00:29:51 -!- A35 has joined. 00:30:58 fungot: Sdofg 00:30:59 A35: r2q2 is the wind behind my back. i use ultraedit and notepad++.) 00:31:21 fungot: Who invented Sdofg? 00:31:21 A35: the option type is a type ( stm t), what should i say 00:31:34 fungot: Why did they invent Sdofg? 00:31:34 A35: hmm you're right caseium... pltcollects doesn't work anything like a union in java. some people here have websites in dmoz? 00:32:13 fungot: How does Sfofg work like? 00:32:13 A35: the moral of the story but the whole point of this thing called ' considering going outside' 00:33:20 I didn't know how Sdofg was useful in the first place. 00:34:05 fungot: Do you like to get recorded into the logs? 00:34:52 fungot: Got↔Fun 00:36:27 -!- A35 has left. 00:36:51 -!- the has joined. 00:38:25 I chose the most frequent English word as my name. 00:38:42 This enables me to be nosy about every single message. 00:39:52 Wait, I start to get notifications from one year ago! 00:44:12 When an edit is started, if you click preview, the edit is modified by a bot. 00:44:33 If you submit the edit though, your content is being edited by another bot. 00:44:49 You consistently recieve edits to your userpages by bots. 00:45:10 Unfortunately the system has hid all these bot edits because you've turned them off. 00:45:44 Once these bots edit your computer's memory you won't be able to edit anymore. 00:46:21 These bots don't exist in any memory and always affects you. 00:46:55 Which means that you can not use any software to delete them. 00:48:09 Since I'm basically saying nonsense I'd invite fungot. 00:48:09 the: i have ironed my shirt once already today, minion! 00:48:55 For example, Bots like fungot don't really exist anywhere but on the Internet. 00:48:56 the: and it's some unicode char like _ but at the moment, so i can fold them into a memory address 00:49:15 If you try to search for fungot in your computer you won't be able to find anything. 00:49:16 the: you could do it 00:50:02 However, these bots are really powerful. E.g. fungot has already posted 1 million messages here already! 00:50:02 the: lemme check if i'm just an outsider, eh :-p) if that's what you told 00:51:00 Although you only see fungot posting inside the chatroom, they secretly edit wiki pages! 00:51:43 Like most other bots, fungot randomly edits wiki pages without the system's notice. 00:52:44 Don't believe it? If you drag fungot's username onto the Desktop your computer will immediately be unusable. 01:06:10 Are you using Windows? 01:11:49 zzo38: Yes. 01:12:14 Well, that explains it, then. 01:12:40 Explains what? 01:13:09 Why if you drag fungot's username onto the Desktop your computer will immediately be unusable. 01:13:09 zzo38: so actors don't get access to those nice macros to help make an icfp contest team? ( you're on both channels, i see 01:13:20 I use Linux, so there is no "Desktop", so it doesn't apply to me. 01:14:18 zzo38: I was just saying nonsense. Before that message I verified twice to make sure that the username is not draggable. 01:14:39 Even if you dragged it, it will pretty much do nothing to your computer. 01:14:58 That depends what IRC client you are using whether or not it is draggable, I think. 01:17:34 (Although I don't know if any IRC client allows dragging usernames) 01:23:22 Do you like custom Magic: the Gathering cards and puzzles? 01:24:33 I dislike esolangs in general. 01:25:15 Other than, for some reason, golfing languages. 01:25:39 O. Well, there are a few golfing languages. 01:29:41 -!- are has joined. 01:33:51 zzo38: Go ahead. 01:34:10 Go ahead to do what? 01:34:58 zzo38: What's your purpose of mentioning "there are a few golfing languages" then? 01:35:40 There is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Golfing_language 01:35:51 (or make up your own) 01:35:51 if you dislike esolangs, why are you here. 01:36:18 Code golf can be made with other programming languages too, though. 01:36:35 imode: yes? 01:41:01 -!- the has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:46:01 -!- are has changed nick to the. 01:52:18 -!- the has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:08:11 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 02:09:40 Goodness it has been a long time since I actually esolanged. 02:20:34 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 02:46:10 Will you do again today, though? 02:59:58 idk, maybe 03:00:13 It's hard working up the energy for more tech stuff after spending a day job doing tech stuff 03:00:48 And frankly Kubernetes-brand YAML feels like an esolang some days 03:37:43 [[Octo]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=71081 * Apollyon094 * (+2151) Created page with "{{lowercase}} {{infobox proglang |name=Octal Composite Turing-complete OISCs |author=[[Asher I]] |year=[[:Category:2020|2020]] |memsys=tape-based |dimensions=one-dimensional |..." 03:38:38 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71082&oldid=71081 * Apollyon094 * (-16) 03:39:09 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71083&oldid=71082 * Apollyon094 * (-24) 03:39:32 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71084&oldid=71083 * Apollyon094 * (+8) 03:40:23 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71085&oldid=71084 * Apollyon094 * (+0) 03:40:46 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71086&oldid=71085 * Apollyon094 * (+13) 03:41:36 [[Asher I]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=71087 * Apollyon094 * (+30) Redirected page to [[User:Apollyon094]] 03:43:08 [[User:Apollyon094]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71088&oldid=70438 * Apollyon094 * (+86) 03:44:01 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71089&oldid=71086 * Apollyon094 * (+0) 03:44:15 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71090&oldid=71089 * Apollyon094 * (+0) 03:44:34 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71091&oldid=71090 * Apollyon094 * (+1) 03:45:25 [[User:Apollyon094]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71092&oldid=71088 * Apollyon094 * (+113) 03:53:02 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71093&oldid=71091 * Apollyon094 * (+114) 03:53:20 [[Octo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71094&oldid=71093 * Apollyon094 * (+1) 04:39:05 -!- imode has joined. 04:40:43 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Watermelon3D * New user account 04:44:17 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71095&oldid=71060 * Watermelon3D * (+163) /* Introductions */ 04:56:57 The Wikipedia page on FRACTRAN feels so much more illuminating than the esolang wiki page 05:17:50 [[FishScript]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=71096 * Watermelon3D * (+4904) FishScript is a fish-based language. 05:52:44 -!- kspalaiologos has joined. 06:24:50 -!- konrads has joined. 06:26:25 [[FishScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71097&oldid=71096 * Watermelon3D * (+153) 06:26:25 -!- konrads has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:28:25 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:29:07 [[FishScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71098&oldid=71097 * Watermelon3D * (+23) 06:35:15 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 06:52:32 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: rebooting). 07:37:24 -!- FreeFull has joined. 07:59:25 -!- shinh_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:03:02 -!- shinh has joined. 08:57:23 `ioccclist http://www.ioccc.org/index.html Due to current world events, we are extending the 27th IOCCC until 2020-May-15 06:26:49 UTC 08:57:24 ioccclist http://www.ioccc.org/index.html Due to current world events, we are extending the 27th IOCCC until 2020-May-15 06:26:49 UTC: b_jonas rain2 rain1 09:02:38 oh kspalaiologos found my easter-egg 09:02:56 hmm? 09:03:03 the one about eggplants? 09:03:06 the one I planted in the topic :P 09:03:12 :P 09:03:20 ya got anymore of them? 09:03:26 (that's why it has a hyphen) 09:04:02 Well the 5th word is also egg-inspired. 09:05:02 But Easter is over, so maybe it's just egg-spired now. 09:07:02 Egg-spire sounds like a Minecraft construction. 09:08:09 hmm, stacking eggs 09:08:49 maybe you could build a bridge out of eggs and then you could walk on eggshells 09:18:31 [[PureBrainz]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71099&oldid=71070 * Sinjoro * (+21) /* Commands */ 09:21:28 b_jonas: alternative idea: we are established in the ever moving now 09:29:35 -!- b_jonas has quit (Quit: leaving). 09:40:59 Taneb: the twist to that story is, maybe it's not moving at all. 09:42:09 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 09:44:31 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:44:31 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 10:05:10 . o O ( Modern clickbait... "10 things you don't care about and never will" ) 10:23:27 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 10:33:44 https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2020/04/finally-we-may-have-a-path-to-the-fundamental-theory-of-physics-and-its-beautiful/ 10:35:49 zzo38: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/comprehensive-rules-changes-2020-04-10 10:36:01 it mentions fuse counters explicitly 10:36:44 fuses 10:36:56 re https://esolangs.org/logs/2020-04-02.html#lkc 10:38:46 . o O ( "As long as this card is in play, "fuse" is a valid counter subtype." ) 10:42:45 also, lands printed with three basic land types 10:46:37 -!- rain1 has quit (Quit: leaving). 10:47:51 -!- izabera_ has changed nick to izabera. 10:50:37 . o O ( L-systems failed to describe nature... let's try graph rewriting instead. ) 11:33:45 -!- LKoen has joined. 11:34:28 `quote Stephen Wolfram 11:34:29 No output. 11:43:43 -!- Kiwi61 has joined. 11:44:00 -!- Kiwi61 has left. 11:45:14 -!- Kiwi61 has joined. 11:45:40 -!- Kiwi61 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:55:03 `quote wolfram 11:55:04 618) wolfram armageddon, the genius overlord game \ 1027) would not be surprised to find out this tumblr is guerilla marketing by wolfram co to sell mathematica to stoners \ 1105) i find some deep satisfaction in the fact that the legacy wolfram will leave is as the man who made calculus homework orders of magnitude easier 12:07:48 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71100&oldid=71053 * Watermelon3D * (+17) /* F */ 12:10:16 [[User:Watermelon3D]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=71101 * Watermelon3D * (+41) Created page with "hi i am water melon i made [[FishScript]]" 12:17:23 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:35:57 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 12:42:55 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 12:49:55 -!- tromp has joined. 13:13:23 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:21:21 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 13:24:10 Good morning all 13:27:15 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 13:54:02 -!- spruit11 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 14:02:45 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Ardie * New user account 14:04:50 -!- arseniiv has joined. 14:07:09 -!- Frater_EST has left. 14:13:31 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71102&oldid=71095 * Ardie * (+194) 14:14:25 [[User talk:Ardie]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=71103 * Ardie * (+45) Created page with "I'm here looking for a language to formalize." 14:19:20 [[User talk:RocketRace]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71104&oldid=69595 * Ardie * (+158) 14:19:37 [[User talk:RocketRace]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71105&oldid=71104 * Ardie * (+2) 14:19:51 [[User talk:Ardie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71106&oldid=71103 * Ardie * (+77) 14:28:31 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow/Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71107&oldid=71080 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+340) /* Examples */ 14:29:55 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow/Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71108&oldid=71107 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+3) /* Truth-machine */ 14:33:20 -!- spruit11 has joined. 14:34:27 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow/Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71109&oldid=71108 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+390) /* Variable Def */ 15:23:22 -!- imode has joined. 15:25:43 int-e: do you know how our BB programs deal with (\1 1) (\\1 (2 2)) ? 15:29:01 wib_jonas: I have seen that. However, I should wait to see when the rules are actually published, to know what they are (although about mutate and companion is mainly what I want to look for; my questions about ability counters have been answered in that document already) 15:29:23 tromp: that's just a simple loop? 15:29:56 tromp: T = (\\1 (2 2)), T T -> \1 (T T) and the (T T) is the next redex. 15:30:55 zzo38: as for the new rules for mutate and companion, the release notes tells most of that: "https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/ikoria-lair-behemoths-and-commander-2020-edition-release-notes-2020-04-10" 15:32:08 the pau day is 06-10 (recalculated from 04-71) 15:32:52 int-e: Easter isn't over. 15:32:57 int-e: but it's not detected with isW ? 15:33:22 wib_jonas: O, I didn't see that. Now I can see. 15:37:01 tromp: it shouldn't be. 15:37:02 In the past I have generalized haunt, so that cards that are now haunt will become "haunt creature", but allowing new haunt cards to haunt other objects and/or players (it is not limited to permanents). So I thought also of a similar thing with mutate, where existing mutate becomes "mutate non-Human creature" (mutate is limited to permanents, though). 15:37:38 int-e: and it's not detected with r `S.member` s ? 15:38:02 tromp: it should be detected there. 15:39:10 i thought s collects the whole terms in a reduction 15:39:39 It collects redexes... the T T redex, which occurs again. 15:43:29 ah, I see 15:43:53 The "unusual situations" described for mutate seem to follow from the other rules, merely being clarification. 15:45:35 -!- ArthurStrong has joined. 15:46:48 int-e: after hacking my program, it reports (\1 1) (\1 (1 (\\1 1) 1)) as unknown, which i didn't see before 15:47:32 doesn't come up as TODO in yours either 15:47:57 I think I have seen that one before 15:48:31 +-- TODO: (\1 1) (\1 (1 (\1) 1) 1) 15:48:38 from the first BB.txt commit. 15:48:47 So, that's different. 15:49:52 that has id in it, this has (K double) in it 15:49:52 tromp: But I have seen quite a bit of trouble resulting from interaction of the loop detection and simplification. 15:50:01 17:48:47 So, that's different. 15:51:15 Also I'm not working on any of this right now. 15:53:21 Even if fuse counters did grant fuse, fuse isn't a meaningful ability for permanents anyways. But I still like explicit ability counters such as "flying ability counter" instead. 15:56:52 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:58:04 zzo38: yes, the echo counters were slightly more worrying to me. but the update bullet says that it clears that up. 15:59:01 -!- LKoen has joined. 15:59:46 zzo38: I don't like that wording though. "flying ability counter" sounds ok, but it sounds worse with some of the other relevant keyword abilities 16:05:43 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:08:55 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Quit: Connection closed). 16:12:07 -!- b_jonas has joined. 16:18:56 should we put the IOCCC news to the topic? 16:19:02 wib_jonas: Another possibility is to add quotation marks if it doesn't look good without it, I suppose. (This would also be used for parameterized keyword abilities and that stuff) 16:19:32 I guess that's old news, it's dated to three weeks before now 16:19:38 s/before now/ago/ 16:35:53 zzo38: another possibility would be to call them something other than "counters", even if they mostly behave like counters, which would be useful because "counter" is an overloaded word anyway 16:36:16 Yes, perhaps. But I don't know what to call it. 16:38:46 Also, even if I use that in my unofficial cards I probably would not change it, since I don't want to make too many major incompatible changes to existing rules. 16:40:26 zzo38: they need not be incompatible if you say that it's just a different wording, like a synonym 16:41:48 an incompatibility would be when a game situation that can come up in both your variant and vanilla diverges to a different game state 16:43:58 O, OK. 16:49:07 on the plus side, we finally have payoff for the old rules change that turned lifelink to be no longer a trigger on the damage 16:50:46 Ikoria has lifelink counters, and multiple of them on the are mostly redundant (except to costs or effects that consume an arbitrary counter from a permanent, eg. Medicine Runner or Power Conduit) 17:02:45 Yes, although there are other advantages to that change of lifelink too 17:06:34 zzo38: sure: surviving combat more often because you gain life from your lifelink blocker knights the same time as you lose life from the opponent's creatures combat damage 17:14:46 Maybe "rune" can mean ability counter. (I think I have seen some other games using "rune" in this way. 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