< 1579996808 249012 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesnt solve any problem i have, im sorry that makes me "crazy" < 1579996828 9054 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am "crazy" to expect real solutions to real problems < 1579996867 639169 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :boy howdy, you sure proved me wrong, with all those multinational enterprises not solving real problems and such. < 1579996877 713109 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody's playing games except for you, I'm sure. < 1579996910 108139 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they solve enterprise problems, i can focus on individuals, boy howdy < 1579996942 244466 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the individuals you don't interact with. < 1579996944 847428 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao. < 1579996954 208374 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of incompatible encodings. < 1579996958 922327 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your just trolling < 1579996965 841330 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the shoe fits. < 1579997009 202108 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, either people exist to serve multinationals or multinationals exist to serve people; i am in the latter camp < 1579997033 87651 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck does that have to do with an encoding standard. < 1579997050 953111 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a conspiracy theorist. or have some kind of paranoid delusion at the intent of unicode. < 1579997079 798981 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :like why is this the hill you die on. < 1579997169 937545 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1579997223 57092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not expect that has anything to do with the encoding, although I do think that Unicode is too messy. < 1579997373 602722 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1579997374 896506 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1579999125 208044 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not my job to come up with standards for your business enterprises imode < 1579999137 479307 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not a "problem" i have < 1579999315 775236 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :figuring out what you're talking about has now become unfun. < 1579999321 105825 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1579999417 701745 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.7 < 1580000091 545003 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1580000145 373927 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi everyone! < 1580000307 317029 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do someone know where to go if we want to change a pseudo on the wiki? < 1580000402 726357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean changing a username, or something completely different? < 1580000444 444284 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, changing the username < 1580000460 462749 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to revive one of my old creations < 1580000506 340237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should still be able to edit the old files regardless of the username, though. < 1580000516 429411 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah i know < 1580000536 984815 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my username is linked to a past which i'm no longer proud of < 1580000564 457649 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I try to do that at the same time < 1580000629 248785 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:00 < kingoffrance> if it doesnt solve any problem i have, im sorry that makes me "crazy" < 1580000636 172697 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if you only read/write english < 1580000644 878976 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without any fancy punctuation or math characters or anything < 1580000647 68460 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then ASCII is fine > 1580000656 650478 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Lebster/sandbox14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=69341 5* 03Lebster 5* (+1) 10Created page with "." < 1580000657 858879 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :many people in the world — most in fact — have a daily need to use characters that aren't in ASCII < 1580000701 516250 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you can blame multinational corporations for the fact that not everyone speaks english < 1580000705 598914 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure they'd rather that were the case :P < 1580000706 582539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rerednaw: Is that a past on the wiki, or past somewhere else? Because changing the username with the Renameuser extension will also update page histories and everything. < 1580000709 576864 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes Unicode has a lot of complexity, and some of it is due to unfortunate historical reasons < 1580000710 171951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rerednaw: I guess, what I'm trying to ask is, what specifically would you be wanting to do regarding usernames on the wiki. < 1580000730 781550 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a lot of it is due to the fact that Unicode wants to be truly universal < 1580000739 140432 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means one system that solves (as close as possible) *everyone's* problems < 1580000743 617165 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is valuable because < 1580000751 771318 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we want to read documents written by others < 1580000762 597912 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very convenient for the world to standardize on one way of representing text < 1580000772 324602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The key to failure is trying to please everyone. < 1580000772 701368 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if that one way is necessarily pretty complicated < 1580000774 637960 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My old pseudo (BoutonIA) is linked to other activities I've done on Internet < 1580000778 994362 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly a lot better than the old way < 1580000780 740150 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1580000795 727444 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wold like to change the whole pseudo < 1580000872 893500 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1580000910 579779 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1580000915 159876 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry was disconnected < 1580000996 828156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rerednaw: In that case, I guess Renameuser is right for you. But it's restricted to wiki admins, and I may not even have enabled it. Could you leave a comment on, say, https://esolangs.org/wiki/User_talk:Fizzie using that existing account stating what you want it to be renamed to, just to prove that you have control over it? < 1580001052 466652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or using the "Email this user" function from the wiki if you don't want it public, I think that also shows which user sent the message. < 1580001087 771817 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay I'll do it, thanks for the help! > 1580001594 914626 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Lebster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69342&oldid=69294 5* 03Lebster 5* (-4) 10 > 1580001692 460237 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07StupidStackLanguage14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69343&oldid=69340 5* 03Lebster 5* (-26) 10updated header scale > 1580001756 839053 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rogex14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69344&oldid=69119 5* 03Lebster 5* (-26) 10updated header scale > 1580001769 702129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Fizzie14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69345&oldid=66258 5* 03BoutonIA 5* (+265) 10 > 1580001773 786717 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07!!Fuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69346&oldid=69318 5* 03Lebster 5* (-4) 10 > 1580001789 909367 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DetailedFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69347&oldid=69328 5* 03Lebster 5* (-4) 10updated header scales > 1580001796 546592 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Fizzie14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69348&oldid=69345 5* 03BoutonIA 5* (-2) 10/* Request to change my username */ Change to big title > 1580001814 806378 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DetailedFuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69349&oldid=69347 5* 03Lebster 5* (+3) 10grammar > 1580001893 784138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:BoutonIA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69350&oldid=56308 5* 03BoutonIA 5* (-107) 10 < 1580001995 798053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rerednaw: I'll give it a go. It may or may not cause you to log out. (MediaWiki is a mystery.) > 1580002032 719430 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10moved [[02User:BoutonIA10]] to [[User:Rerednaw]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[User:BoutonIA|BoutonIA]]" to "[[User:Rerednaw|Rerednaw]]" > 1580002032 729174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/renameuser14]]4 renameuser10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5* 10Fizzie renamed user [[02User:BoutonIA10]] (49 edits) to [[User:Rerednaw]]: Requested by the user. < 1580002068 453001 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I verified, it works perfectly! < 1580002081 577849 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks again for all the help < 1580002095 632033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't update links, so you may want to edit those on CopyPasta Language and BSoD. < 1580002119 986937 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, i'll do it! > 1580002153 780080 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CopyPasta Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69352&oldid=66454 5* 03Rerednaw 5* (+0) 10Change of username > 1580002311 445548 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CopyPasta Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69353&oldid=69352 5* 03Rerednaw 5* (-101) 10Delete the old deadlike, since I have no longer the files > 1580002352 653378 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BSoD14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69354&oldid=56309 5* 03Rerednaw 5* (+0) 10Change of password > 1580002405 329123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BSoD14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69355&oldid=69354 5* 03Rerednaw 5* (-126) 10Delete the old deadlike, since I have no longer the files > 1580002535 854444 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07LSCEF14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=69356 5* 03Lebster 5* (+2302) 10created page > 1580002576 44701 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Lebster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69357&oldid=69342 5* 03Lebster 5* (+30) 10+LSCEF > 1580002719 963268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07LSCEF14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69358&oldid=69356 5* 03Lebster 5* (+39) 10encodings for ` &  < 1580003267 26120 :Rerednaw!5243b74f@nsg93-1-82-67-183-79.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1580003601 885439 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1580004047 877539 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip QUIT :Quit: This page is intentionally left blank. < 1580004632 409123 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1580004915 123284 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt mean to be rude, but i dont think i am wrong to imply at least utf8 was commercially-inspired https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/utf-8-history.txt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X/Open look at the list of organizations: all giants, not exactly "hobbyist" target audience < 1580004935 313045 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the unix trademark thing :/ not something i am shooting for < 1580005000 818110 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think i am stretching to assume they designed something to fit their needs, not mine < 1580005115 620579 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how many of these unix vendors are gone, or "irrelevant" to most people in the "unix" space < 1580005296 467145 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many non-commercial orgs do you see on those pages? < 1580005873 274416 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: i'm very curious to hear about how you made your own computer without using anything produced by a corporation < 1580005890 225731 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell imode Re: usability of Tue with nonlocal matches -- you could conveniently implement multi-tape TMs then, which I believe is quite a boost in convenience. < 1580005890 508938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1580005901 501952 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell imode I mean Thue of course. < 1580005901 821505 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1580005932 78242 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kingoffrance < 1580005935 576481 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1580005957 762081 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's great for you if you don't have to solve any of the complicated problems that unicode solves < 1580005962 384891 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sincerely happy for you < 1580005965 605408 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Kingoffrance is what happens when you cross zzo38 with a conspiracy theorist. < 1580005968 181447 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'kingoffrance': Kingoffrance is what happens when you cross zzo38 with a conspiracy theorist. < 1580006001 326094 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or is that too unfair to zzo38...) < 1580006073 920590 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems kind of like complaining that pet stores exist because you don't own a dog so you have no use for them < 1580006077 34551 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but okay < 1580006122 794895 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: 1) You don't matter. 2) Yes, big corporations are not out to solve your problems. 3) Citing UTF-8 as an example for that is ridiculous. 4) No I don't want to discuss any of this. < 1580006133 805915 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :harsh < 1580006134 953679 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fair < 1580006605 898908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It doesn't matter if it is unfair to me or not, I think. < 1580006802 634952 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well I'm usually aiming for a tease, not for an outright offense... so if I've crossed that line the entry should be deleted. < 1580006899 880765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I like freedom of speech, so I think that it is OK how it is. < 1580007838 760810 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e : sure, re: 2) but i was noting the hypocrisy of somehow i am supposed to solve theirs :/ for free :/ just cuz :/ < 1580007869 88597 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i consider "trolling" < 1580008271 737888 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are plenty of reasons to be upset at big corporations; UTF-8 is not one of them < 1580008280 290537 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since you haven't given a single specific thing you dislike about it < 1580009175 738307 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1580009345 46009 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII was created by big private organizations. < 1580009379 548824 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: figured as much. suddenly orchestrating things with multiple cursors becomes so much easier. < 1580010015 952123 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am, however, quite flattered that people think i simultaneously dont matter and should write a competing standard for commercial orgs to follow; it makes me feel very quantum < 1580010043 44402 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, is how i really feel < 1580010061 874468 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you should write a competing standard. I think you should think before you speak about the suitability of a standard to your limited prospects. < 1580010087 224248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to do disk image swapping in DOSBOX? < 1580010095 14552 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the "you don't matter", yeah, you don't. none of us here have any influence over standards adoption. < 1580010140 312771 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I believe CTRL+F4? < 1580010150 800990 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :see https://www.dosbox.com/wiki/IMGMOUNT < 1580010222 251516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says using multiple files is only supported for cue/iso images, but I am trying to mount a floppy disk image < 1580010254 35250 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1580010450 668395 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like you can do something with the `boot` command, but yeah, it's not supported in the main builds of DOSBox.. < 1580010452 867082 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird. < 1580010808 195301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will try to just copy the files from the disk images all into one directory and see if that works. < 1580010873 984381 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: could it have something to do with CD-ROMs being read-only... < 1580010903 328903 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than likely, yeah. partial writes are a bitch. < 1580011097 34392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, that didn't work. It requires either the original disk or a copy onto the same type of disk; it won't work if the installation files are in the hard drive, even if SUBST is used. < 1580011099 574080 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was the last time you've heard the term "webcast"? < 1580011564 372460 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 years ago. < 1580011882 770336 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like a steve jobs thing (person a) im not sure one-size-fits all (person b) come up with a new one-size-fits-all standard then (person a) that's not what i said (person b) i'm sorry, did i act like you matter? i meant to say you don't matter < 1580011892 250414 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ghost of steve jobs < 1580011897 508150 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so i've heard < 1580017570 472433 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-171-136.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1580018028 390559 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip JOIN :#esoteric > 1580018503 79221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Lebster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69359&oldid=68517 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+173) 10/* Howdy! */ new section < 1580022531 823366 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip QUIT :Quit: This page is intentionally left blank. < 1580022646 702955 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1580023318 429643 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1580023841 303494 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1580024704 727440 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1580025831 528970 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing i can say is commercial stuff is "the other type of esoteric" by its very nature, that type of law always has been thus, and i dont wish to infect my work with their timeframes as much as possible; if they somehow changed their definition of "time" maybe we would have more common ground < 1580029170 242758 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1580030833 760876 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1580031092 745999 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1580032146 684213 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1580032302 602426 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580033258 513529 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1580033347 109510 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1580034426 195283 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yraznzixtaenvfhg JOIN :#esoteric > 1580035706 290644 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nix14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69360&oldid=47213 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+103) 10Categories > 1580035797 765645 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nix14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69361&oldid=69360 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+10) 10Fixed 2d category > 1580036146 523630 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bootstrap14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69362&oldid=68970 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+9) 10Added {{stub}} > 1580036368 276164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07And then14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69363&oldid=66523 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+9) 10Removed stub tag, replaced with joke tag. Seems like a complete description of the lang; nothing else need be said. > 1580037201 403504 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07QUOTE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69364&oldid=30825 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+296) 10 > 1580037380 330262 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07QUOTE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69365&oldid=69364 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-79) 10Found more info > 1580038146 402048 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07QIRAML14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=69366 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+336) 10Created page with "{{stub}} '''QIRAML''', pronounced similar to "caramel", stands for ''QIRAML Isn't Really A Markup Language''. The language is the successor to [[QUOTE]], and is used to prepro..." > 1580038765 815305 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07!Tautologos14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69367&oldid=65160 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+8) 10Made things a link solely so I could click them right now > 1580038793 492404 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07!Tautologos14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69368&oldid=69367 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-18) 10Reformatted links > 1580038982 903072 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Decision tree14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69369&oldid=44782 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+22) 10Added this to one of my favourite categories. (No, not stubs!) > 1580039268 375133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Treeng14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69370&oldid=67744 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+67) 10Added a clarification > 1580039313 298268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Treeng14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69371&oldid=69370 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+4) 10Added link to [[graph]] < 1580039330 679124 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1580040489 612310 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580040591 176630 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1580040591 388701 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1580040905 870542 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cixl14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69372&oldid=68968 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+12) 10Added links > 1580041624 931158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:ESON14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69373&oldid=67242 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+229) 10 > 1580042089 825878 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ESON14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69374&oldid=45834 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+42) 10Fixed typos > 1580042133 130596 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ESON14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69375&oldid=69374 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+34) 10Added a category < 1580042204 825547 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yraznzixtaenvfhg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1580042230 218897 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ESON14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69376&oldid=69375 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+25) 10/* Commands */ Formatted the rest of the escape sequences > 1580042253 328197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ESON14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69377&oldid=69376 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+1) 10Fixed formatting > 1580043397 507877 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Lebster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69378&oldid=69359 5* 03Lebster 5* (+102) 10/* Howdy! */ > 1580044217 46325 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DetailedFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69379&oldid=69349 5* 03Lebster 5* (-333) 10 > 1580044314 161930 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DetailedFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69380&oldid=69379 5* 03Lebster 5* (+69) 10 > 1580045189 297451 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Line Feed14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69381&oldid=69290 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+35) 10 < 1580045197 434156 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.10.21.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric > 1580045238 591497 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07LogicF---14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69382&oldid=69289 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+35) 10 < 1580048664 631120 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.9.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580049002 125385 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-171-136.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1580049925 697100 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07HaltJS14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=69383 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+687) 10Created page with "'''HaltJS''' is a language created by [[User:Pythonshelldebugwindow]]. ==Syntax== HaltJS has a syntax identical to that of JavaScript, with one major limitation: whenever the..." > 1580049943 703263 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07HaltJS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69384&oldid=69383 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+2) 10 < 1580051350 333747 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-171-136.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1580052658 960342 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.9.20 QUIT :Quit: *smoke bomb* < 1580053188 598899 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.9.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580054123 927414 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.9.20 QUIT :Quit: *smoke bomb* < 1580054358 781092 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.9.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580054547 914332 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.9.20 QUIT :Client Quit < 1580057240 440707 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580059806 194015 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1580060595 430242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1580064327 76128 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1580064479 540549 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07StupidStackLanguage14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69385&oldid=69343 5* 03Lebster 5* (+215) 10added "Print the Fibonacci Sequence" < 1580064685 129069 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-95-129.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1580064723 650802 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-95-129.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1580065095 379217 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580066534 161424 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:38a1:3861:b103:5507 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580066608 244055 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-95-129.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1580066986 830067 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1580066995 998201 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1580067168 876202 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1580067526 149725 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Quit: quit < 1580068018 52023 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580068119 69847 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1580068315 43049 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1580068404 622535 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1580069672 782243 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dillema is i come from a land before open source and free software were "fused"; so i get along fine with 1) people not wanting to fuse with gpl (bsd) 2) gpl people (who arent zealots) i only have problems with commercial people trying to "fuse" into my non-commercialness, which always fails :/ < 1580069679 746221 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i come from a "freenode" before thus took place < 1580069698 872329 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that is the root of all my disagreements with people < 1580069727 442200 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello kingoffrance < 1580069744 324765 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greetings < 1580069758 869123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way (GPL or BSD) it is still free software and open source software. However, I just dislike copyright in general, so I release everything to public domain < 1580069765 345840 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey zzo38 < 1580069767 875868 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, thats what i think i will do < 1580070097 424814 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can do CC0, which is like public domain but with a bunch of extra words to make it like public domain even in places where "public domain" isn't a thing < 1580070153 972519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another variant I have seen is < 1580070163 359899 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have yo thought about quantum computing < 1580070200 63237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another variant I have seen is dual licensing by MIT license and CC0. I have also seen MIT license with an extra clause saying any Discordian pope may grant themself a license to use WTFPL. < 1580070334 902926 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1580070354 554508 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is just designed to annoy lawyers while putting hackers at ease < 1580070355 803284 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1580070362 904627 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1580070399 135370 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1580070536 84691 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1580071261 455083 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think people realize the genuis of such; its like parody of a parody of a parody in a sense; i cant explain here, but ...they did their homework < 1580071683 316788 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i consider such genius feats of "practical reverse engineering" < 1580071733 361570 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-psqyrczbvizkochy PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite does something similar < 1580071822 7767 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-psqyrczbvizkochy PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.hwaci.com/cgi-bin/license-step1 < 1580072287 99385 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the technique is known as taking the piss. < 1580072894 874448 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1580073129 181254 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1580074054 766644 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-171-136.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1580075105 705600 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rogex14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69386&oldid=69344 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+1049) 10/* Online */ > 1580075229 896190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69387&oldid=69194 5* 03Rerednaw 5* (+1) 10/* CopyPasta Language */ Missing an exclamation point < 1580076841 264224 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” > 1580076859 665062 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CopyPasta Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69388&oldid=69353 5* 03Rerednaw 5* (+0) 10Change a bit the Hello, World < 1580078368 203866 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1580082215 153978 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how fast you can make Thue. wonder if you can make it compete with C. < 1580082258 773925 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, what's the theoretical limit here that doesn't involve bringing in multiprocessing. < 1580082312 577515 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not gonna outshoot something that compiles down to machine code, but you could probably hit a sweet spot like Forths do. < 1580082615 480845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you convert a JPEG file into another format and then reencode it as JPEG with the same settings without making it more lossy if the picture hasn't changed and the original JPEG file is lost? < 1580082820 878889 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a question that should be answered by attempting it tbh. I wanna say no. < 1580082860 250879 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :JPEG is lossy, and if you do something like JPEG <-> PNG <-> JPEG, it's a form of generational noise. < 1580082881 112272 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_loss < 1580082994 740780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But shouldn't there be some way of making an encoder that supports doing it without further loss (as long as the colour space and quantization tables match the original)? > 1580083084 490839 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:ESON14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69389&oldid=69373 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+480) 10/* Binary trees in single commands */ new section > 1580083108 380558 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ESON14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69390&oldid=69377 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+747) 10/* Commands */ Added commands for binary trees, general trees, directed graphs and undirected graphs. > 1580083133 655077 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ESON14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69391&oldid=69390 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+3) 10Fixed formatting of table < 1580083142 193058 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying if you have a JPEG, you convert it to a PNG, you want to transcode that back into a JPEG without any loss of data? < 1580083191 24969 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: Yes; assume that I know what colour space and quantization tables were used in the original JPEG file (since they may need to match in order to allow it to be reencoded without any further loss)