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19:27:52 <arseniiv> can’t think up an eso type system. Any interesting type system invented as already somewhat eso, or take Haskell type-level hackery for example
19:30:19 <arseniiv> so I’m just blocked because I think I can’t make an at least a bit useful typing not bearing resemblance to one which is used for good in some famous production-ready language
19:30:29 <arseniiv> so that won’t be cool at all
19:31:24 <arseniiv> hm this reminds me things shouldn’t be done this way, that probably shouldn’t be a goal in itself
19:37:26 <arseniiv> one day I came up with a strange little type system was when I eyed up recursive functions formalism once again and assigned each function a type m if it takes m arguments, but because I overgeneralized one part, it was needed to consider types ≥m for one could construct a constant function of unspecified number of arguments and then add nonfictive arguments later. Then I fixed the formulation and ≥m types vanished. They didn’t have any uses, th
19:37:26 <arseniiv> ough they made an interesting subtyping lattice
19:38:59 <arseniiv> so overall that was a dead end but when it would be nice if that thing would find some use. But it won’t
19:39:17 <arseniiv> s/when it/it
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19:41:03 <b_jonas> yes, Haskell with modern extensions has a crazy complicated type system
19:41:18 <b_jonas> so does rust
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20:36:02 <arseniiv> b_jonas: hm you gave me a minor idea: we could add eso-ness by further complicating type error messages. As we know, usual languages usually try to make such messages more friendly at least in frequently occuring cases
20:36:48 <arseniiv> though I partly know INTERCAL had this in part covered. I don’t know how much of its error messages are type errors but it sets the bar pretty high
20:38:07 <arseniiv> and these messages shouldn’t look like really unnecessary complications, they should rise from language’s notions organically, like INTERCAL’s politeness errors because there are too much or not enough `please` statements or something
20:39:21 <arseniiv> (though on the third hand, INTERCAL is pretty outdated in regards to cultural significance so how much up it sets the bar is not that relevant)
20:39:54 <arseniiv> (I mean, it was IIRC mostly a reaction to ALGOL and something like that?)
21:07:16 <b_jonas> arseniiv: if you make a language powerful enough at compile time, like haskell or C++, then people necessarily write programs that abuse that power and are too clever for their own good, and then you get error messages that are hard to understand despite all efforts of the compiler writers.
21:10:18 <arseniiv> b_jonas: yeah I know there can usually be only best-effort fixes, not a fix that would make all error messages immediately clear
21:11:34 <arseniiv> (hm though library writers may meddle with these matters in some cases, so no general compiler fix is needed yet their library would give more adequate error messages)
21:11:51 <b_jonas> and those are usually still better than the error messages you get at runtime segfaults after trashing memory by writing through out of bound indexes or stray pointers
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21:43:12 <esowiki> [[Talk:Brainflow]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=69133 * DmilkaSTD * (+2945) Created page with "== C++ interpreter == #include <iostream> // Variables /* Code: Change this */ unsigned char code[] = ""; unsigned char tape[255]; // Tape unsigned cha..."
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22:01:48 <esowiki> [[Shorten your Brainfuck code]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69139&oldid=57657 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* Read the quastion carefully */ Fixed typo ('quastion' -> 'question')
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22:15:05 <b_jonas> what
22:15:49 <b_jonas> kspalaiologos: are you making sockpuppets on the wiki?
22:16:52 <esowiki> [[BF-ASM:8]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69145&oldid=69144 * DmilkaSTD * (+218)
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22:20:58 <b_jonas> ah no, I retract that
22:21:02 <b_jonas> it's not your sockpuppet
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22:30:13 <b_jonas> it's just someone who also doesn't have much fantasy when it comes to esoteric language names
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