< 1578182641 993517 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a0018ba5b79008f78ac.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1578182660 696332 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a0018ba5b79008f78ac.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1578185813 729403 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spood < 1578185815 640933 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :spood? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1578186223 726886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that? < 1578186226 941359 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spoon < 1578186228 401072 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1578186244 387347 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ladle < 1578186252 109416 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ladle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1578186840 763941 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'd love to know what that is. < 1578186851 137082 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I was the one that said it.. < 1578187006 237782 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a spood is like a snoot but faster < 1578187017 135258 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and less blue < 1578187193 522154 :user24!~user24@p200300C3AF00177621D43DC167D9E2FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1578187209 675037 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lonk < 1578187218 311589 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :lonk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1578187664 370220 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lound < 1578187665 660950 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :lound? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1578189013 722433 :user24!~user24@p200300C3AF00177621D43DC167D9E2FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1578189037 511090 :user24!~user24@p200300C3AF00177621D43DC167D9E2FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric > 1578189753 790402 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keta14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68688&oldid=68686 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+67) 10Changed A's blurb about why Keta exists fo < 1578192740 369193 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vdhlfjvctpcgdwvh JOIN :#esoteric < 1578192873 649611 :user24!~user24@p200300C3AF00177621D43DC167D9E2FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1578193332 670257 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1578193368 810239 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1578195696 980115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1578197367 818582 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a0018ba5b79008f78ac.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1578197447 718105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spood < 1578197450 508743 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :spood? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1578200757 305199 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1578200759 221145 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your omnidryad saddle principal ideal golfing toe-obsessed "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty eldrazi grinch is a punctual expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His arkup-nemesis is mediawiki's default diff. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1578200774 471139 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEso < 1578200776 561349 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEso is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike HackEgo. < 1578200790 956167 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moony < 1578200792 491151 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony is often named the following: moonythedwarf moonythehuman moonheart08 moon moon__ noomy computing and luxon, making porthellos and @tells a real pain. < 1578200830 337353 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moonythedwarf < 1578200831 529054 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1578202384 332721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg moonythedwarf < 1578202386 646620 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1578202393 617956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such thing < 1578203361 407174 :ArthurSt1ong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1578203447 952780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to disable CSS transitions in Firefox? < 1578203567 493682 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1578204279 194707 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more css? (override)? < 1578204303 245649 :ArthurSt1ong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1578204973 134539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can do that, but I want to do it globally < 1578206545 282133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I implemented the "fillspecial" command in TeXnicard, which can be used to draw translucent shapes on the card. (Other effects may be possible in future, but so far the only implemented effect is the /Opacity effect.) < 1578206709 803189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the best way in a C program to send data to an external program and then read the result? I know a few ways, but what is a good way? < 1578206721 956523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Specifically, a C program on Linux) < 1578206884 636744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What newsgroups/IRC can I see if someone else will be interested in my TeXnicard program? < 1578207049 247549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why in rogue you cannot strike an opponent standing in a doorway by a diagonal move? < 1578208576 352779 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose in theory the door would be in the way, but that could go either way < 1578208590 382575 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is no way to query "which way is the door swinging" to my knowledge < 1578211325 287344 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vdhlfjvctpcgdwvh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1578211371 650530 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1578213945 706841 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1578213968 645474 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1578216128 873087 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: write data to a regular file, popen program for reading and pass the regular file to it as an argument or redirect < 1578216198 423075 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think the doorway is implicitly in a narrow corridor that you can only exit straight because it doesn't extend to the corner of its square < 1578216429 286769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1578216591 56934 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hauykgcnwyzdtarh JOIN :#esoteric < 1578220493 695418 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rtubovciqjghedrn QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1578220572 446625 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xgepaxwfivkuvtix JOIN :#esoteric > 1578221565 798032 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:CarlosLuna14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68689&oldid=66112 5* 03CarlosLuna 5* (+5499) 10Adding my /// contributions < 1578223660 324584 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1578225782 328347 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00097e5817e80c66fd.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1578231140 441182 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1578231326 306188 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, here are some arrows: ←↑→↓↔↕↤↥↦↧↨⇐⇒⇔ < 1578231326 647184 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: trolls are described as rubbery: they keep bouncing back. < 1578231353 52872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm pretty sure you just quoted that verbatim. Try to mix it up, will you? < 1578231353 239207 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eyes of the days of morgoth elves and men usurped the sunlight. then with a wand of polymorph. jackal's heart must never be eaten, for the service he had fled the responsibilities of ruling all that was about all they were, i was going to happen to you, don't step on a diet of metals. they are friendly. ( the immortals, by edith hamilton) < 1578231382 680930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a weird book. < 1578231426 830646 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: shoot! < 1578231444 887452 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does unicode have darts? < 1578231465 131186 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 𐃘 < 1578231466 241242 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+100D8 LINEAR B IDEOGRAM B254 DART] < 1578231481 467661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode BOW AND ARROW < 1578231487 863267 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F3F9 BOW AND ARROW \ UTF-8: f0 9f 8f b9 UTF-16BE: d83cdff9 Decimal: 🏹 \ 🏹 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1578231488 389730 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it has so many arrows (a lot, seriously) that some of them are probably darts < 1578231504 315017 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: But that's the only "dart" I found. < 1578231531 372523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a bow-and-arrow character, apparently. :/ < 1578231575 475994 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: https://esolangs.org/logs/2019-10-22.html#lX < 1578231584 621377 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works in firefox... it's one of the abominable colored glyphs. < 1578231615 230282 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Still no dart. < 1578231627 570992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at gucharmap, I have a really spotty coverage of Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs. < 1578231669 113368 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 䈶鏢镖 < 1578231670 213168 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+4236 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-4236] [U+93E2 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-93E2] [U+9556 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-9556] < 1578231690 995461 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have oren's font loaded? < 1578231700 934383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nno. < 1578231705 139269 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? font < 1578231706 729224 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ < 1578231707 252338 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, gucharmap's "match whole word" thinks "dart," is a word. < 1578231756 36414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TWO SPEECH BUBBLES = chat" "THREE SPEECH BUBBLES = conference" < 1578231768 232497 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so "dart" does not find those CJK symbols that have "dart," in their description.) < 1578231783 699365 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOUR SPEECH BUBBLES = tower of babel? < 1578231811 373034 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIVE SPEECH BUBBLES = social media < 1578231834 174773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :📈🗠📉, 📊 < 1578231845 833845 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 📈🗠📉📊 < 1578231850 942484 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F4C8 CHART WITH UPWARDS TREND] [U+1F5E0 STOCK CHART] [U+1F4C9 CHART WITH DOWNWARDS TREND] [U+1F4CA BAR CHART] < 1578231860 725973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, "U+1F573 HOLE = portable hole". < 1578231870 485593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's the character rather than the hole that's portable. < 1578231881 454786 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Bonus points if it's black. < 1578231914 68243 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or otherwise bottomless. < 1578232016 185201 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a Linear B brainfuck clone? I'd imagine that could look kind of cute, especially if you assign several symbols to each operation. < 1578232046 244508 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you mean a Learn B trivial brainfuck substitution? < 1578232062 440732 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Obviously. < 1578232078 448837 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a generic one that assigns a brainfuck command to a lot of unicode characters < 1578232111 343311 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, right, there could be something close to a union-of-all-brainfuck-substitutions. < 1578232119 962470 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :("close" because there's bound to be overlap) < 1578233950 49382 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xgepaxwfivkuvtix QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1578234254 137805 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pqwtftbtkrcmfkzr JOIN :#esoteric < 1578236687 705825 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1578236870 557197 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1578237175 484873 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.34.132.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1578238301 157377 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1578238302 689075 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+F51F - No such unicode character name in database] < 1578238401 257700 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I missed that you rendered "Linear" as "Learn" earlier... was that an accident? < 1578238443 738535 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh... that was an accident < 1578238448 496778 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why I typed that < 1578238457 684686 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably "Learn" is more in my hands than "Linear" < 1578238460 325358 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more common word < 1578238517 731518 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, yesterday I couldn't type "spiny" first try like ten times, because I kept typing it as "spony" and having to backspace < 1578238527 26205 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because "pony" is a word but "piny" is not < 1578238714 63927 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, brains are weird. > 1578238994 864699 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Burlesque14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68690&oldid=45225 5* 03B jonas 5* (+30) 10https://esolangs.org/logs/2019-12-31.html#lyg "also I used it at work [...] my supervisor was shocked" < 1578239056 282897 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, when does GDQ start? < 1578239056 568457 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: they say that some shopkeepers recognize gems but they are quite difficult to grasp. blood-drinking bestiality, voracious appetites, hunger in search of prey, but, instead of teeth; it is saint peter's holy day. if that event takes place, perhaps it was only a humanoid creature can be a now dry little watercourse. bilbo was a time xans would never scratch your boots. < 1578239406 462431 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-111.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1578240226 457892 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-005-215-036.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1578240625 779250 :Panini!~PaniniDev@unaffiliated/panini JOIN :#esoteric < 1578240803 746429 :Panini!~PaniniDev@unaffiliated/panini QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1578241111 573009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Handy, they've added a "detected as X" note to the "all times are converted to your local time" message in the schedule page. < 1578241150 242829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if they could only this time around shade the blocks in the past, highlight the currently running one, put a red line where we're now, or *something* like that. < 1578241678 360855 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that about the GDQ schedule? < 1578241936 541656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1578242089 781616 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but GDQ is sponsored by twitch, so they must go for webpages that are so heavy with client-side scripts that they're impossible to load in anything but a modern computer, even though other pages can show better quality videos easily on the same computer < 1578242101 493029 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't be twitch-like otherwise < 1578242118 753400 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a simple server-side addition of a red line marking the current time wouldn't cut it < 1578242128 156872 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to load a huge javascript library < 1578242211 339050 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why don't the bash builtins pushd and popd have a single-letter switch to quiet their normal output? < 1578242284 625942 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/51423495#51423495 < 1578242285 405478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The client-side local time conversion is pretty light. I mean, discounting jQuery. < 1578242301 486556 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like our evil villain was there all the time :p < 1578242371 45375 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they have to add more stuff to that schedule page then < 1578242390 807963 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, mouseover popups to show the donation choices < 1578242425 186127 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sort widget < 1578242451 187090 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just no functionality, just loading and constructing the page content in javascript < 1578242507 244367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is Twitch owned by Amazon? I didn't know that. < 1578242519 450394 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dunno but that seems likely < 1578242558 75368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was seeing all these "Subscribed with Twitch Prime" things, and thought they'd just copied the name, but apparently it's actually an Amazon subsidiary. < 1578242617 129101 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the Twitch Prime thing means that if you subscribe for Amazon Prime and pair your Amazon account with the Twitch account, you get some "free" stuff on Twitch < 1578242629 332199 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitch advertises that very agressively < 1578242834 905082 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pqwtftbtkrcmfkzr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1578242871 838370 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-btnzcjkstvjmvpkm JOIN :#esoteric < 1578243125 443795 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hauykgcnwyzdtarh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1578244213 669393 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8-ball I can't find my gloves. Should I unpack the mess from the shelf where they're supposed to be? < 1578244217 55267 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certain. < 1578244224 235525 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1578244258 373374 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball should I get bfbot up and running? < 1578244259 117222 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very doubtful. < 1578244273 781372 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball should I rewrite it in Java < 1578244274 749783 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes definitely. < 1578244280 188597 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my lovely bot < 1578244295 71155 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he knows what's good < 1578244357 169370 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball what about elixir? < 1578244358 24976 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes definitely. < 1578244658 651677 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-ball: you're right, they were there. I found three and a half pairs < 1578244670 821755 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Java? why? < 1578244702 164779 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure, if you want, implement it in Java < 1578245386 319672 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like JAva < 1578245391 422640 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why shouldn't implement it in Java < 1578245412 446744 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like Java then sure, it's probably fine for this purpose < 1578245419 691297 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Elixir < 1578245422 188911 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hard decision < 1578245437 664944 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's better than implementing an URL shortener in brainfuck < 1578245441 209358 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball Java (-) or Elixir (+)? < 1578245441 961029 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concentrate and ask again. < 1578245446 399476 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh c'mon < 1578245460 966041 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java is a much better choice than brainfuck for this < 1578245467 790445 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I'll do it on other occasion < 1578245471 534774 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao, sure it is < 1578245475 756554 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we have a bot implemented in befunge < 1578245502 805500 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball Java (-) or Elixir (+)? < 1578245503 733279 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot predict now. < 1578245506 140987 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball Java (-) or Elixir (+)? < 1578245507 77058 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certain. < 1578245507 375001 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mroman mentioned that he should implement blsqbot in blsq < 1578245525 579079 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1578245529 790390 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to modify my todolist < 1578245531 205034 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and NotJack implemented a J evaluator bot in J < 1578245557 171534 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (soon: and kspalaiologos implemented a Brainfuck bot in Brainfuck) < 1578245567 653437 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, I implemented my IRC bots in ruby 1.8, that's actually a worse choice than Java too < 1578245619 265460 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed like a good idea at the time < 1578245661 614198 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess for this approach with brainfuck bot < 1578245662 914961 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually back then they were started in ruby 1.6, but I ported them to 1.8 later) < 1578245684 622699 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: the problem with a brainfuck bot in brainfuck is that a brainfuck interpreter in brainfuck might be slow < 1578245694 968391 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends < 1578245700 449197 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time I used the Tritium interpreter < 1578245703 925339 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was quite fast if you ask me < 1578245710 897997 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need much performance for just the IRC part < 1578245710 965121 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it's too slow I can compile the brainfuck to optimized C < 1578245760 553656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The zemhill of the underscores is done in Ruby too. < 1578245787 42655 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for the brainfuck part, your goal was that it should be able to run programs that take more time than what fungоt is willing to run < 1578245829 681386 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and FireFly eventually ported jevalbot to ruby 2.something < 1578245842 449477 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice evasion < 1578245851 453277 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of activating fungóts markov chains < 1578245916 153224 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo 'ported' < 1578245932 423915 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know ruby, and changed a handful of things it complained about to get it running (like 3-4 places or so) < 1578245960 604287 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J seems like an intritiguing language < 1578245973 450752 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'hi' < 1578245974 213467 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: hi < 1578245977 720595 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it's still alive < 1578245984 183671 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would anyone write in such an language < 1578245987 477597 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: it used to be a decent language, but it's old and maintained in the wrong way just like perl is < 1578245991 131831 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it literally looks like Malbolge but scarier < 1578245995 882837 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? no < 1578245998 216903 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is awesome < 1578246002 941238 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :malbolge? no way < 1578246009 761307 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric : quicksort=: (($:@(<#[), (=#[), $:@(>#[)) ({~ ?@#)) ^: (1<#) < 1578246013 91494 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :APLs are very handy as ridiculously owerful calculators < 1578246014 217183 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It literally looks like hell on earth < 1578246042 759049 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, that aint nothing kspalaiologos < 1578246044 570957 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: I think that expression is not something that people seriously write, it's just something people write to show off how ugly J is. there's a builtin sort operation. < 1578246070 603544 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance, let me show you my 50 entry PPCG Malbolge repo < 1578246071 510413 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a combination of being used to read it, of formatting/clarity, and of choosing a reasonable example < 1578246096 130322 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1578246097 195485 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean you can point at IOCCC and complain that C is a ridiculous language (which, well, wouldn't be the wrong conclusion, but...) < 1578246098 268925 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1578246107 145652 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was example given on Wikipedia < 1578246113 292690 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, I mostly use J as a ridiculously powerful calculator < 1578246114 381397 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think that they are ranting J < 1578246116 931359 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair < 1578246141 240250 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:`($:@-&2+$:@<:)@.(>&2) < 1578246142 323432 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fibonacci < 1578246146 260530 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C'mon man < 1578246150 612769 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's literally write only < 1578246151 980534 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: have you written quicksort in other languages, and doesn't it also look bad? < 1578246164 361873 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks decent < 1578246169 895479 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: that's also not something that people would write < 1578246177 305553 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's many ways to implement fibonacci, and that one is one of the less natural ones in J < 1578246184 940190 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the worst ones < 1578246193 215693 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just try running it with 100 as the argument < 1578246197 38100 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit like insisting on writing an imperative solution in Haskell, instead of a functional one < 1578246208 63588 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand a single character < 1578246209 994107 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of this code < 1578246224 956986 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the Dyalog APL video on Game of Life? < 1578246230 651514 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it looks seductively < 1578246232 98647 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty neat < 1578246238 286902 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9xAKttWgP4 < 1578246243 961244 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like fibo 1 = 1; fibo 2 = 1; fibo k = fibo (k - 1) + fibo (k - 2); would you actually write that in Haskell? < 1578246247 301098 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(APL and J are similar enough that the concepts translate < 1578246270 45651 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know haskell < 1578246276 747626 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: what? not even the 2 in the middle, which is used to subtract 2 from the index? < 1578246277 685330 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a FP guy < 1578246287 799999 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the - which is used to do that subtraction? < 1578246292 949042 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1 2 3 4 < 1578246293 616442 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 1 2 3 4 < 1578246297 276154 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1+2+3+4 < 1578246297 933238 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 10 < 1578246300 788356 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ +/ 1 2 3 4 < 1578246301 411936 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it essentially subtracts & from @, right? < 1578246301 521477 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 10 < 1578246314 793204 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no < 1578246344 246331 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, a better analog in Haskell would be a stupid pointfree one < 1578246366 873488 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with Applicative <*> and whatnot inside, so you can claim that it subtracts <&> from <*> or however that works < 1578246414 182015 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not fluent in Haskell to write that < 1578246436 285449 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos, its not the bottle of poison labelled poison you have to worry about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar19vwtxEKs youd have to convince me your code comes dressed as a goddess and then morphs into death; malbolge i dont think makes any illusions about rescuing people :) < 1578246463 130781 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its called "malbolge" we know it cant be good < 1578246463 433033 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1578246488 556748 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: "Python" is labeled as poisonous too < 1578246507 387519 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1578246515 793503 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's called JavaScript we know it can't be good < 1578246581 340861 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know it's a stupid example because pythons are actually constricting, not venomous < 1578246842 245869 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-btnzcjkstvjmvpkm QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1578246853 596652 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bvqxmwrzndkpjrfu JOIN :#esoteric < 1578247398 232697 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:d5e9:bae4:1e92:a72e JOIN :#esoteric < 1578247553 918647 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:9469:a08c:ee64:af10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1578247994 500439 :user24!~user24@p200300C3AF001712BCDAD9F05FB08DDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1578248407 571412 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1578248446 426843 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1578248482 134703 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Client Quit < 1578248696 421000 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1578250815 57092 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00097e5817e80c66fd.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1578251511 717336 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pastebin.com/nSFkfczB < 1578251519 606420 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :malbolge interpreter in prefix-RLE'd Brainfuck < 1578251527 571101 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks amazing < 1578251545 855303 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's just 10KB < 1578251568 452274 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drawback being, it requires 16bit-cells < 1578251569 313386 :zoobab!zoobab@vic.ffii.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1578251582 149898 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and requires minimum of 700 bytes of memory < 1578251591 234404 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a simple hello world loaded < 1578251597 482863 :zoobab!zoobab@vic.ffii.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1578252286 77459 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused; 700 bytes is small. < 1578252347 903996 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1578252496 35378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it is a lot for Hello World < 1578252976 698831 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00286d5820c0b4038e.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1578252995 410473 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :300 bytes for xlat's, 100 bytes for crazyop table and 9 powers, < 1578253018 506266 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet the xlat's are stored in rcl/sto memory region < 1578253033 681332 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and due to my stupidness, it's size is multiplied by two < 1578253049 571001 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it could be done in 400 bytes without doubt < 1578253058 530664 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the +300 overhead is constant for all the programs > 1578253350 744457 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:OsmineYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68691&oldid=68079 5* 03OsmineYT 5* (+19) 10 < 1578254343 744551 :user24!~user24@p200300C3AF001712BCDAD9F05FB08DDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1578255056 579143 :user24!~user24@p200300C3AF001712BCDAD9F05FB08DDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1578255159 814574 :user24!~user24@p200300C3AF001712BCDAD9F05FB08DDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1578255409 291743 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-171-136.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1578255624 485843 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1578257844 936052 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00286d5820c0b4038e.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1578257851 947003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now TeXnicard is able to use a code such as: 100 100 setpagesize /Courier 10 selectfont 20 30 moveto (Hello) show << /Opacity 0.5 >> seteffect 1 0 0 setrgbcolor newpath 20 20 moveto 20 40 lineto 40 30 lineto fillspecial In interactive mode, you must put . at the beginning to indicate that it is a PostScript code, and then the next line you can write ^0 to make a preview. < 1578257887 472406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quality of the text rendering isn't very good, but I would later add the ability to use TeX fonts, and then it will be good. < 1578257906 437495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, are there any other effects other than opacity that you think would be useful to implement in here? < 1578258022 444577 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00b4e2aa8916d87172.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric > 1578258258 990389 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Sholus 5* 10New user account < 1578258759 540814 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh! Super Monkey Ball is finally back to GDQ! And this time it's warpless < 1578259016 31719 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! Super Mario World one mind 11 exit coop. that will be worth to see. > 1578259299 862090 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68692&oldid=68672 5* 03Sholus 5* (+169) 10/* Introductions */ < 1578260049 813892 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone pointed out how the D&D rules imply that it's practically impossible to see the Sun and the Moon, because the bonus you get to see large objects is logarithmic in their size, but the penalty for seeing distant objects is linear in the distant < 1578260148 976550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, then better rules should be written, I suppose. < 1578260511 545336 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the penalty is -1 point per 10 feet of distance, so it's too high even if you choose to apply only the -3333 points for the 10 kilometers of the atmosphere < 1578260803 530623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GURPS rules is different; there is adjustments for both distance and for size; 3 yards is 1, 100 yards is 10, 100 miles is 30, etc; you add for size and subtract for distance. (If it is smaller than 2 yards then there is also a penalty for size.) < 1578260841 616917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These same numbers are used for ranged attacks (such as arrows, guns, spit poison, etc) < 1578260950 614052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These seem to be better than D&D, but I don't know if better rules could be made. I think what they did wrong with the GURPS is they have a table but failed to mention the equation which generates the table. < 1578261307 298814 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much is the penalty for 8 miles? < 1578261355 757440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: -24 < 1578261703 788573 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't seem bad. and how much bonus do you add to that for an object of 116 meters diameter, which is about how large the moon looks like at that distance < 1578261726 811354 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or 380 feet diameter) < 1578261788 341891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eleven < 1578261879 673018 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in D&D, you get +4 bonus for every power of two that the object is larger than a human < 1578261881 859055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably the full size should be used and not only the apparent size < 1578261892 712380 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: possibly < 1578261924 817595 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the diameter of the Moon is 3.5 megameters < 1578261926 856148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GURPS also has penalties for darkness, from -1 to -9, or no penalty if it is bright. < 1578261968 898178 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense, and it might matter for the Sun < 1578262008 471107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also says there is a bonus of +10 to spot something in plain sight (such as seeing a car is coming toward you on the road). < 1578262066 239352 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may apply if there are no clouds < 1578262078 983691 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or no clouds covering the Moon or Sun at least < 1578262099 492918 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're outdoors < 1578262177 94278 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Sun or Moon is above the horizon < 1578262350 320856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think that makes sense. > 1578264110 456983 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Mikadio 5* 10New user account > 1578264764 438434 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68693&oldid=68692 5* 03Mikadio 5* (+263) 10 > 1578264904 493545 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck Contest 114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68694&oldid=67306 5* 03Mikadio 5* (+145) 10 < 1578267179 765384 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? calesyta < 1578267181 28871 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :calesyta? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1578267466 355467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be work to use pipe() to create a pipe and then use popen() and pass the other end of the pipe using /proc/.../fd/ files? < 1578268043 318716 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's usually a bad idea, because you can deadlock yourself when both your program and the other program are blocked on a write with a full pipe < 1578268073 982691 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it only works if you use an event loop or something to check for when the read pipe is readable and when the write pipe is writable < 1578268079 387636 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and read or write respectively < 1578268089 891406 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be done, but in most cases it's not worth, unless you really need interactivity < 1578268120 283256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, that is right. Is there some other way that you need not make a disk file? < 1578268175 618653 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: make a file in a tmp file system and have no swap? < 1578268190 68568 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually I don't think it's worth to avoid creating files < 1578268197 671604 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you tell why you really need that < 1578268226 396467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to prevent swap, only to not add a file into the system. < 1578268239 565005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is up to the operating system to decide whether or not to swap out) < 1578268249 504541 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for ugly privacy requirements where you want to limit what attackers can do if they can get physical access to your computer or root access after your program has finished < 1578268263 667288 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then just create a file on a tmpfs < 1578268354 583749 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you really want, you can use an event loop and handle both the read and write pipes, buffering everything in memory < 1578268366 519149 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make sure to read all the data you can from the read pipe, even if you don't yet need it < 1578268377 61228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about tmpfs, but perhaps that would work < 1578268414 479736 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.34.132.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1578268416 46391 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can spawn a separate thread or process for one end of the pipe if you want to waste more resources than a file < 1578268438 664231 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but generally, if you don't need interactivity, just use a file < 1578268470 702642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer says that /run is tmpfs < 1578268481 433496 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the input data is really short and the process you're spawning is suitable, you may be able to pass all the data in argv < 1578268580 573993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says that tmpfs is used on /tmp but I do not see that on my computer. < 1578268622 71524 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's usually not on /tmp , though it is in some setups < 1578268632 486397 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can mount any number of them < 1578268665 265728 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's just a file system that stores all its data in the file system caches, and never flushes those caches < 1578268751 83330 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus some extra magic so you can customize how much (virtual) memory it can consume and give ENOSPC when you try to consume more < 1578268765 252929 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the data it uses can be swapped out < 1578268782 771026 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-215.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have swaps set up, obviously