Vrty]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73675&oldid=73674 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-39) 19:45:28 There is a Fossil repository at http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/texnicard.ui 19:46:05 [[Celsee]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73676&oldid=69267 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-33) 19:49:39 I would hope that anyone who is interested in TeXnicard can help with this project of TeXnicard. Do you? 19:50:47 I see 19:50:51 that's a good idea 19:51:19 [[MATL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73677&oldid=52235 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+23) /* Fibonacci sequence */ cat 19:58:22 (There are many features of MSE that I don't like.) 19:59:53 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow/Manycats]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73678&oldid=73672 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+179) 20:08:50 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:10:24 -!- TheLie has joined. 20:19:07 [[Writeover]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=73679 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+3009) Created page with "'''Writeover''' is a [[string]]-uncertainty language by [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow]] made in 2019 or 2020. =="String-uncertainty language"?== Rather than being a string-ma..." 20:19:57 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73680&oldid=73452 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+16) /* W */ + [[Writeover]] 20:20:36 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73681&oldid=73380 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+49) /* Languages */ 20:21:42 -!- rain1 has quit (Quit: leaving). 20:22:15 [[Writeover]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73682&oldid=73679 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+47) /* Syntax */ 20:22:39 [[Writeover]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73683&oldid=73682 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* Curly braces */ grm 20:30:27 The programming languages used in TeXnicard are C, SQL, and PostScript. If you wish to design fonts, then it is also helpful to know METAFONT (although you might also be able to use other programs to produce the fonts in TFM and PK format; that works too). If you are only making templates and not modifying TeXnicard itself, then C programming is not needed, but SQL and PostScript are. 20:36:49 [[Semper dissolubilis]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73684&oldid=70035 * Hakerh400 * (-41) 20:57:50 [[YABALL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73685&oldid=47130 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+28) /* External resources */ cat 21:00:18 [[Anguish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73686&oldid=58264 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+21) CAT 21:02:10 [[Talk:Gregor Richards]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73687&oldid=22845 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+47) unsigned 21:04:44 [[Kill]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=73688&oldid=66932 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+98) /* External resources */ cats 21:05:08 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:47:30 I thought of a new card "Librarian's Wall" that when it blocks, fateseal 1 and then the active player draws a card. Do you have idea to set the toughness, mana cost, etc? 22:41:11 -!- adu has joined. 23:16:06 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 23:18:29 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 23:18:57 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 23:23:10 -!- spruit11 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 23:24:45 -!- spruit11 has joined. 23:29:25 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection).