< 1589933478 618 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.202.91 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1589933498 899357 :OriginalOldMan!18113c0c@c-24-17-60-12.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1589933632 66844 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TheCoderPro 5* 10New user account > 1589933730 487677 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Felipesabino 5* 10New user account > 1589934004 630740 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72531&oldid=72461 5* 03Felipesabino 5* (+295) 10/* Introductions */ < 1589934797 562842 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1589934947 629054 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1589934966 101230 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1589935043 156931 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1589935127 74944 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1589935154 246690 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1589935594 70607 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1589935630 889603 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1589936353 879813 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1589936524 578071 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clementine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72532&oldid=72529 5* 03Orby 5* (+23) 10 > 1589936592 338675 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Charmaster16 5* 10New user account < 1589936781 850767 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric > 1589936786 474835 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72533&oldid=72531 5* 03Charmaster16 5* (+170) 10/* Introductions */ > 1589936868 384286 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72534&oldid=72533 5* 03Charmaster16 5* (+94) 10/* Introductions */ > 1589937429 129771 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Huf14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=72535 5* 03Charmaster16 5* (+145) 10Created page with "huf is a time consuming and useless language. Its syntax is a little similar to brainfuck. Check it out here: https://github.com/Charmaster16/huf" > 1589937469 689362 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Huf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72536&oldid=72535 5* 03Charmaster16 5* (+39) 10 > 1589937534 460278 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Charmaster1614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=72537 5* 03Charmaster16 5* (+46) 10Created page with "Real name is Charlie Hough. Creator of [[huf]]" > 1589937847 716869 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Huf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72538&oldid=72536 5* 03Charmaster16 5* (+0) 10 > 1589937979 163813 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72539&oldid=72467 5* 03Charmaster16 5* (+10) 10/* H */ < 1589939529 891163 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1589940479 886588 :OriginalOldMan!18113c0c@c-24-17-60-12.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1589941332 298800 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 2 symbol simple translation of that latest language added to the wiki 'huf' in pico(). An experiment to see how fast a language I'd never heard of could be converted without modifying the existing pico() definition. < 1589941705 826651 :spruit11!~unknown@ip56522cc1.speed.planet.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1589941733 818518 :spruit11!~unknown@ip56522cc1.speed.planet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1589942802 669565 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :salpynx: nice. I'm trying to see if it's theoretically possible to reduce underload to one concatenative combinator plus quoting. < 1589942886 178597 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw, restricted clementine should have interesting implications for godel numberings if i can prove it tc < 1589942943 668049 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :* is really hard to compose in restricted clm. Maybe impossible. The other combinators are easy. < 1589943089 472261 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I also reformulated clementine so that it's now the smallest proper simple translation of underload that I know of. < 1589943119 707566 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also M^, but it lacks quotes < 1589943684 855341 :adu!~arobbins@c-73-129-154-238.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1589946751 341037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1589947688 629729 :adu!~arobbins@c-73-129-154-238.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu > 1589948993 501373 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dotsy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72540&oldid=70238 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+9) 10 < 1589950483 150545 :xavo[m]!undersco1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jmnwvsqitgfmekff QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1589950507 999019 :xavo[m]!undersco1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nltkfwrisxnxvija JOIN :#esoteric < 1589954458 547612 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mathematical function I mentioned earlier, I called it "IINL" for "increment in nested loops". I wrote article <1589825967.bystand@zzo38computer.org> about it, and some questions, but so far they just argue about the definition of nested loops instead of actually answering the question. Maybe eventually someone who doesn't use Google will answer the question properly. < 1589954582 944120 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe my definition is unclear, although the people on this IRC seem to understand it, at least.) < 1589954598 812958 :doesthiswork!~doesthisw@98.125.179.91 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1589954614 763467 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1589954916 384519 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72541&oldid=72206 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+529) 10Probably not PF. > 1589955243 240937 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72542&oldid=72541 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+74) 10/* PFC4 */ > 1589955329 571157 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72543&oldid=72542 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (-20) 10/* PFC4 */ < 1589955633 382292 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yum. https://d4stiny.github.io/How-to-use-Trend-Micro-Rootkit-Remover-to-Install-a-Rootkit/ < 1589955676 158833 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This kind of reversal feels very much on topic here to me.) < 1589956186 763635 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1589956483 590114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72544&oldid=72543 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+186) 10/* PFC4 */ maybe? < 1589956769 209706 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric > 1589956821 487747 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Picofuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72545&oldid=72544 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+302) 10/* PFC4 */ < 1589958820 893834 :Antebrationist!ca9a82a9@202-154-130-169.dsl-dynamic.connections.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1589958833 377790 :Antebrationist!ca9a82a9@202-154-130-169.dsl-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I did a codegolf in Eldritch. < 1589958913 195276 :Antebrationist!ca9a82a9@202-154-130-169.dsl-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, create a Hello, World! program which doesn't contain any of the letters or characters "!,delorHW" < 1589958919 933534 :Antebrationist!ca9a82a9@202-154-130-169.dsl-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is my program: < 1589958929 494032 :Antebrationist!ca9a82a9@202-154-130-169.dsl-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :VFcjjm* Umpjb < 1589958935 284963 :Antebrationist!ca9a82a9@202-154-130-169.dsl-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, formatting. < 1589958955 619902 :Antebrationist!ca9a82a9@202-154-130-169.dsl-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/TLyflk < 1589959138 576328 :Antebrationist!ca9a82a9@202-154-130-169.dsl-dynamic.connections.net.nz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1589959162 817878 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc <<<5735816763073854953388147237921P < 1589959164 741887 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1589959827 456987 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1589960528 852066 :LKoen!~LKoen___@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1589961740 394825 :gnu-nobody!~a@24.133.64.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1589965250 867591 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1589965285 961412 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I met Daniel Cristofani a few days ago < 1589965298 41686 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turned out, he managed to learn asm2bf in two days < 1589965304 75581 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solely reading it's source code < 1589965361 263578 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm impressed, because most people trying to learn asm2bf overall failed miserably < 1589965371 127846 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess it's just him being brainfuck pioneer < 1589965445 444935 :gnu-nobody!~a@24.133.64.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1589965574 814172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1589965585 840911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just used five different editors within the past hour < 1589965602 170126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not because of some sort of editor evaluation, either, each was the obvious (or in some cases only available) tool for the job < 1589965609 784233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what this says about me < 1589965632 230018 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That you're someone comfortable with a large toolbox? < 1589965770 987972 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are they editing the same kind of thing, like text files? < 1589965805 996488 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use two text editors at work. It's not because they're good for the job, both of them sucks, but I don't have a really good text editor. < 1589965816 938873 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Five sounds a bit excessive. < 1589965950 152093 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could even count three. I use three exitors at work. < 1589966031 90137 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do dedicated IDEs count < 1589966343 796908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1589966768 771809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: one of them was a dedicated IDE for Java < 1589966789 722783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I used it for all the Java files that were on my local computer, and no files that didn't meet that description < 1589966798 656873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for not responding earlier, I somehow managed to turn off pings by mistake) < 1589966815 87435 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, occasionally I use a dedicated IDE too < 1589966832 267895 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they suck, so mostly I just edit those files in a normal editor < 1589966845 683223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then one of them is vi, which I don't use through choice (I might occasionally use vim, but vi is kind-of sucky by comparison) < 1589966870 117146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was the most powerful editor installed on the (BusyBox-based) system < 1589966907 222832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest were more "through choice" cases, though; nano for quick editing in terminals; gedit for taking notes that go in the background; Emacs for more serious editing < 1589966920 989883 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use vi*m* routinely to make small edits in configuration files. < 1589966931 822169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: right, that's comparable to my use of nano < 1589966940 739412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing wrong with vim for that, I just happen to prefer nano < 1589966954 166011 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I never liked nano for some reason < 1589966964 856372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim is more powerful but takes more thought to use < 1589966984 963421 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically I don't use any of the advanced features < 1589966988 193124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think vim is probably only worth using if you're willing to put in enough practice to use it via instinct so that you don't have to think < 1589967009 920362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, being able to say "delete 7 words" is powerful, but being able to /count/ 7 words is hard < 1589967051 62746 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, when you don't want to think that much, you press v then keep hitting e until it reaches the end of what you want to delete, then d < 1589967053 222778 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is my go to editor for most things. specific IDEs I've used include Isabelle/jEdit, coqide, eclipse. < 1589967066 404525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what's the difference between e and w? < 1589967069 2026 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can occasionally count 7 characters, but I don't think I ever tried to count 7 words < 1589967076 331579 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: e goes to the end of a word, w goes to the start of a word < 1589967079 180101 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :both move forward < 1589967085 214998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1589967092 556394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim has so many subtle differences like that < 1589967097 820382 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not a Haiku person < 1589967169 962122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Emacs controls are better for deleting words one at a time, you hold meta and tap d for each word you want to delete < 1589967296 942658 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: more importantly, when you do that in emacs, you get one entry in the yank list. vim doesn't try to unify adjacent deletions, so if you hit x four times to delete four characters, you get four yank entries. < 1589967421 140208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I actually used /6/ editors < 1589967424 321591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot that one of them was sed < 1589967437 794724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because automated editing is a little different in nature from human editing < 1589967466 184752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven if you count readline at the bash prompt, but you shouldn't < 1589967476 423135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and rather more if you count random text input boxes in GUI applications) < 1589967715 343225 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( like this one in irssi, minus the "G" ) < 1589967748 742527 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't think we should count these. :) < 1589967849 461592 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For example, ghci uses haskeline, which is distinct from readline even though it feels basically the same. If I start looking around a bit I suspect I might find an editline user as well.) < 1589970766 702089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes me wonder what an editor is < 1589970793 303215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Claudio Calvelli (author of CLC-INTERCAL) once wrote an editor using nothing but Bourne shell and dd; I don't know what its functionality is like < 1589970802 826515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the entire purpose of the project was the silly language choice < 1589970816 866918 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody who selects and arrenges articles for a printed product. < 1589970827 612030 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*arranges < 1589971631 542486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. (17) editor, editor in chief -- (a person responsible for the editorial aspects of publication; the person who determines the final content of a text (especially of a newspaper or magazine)) < 1589971635 558488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. editor program, editor -- ((computer science) a program designed to perform such editorial functions as rearrangement or modification or deletion of data) < 1589971642 532164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sense 2 is pretty generic. < 1589971652 997716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess 'rm' is an editor as well? < 1589971685 588028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you an editor in either sense? < 1589971685 690624 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: burn her! < 1589971841 474827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: arguably the purpose of rm isn't deleting data < 1589971844 319026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm just un-names files < 1589971850 878963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the filesystem's garbage collector that deletes data < 1589971856 570871 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlinks < 1589971862 657103 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems more correct < 1589971880 707427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's a technical term, and thus would have undermined my point somewhat < 1589971978 126561 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, rm is a file system editor < 1589972011 149600 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much in the same way that scissors are paper editors ;) < 1589972047 194208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I like that < 1589972051 359896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi edits files, rm edits filesystems < 1589972245 999570 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/1993/07/07 < 1589972301 559030 :spruit11!~unknown@ip56522cc1.speed.planet.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htaSWIPMvVM&pbjreload=10 < 1589972308 49764 :spruit11!~unknown@ip56522cc1.speed.planet.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1589972312 726304 :spruit11!~unknown@ip56522cc1.speed.planet.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. < 1589972363 848276 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:28ce:9c92:2a59:623d JOIN :#esoteric < 1589972449 547696 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but rm -r also does rmdir, to which the garbage collector thing doesn't apply, rmdir plain just deletes a directory < 1589972501 717014 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also rm still works on file systems like FAT, which doesn't have inodes, nor anywhere you could store a link count < 1589972584 166867 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:d936:4368:d54a:5b73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1589972609 231436 :gnu-nobody!~a@24.133.64.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1589972633 47634 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how do you rearrange text using rm? < 1589972663 884218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: does rmdir unlink directories on filesystems that allow for directory hardlinks? < 1589972713 761781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! another thing I did today was to change my bash prompt to show my primary group, rather than my user < 1589972733 133439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because for all the regular user accounts I use the primary group and user are the same, but sometimes I temporarily switch primary group < 1589972741 645751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I want a reminder of when I've done that < 1589972768 256815 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know, "directory hardlinks" is something that I only heard as having existed historically, I don't think I've ever met it as something that actually exists < 1589972801 92600 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if that ever coexisted with a hierarchical file system < 1589972831 743515 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was used back in pre-v1 unix when every call that needed a path instead took two arguments, a directory name and a file name, with no separators in them < 1589972914 219129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely remember NTFS supporting something directory-hardlink-like, it might be different though < 1589972998 820680 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they just have three different types of symlink < 1589973005 498160 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or four < 1589973010 892559 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :each of which work on directories < 1589973098 751451 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure I could even distinguish between "like a symlink" and "like a hardlink" for aliases that are set up by the operating system and that I would never try to remove or rename because I'm sure it would either fail or break something important < 1589973140 45404 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not trying to deliberately break my windows systems at work, they break on their own, or third party software that I install breaks them < 1589974681 804164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1589975148 913366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: The description had an "or" condition, not an "and" condition. < 1589975163 26500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "designed to perform such editorial functions as -- deletion of data". < 1589975189 832145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, yeah, ais523's point on it not actually deleting data is fair enough. < 1589975313 209734 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but dd would modify data < 1589975605 532307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hypothetically, you could be using rm for "rearranging text" if you had a document split across multiple files in a scheme where you include all files and use file name sort order to control how they're arranged. < 1589975637 825625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, my thesis was split to 00_preface.tex, 01_intro.tex and so on, though I don't think I had a wildcard include or anything. < 1589975670 958600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mv maybe more so.) < 1589978116 26976 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1589978196 872741 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1589978197 554805 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1589978545 874072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1589978624 328511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1589978815 906193 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1589978847 842044 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.207.109 JOIN :#esoteric > 1589979206 53709 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tree14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72546&oldid=21620 5* 03Felipesabino 5* (+96) 10Added reference to Typescript implementation < 1589979217 280668 :gnu-nobody!~a@24.133.64.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1589979521 520246 :adu!~arobbins@c-73-129-154-238.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1589980170 308047 :gnu-nobody!~a@24.133.64.54 JOIN :#esoteric 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*/ > 1589984503 448446 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ChuckScript14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72552&oldid=51226 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-42) 10/* Examples */ make the examples not go off the page > 1589984568 460359 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clementine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72553&oldid=72532 5* 03Orby 5* (+2) 10/* Simple translation to Underload */ > 1589984858 471095 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:InfiniteDonuts14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72554&oldid=72164 5* 03InfiniteDonuts 5* (+91) 10 > 1589985039 410984 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clementine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72555&oldid=72553 5* 03Orby 5* (+18) 10 > 1589985065 834948 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clementine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72556&oldid=72555 5* 03Orby 5* (+1) 10/* CLM as a stack based language */ > 1589985782 169191 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clementine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72557&oldid=72556 5* 03Orby 5* (+451) 10 > 1589985860 529410 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clementine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72558&oldid=72557 5* 03Orby 5* (+1) 10/* Open questions */ < 1589985894 613911 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-6-58.79c806.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1589986298 768288 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.6+deb1ubuntu0.2 - http://znc.in < 1589986330 786362 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc JOIN :#esoteric < 1589986760 691112 :zseri!~zseri@ytrizja.de QUIT :Quit: zseri > 1589988018 866776 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07JumpFuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72559&oldid=22807 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+52) 10/* Implementations */ cats > 1589988598 852038 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07There Once was a Fish Named Fred14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72560&oldid=42985 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+335) 10/* Hello world */ interpreter > 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not updated to match. < 1590003461 601027 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/gn7kcr/a_sequence_you_definitely_wont_find_in_oeis_395/ < 1590003471 152063 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a(n) is the lowest positive number that does not appear in position n in any OEIS sequence: < 1590003780 119355 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a(n) is A[n](n)+1 <-- at least make it stable under extensions of OEIS. < 1590003822 469615 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/it/the existing entries/ > 1590004026 913298 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deadfish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72574&oldid=72383 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+4) 10/* Seabass */ < 1590004028 281671 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-123.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: that is in the OEIS I think < 1590004058 993005 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1590004372 551754 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:rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1590005591 577749 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Underload14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72586&oldid=65895 5* 03Orby 5* (+16) 10Added Clementine to influenced list < 1590005796 31424 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1590006907 932483 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1590007225 801789 :gnu-nobody!~a@24.133.64.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1590008717 229975 :adu!~arobbins@c-73-129-154-238.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu > 1590008875 789003 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07COD14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=72587 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+3793) 10Created page with "'''COD''' is a [[:Category:Two-dimensional languages|two-dimensional]] esolang by [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow]]. 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