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01:42:34 <zzo38> The PostScript documentation actually specifically says that 1/72 inch (which is the default measurement units for PostScript) isn't the same as a point. (It doesn't say how much a point actually is, but I think a point is 1/72.27 inch.)
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04:49:05 <zzo38> Now the transcript function is implemented in the implementation of Z-machine with PostScript.
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06:37:59 <zzo38> Do you like "Curse of Scotland" card game I mentioned earlier?
06:38:16 <zzo38> You can also suggest alterations if you think to improve it a bit
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09:02:13 <izabera> some time ago i found a paper on arxiv that described a new computing model that more closely reflects modern hardware with caches
09:02:20 <izabera> in which not all memory accesses take the same amount of time and in which thrashing is O(terrible)
09:02:26 <izabera> please help me find it again
09:09:44 <izabera> and like, heap sort turned out to be O(n log^2(n))
09:10:35 <esowiki> [[Kleinfunge]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66713&oldid=66204 * YamTokTpaFa * (+10) See CAT.
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11:52:48 <b_jonas> I wonder if it would be possible to copyright-wash photos or drawings or paintings by showing them in a television program and then allowing everyone to copy the television program.
11:54:10 <b_jonas> someone should do that for the Atomium in particular
11:54:18 <b_jonas> (yes, I know that's not a painting)
11:54:42 <esowiki> [[Talk:Or]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66727&oldid=66726 * A * (+246)
11:55:05 <b_jonas> https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-unsanctioned-2019-10-10 wait what? another M:tG un-set?
11:55:16 <b_jonas> "Announcing Unsanctioned, the preconstructed silver-bordered experience coming February 29, 2020. Unsanctioned contains five combinable 30-card, silver-bordered decks for wacky Un- fun."
11:55:39 <b_jonas> "The set contains sixteen brand-new Un- cards to trip your Un- trigger, plus the reprinting of beloved Un- cards from previous Un- sets." ah. only 16 new cards. that's the trick.
11:55:45 <b_jonas> so it's just an Unstable reprint
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12:23:55 <b_jonas> nah, it probably wouldn't work, the lawyers would find an interpretation of the law that doesn't allow that, per https://www.xkcd.com/1494/
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18:15:29 <oerjan> <b_jonas> so it's just an Unstable reprint <-- . o O ( would you say it's Unremarkable )
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19:14:05 <b_jonas> fungot, can you sing 99 bottles of beer? it has a lot of repeating n-grams, so it should be easy for you to learn
19:14:05 <fungot> b_jonas: i got that right! silly me
19:19:59 <int-e> . o O ( What's an iversity? )
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19:22:07 <b_jonas> int-e: it's when lots of ifferent types of items are available
19:22:19 * int-e is completely Unashamed.
19:26:48 <b_jonas> what is fungot's favourite fruit for the purposes of uncarbonated fruit juice?
19:26:48 <fungot> b_jonas: but that's the idea.) are created before those variables are defined
19:29:25 <oerjan> ah people
19:30:11 <oerjan> i forgot one case in what i explained yesterday, F[0,b...]f[...y,0] where there is more than one element in both lists
19:30:57 <oerjan> in that case it's the 4s on each side that merge, and cancel. the result is [0,b...]f[...y+b...]f[...y,0] .
19:31:04 <oerjan> oops
19:31:32 <oerjan> * the result is [0,b...]f[...y+b+1...]f[...y,0] .
19:32:45 <oerjan> it's +1 this because both representations have that extra 2, one becoming redundant.
19:32:51 <oerjan> *this time
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19:59:34 <imode> this is odd.
19:59:36 <imode> https://repl.it/repls/FloweryShyCategory
19:59:49 <imode> if I head into preamble.h and change my queue size to something that isn't a power of 2, nothing works.
20:00:58 <imode> I've checked the generated source. it seems.. fine.
20:02:09 <imode> head = (head + 1) % 253;
20:03:19 <imode> there should be some kind of wraparound.
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20:07:46 <fizzie> imode: The subtraction looks a little dubious. Since these are unsigned types, if you go below zero before the modulo operation, it first wraps around by a power of 2 before applying the modulo.
20:08:40 <imode> yeah, I intend to have it hit all 1's before applying the modulo. this way even if it's going out of bounds by wrapping around, I can coerce it back in bounds.
20:09:40 <fizzie> That doesn't sound right.
20:10:04 <fizzie> With % 253, I assume you'd want it to wrap from 0 to 252 when decrementing.
20:10:31 <fizzie> But all-ones % N is not N-1 when N is not a power of two.
20:11:02 <imode> right. that's what I intend on doing. but if I decrement, I wrap back around from 0 to whatever the max value of an unsigned long is on my platform, and then modulo.
20:11:41 <imode> I'm getting 235 instead of the expected 252.
20:11:54 <fizzie> Well, because 18446744073709551615 % 253 *is* 235.
20:12:01 <fizzie> (That's 2^64-1.)
20:13:09 <imode> you ever have one of those days where you say "it has to work that way because X Y Z" and then you realize that that's a bold-faced lie.
20:13:22 <imode> that's what I just encountered. it's a decrement. I can just set it to queue-size.
20:13:44 <imode> because you're right, that's totally bonkers. it's not truncating to fit the queue size, it's repeatedly wrapping around. wrong fucking behavior.
20:13:57 <fizzie> Well, you can also decrement by adding (queue_size - 1).
20:14:00 <imode> yeah.
20:14:04 <imode> I probably used that in the previous version as a shortcut.
20:14:31 <imode> because I always relied on it being a power of 2.
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20:14:47 <imode> due to that modulo_size being %(1<<16) initially. thanks for that.
20:16:06 <b_jonas> [ 235|(2^64)
20:16:07 <j-bot> b_jonas: 0
20:16:13 <b_jonas> um
20:16:21 <b_jonas> [ 235|(2x^64)
20:16:22 <j-bot> b_jonas: 166
20:16:24 <b_jonas> better
20:16:43 <b_jonas> yeah, ^ on integers returns a float
20:17:08 <int-e> Yes, only powers of 2 divide 2^64... as long as they aren't too large.
20:17:31 <imode> this is a case of "I'm smart at one point but dumb at another."
20:20:00 <b_jonas> `python3 -cprint((1<<64)%235)
20:20:01 <HackEso> 166
20:26:37 <imode> there we are, works properly now. thanks.
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20:37:58 <zzo38> I thought I should make a Magic: the Gathering card called "Leper Window", but am unsure what its effect should be.
21:15:02 <zzo38> Do you know?
21:16:39 <int-e> Wither the hand of the player if they don't use card sleeves?
21:17:45 <zzo38> I don't think so?
21:28:17 <b_jonas> int-e: that won't work. see the flavor text of Farewell to Arms
21:30:10 <b_jonas> though you could make each card in their hand gain wither until end of turn
21:30:49 <int-e> They foresaw my idea and stole it...
21:35:48 <b_jonas> `card-by-name Foresee
21:35:49 <HackEso> Foresee \ 3U \ Sorcery \ Scry 4, then draw two cards. (To scry 4, look at the top four cards of your library, then put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.) \ FUT-C, M11-C
22:33:33 <b_jonas> int-e: would the wither ability work on the battlefield only? or also in the hand? or even while drafting?
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22:52:17 <zzo38> Wither works from any zone
22:52:35 <b_jonas> zzo38: yes, but this isn't plain wither, it's a conditional thing
22:52:46 <b_jonas> it applies only when the object isn't sealed
22:52:52 <b_jonas> isn't sleeved
22:52:58 <zzo38> (although unless you have the possibility for cards in your hand to deal damage while they are still in your hand, it won't do anything)
22:53:16 <zzo38> (I think most cards only deal damage from the stack or battlefield)
22:53:31 <b_jonas> zzo38: we do have some cards that deal damage when you discard them from your hand
22:54:56 <b_jonas> `card-by-name arashi,
22:54:57 <HackEso> Arashi, the Sky Asunder \ 3GG \ Legendary Creature -- Spirit \ 5/5 \ {X}{G}, {T}: Arashi, the Sky Asunder deals X damage to target creature with flying. \ Channel -- {X}{G}{G}, Discard Arashi: Arashi deals X damage to each creature with flying. \ SOK-R
22:55:17 <b_jonas> or does that ability deal damage from the graveyard?
22:55:29 <b_jonas> I don't remember how that works, I think it might be from the graveyard
22:55:46 <b_jonas> hmm
23:01:51 <arseniiv> . o O ( card-by-value and card-by-need )
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23:11:32 <zzo38> The rules about that doesn't seem to be very clear, I think
23:19:07 <zzo38> A leper window is a window in some old churches so that people outside (such as lepers) could see the church service.
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