< 1570406454 153928 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : > 1570406637 484017 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66528&oldid=66487 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (+44) 10 > 1570406688 414848 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66529&oldid=66528 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (-16) 10 > 1570406712 829638 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66530&oldid=66529 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (+7) 10 > 1570406754 864786 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66531&oldid=66530 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (+7) 10 > 1570406787 294412 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66532&oldid=66531 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (+0) 10 > 1570406807 405354 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66533&oldid=66532 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (-1) 10 > 1570407432 735121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66534&oldid=66533 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (+117) 10 > 1570407480 295354 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66535&oldid=66534 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (+9) 10 > 1570407832 734197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66536&oldid=66535 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (+4) 10 > 1570407862 809082 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66537&oldid=66536 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (+4) 10 > 1570407874 680392 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66538&oldid=66537 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (+4) 10 > 1570407969 913234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AnimaLibera14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66539&oldid=66538 5* 03AnimaLibera 5* (-6) 10 < 1570408705 992050 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:a55c:6be6:8fc7:5784 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570408967 997864 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:a55c:6be6:8fc7:5784 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1570409007 579003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1570409256 779590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I added a export command into bystand, to export articles to mbox format. (Currently, there is no import, though.) < 1570410456 277729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what makes it strange is how new contributors test the code in all those weird languages <-- i think at this point only stasoid knows how to do it :P < 1570410473 824272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and presumably has a fully scripted setup for it < 1570410925 829556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think computer monitors have lower delay than LCD TV sets. So, if you have a game console system, connect it to a computer monitor rather than using the TV set. < 1570410944 466722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If they have a compatible connection) < 1570410947 294876 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually depends on both the TV and the monitor. < 1570410970 512293 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some TVs are quite low-delay, some monitors are quite high. < 1570410991 882022 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though for older consoles the worst case is when you're feeding an interlaced signal in. < 1570411004 910708 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, a TV will usually try to do a smart deinterlacing algorithm. < 1570411015 470218 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is reasonable for generic video content, as that'll look better. < 1570411037 661995 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for games, latency is generally so important you'd rather deal with a bad deinterlace, like bob deinterlacing, just to not have the extra delay. < 1570411105 3205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do some TV sets have a option to change the deinterlacing algorithm? < 1570411258 426515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some old systems such as Famicom will output 240p, but apparently some newer TV sets won't understand a 240p signal > 1570411415 106806 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Moon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66540&oldid=53830 5* 03Ais523 5* (+345) 10/* Template:Codebox */ new section < 1570411433 538975 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some TVs do. There are also third-party devices, like the Retrotink 2x, that will do the ADC and deinterlacing themselves, and send a digital signal over HDMI. > 1570411435 396630 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Moon14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66541&oldid=66540 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10unbreak link < 1570411477 400005 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1570411690 537042 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that HDMI isn't very good and has a lot of problems with the design. (I think Digi-RGB is better.) < 1570411715 937542 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not wrong. < 1570411753 138638 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :HDMI is _good enough_ for most purposes, but it's got significant problems in its design. < 1570412242 706031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is why I make the better one. I think everything with one cable is more disadvantage than an advantage, however, I also think that it is possible to make the advantages of both ways, by defining the standard arrangement and you can use cables which can be clipped together if wanted to do. < 1570412287 953356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have one cable for video, one for each channel of audio, and one for commands, and you can connect only some in case you do not need all of them, or to connect them differently such as if the audio is connected to a separate audio system than the TV screen. < 1570412387 627362 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :While that would get you a lot of flexibility, it does have the downside that most consumers want their video cabling to be simple. < 1570412401 436386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One problem of HDMI is that HDMI does not have captions. < 1570412411 341392 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, that. < 1570412426 686321 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just weird, too. < 1570412461 217368 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget, do Blurays have captions? < 1570412464 529444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know you might want the video cabling to be simple, which is why they are all clipped together, so that you do not have to deal with them individually unless you want to do so. < 1570412477 17185 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they have subtitles, but I don't remember if they have embedded captions like DVD does. < 1570412488 664409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about Blu-ray. DVD video has both captions and subtitles. < 1570412527 696855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a VHS/DVD combo which has the ability to render captions itself, whether from VHS, DVD, or external inputs.) < 1570412594 472149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though DVD subtitles use indexed colours, I have not seen any option in DVD players and DVD software to specify your own colours and opacity for subtitles. < 1570412672 492813 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be nice, cause some discs specify really bad colors too. < 1570412674 297653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Digi-RGB, the captions are transmitted using the IMIDI cable (which is the only one with bidirectional data, and it is optional to use that cable); the Digi-RGB video cable is only the picture and nothing else. < 1570413591 590048 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1570414153 573251 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat JOIN :#esoteric < 1570417717 10838 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1570418013 543356 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1570419573 428210 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570419597 451415 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1570419656 438188 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1570420709 526439 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1570420741 901371 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1570421108 512306 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evening < 1570421180 199183 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evening. < 1570421855 224096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning. < 1570422003 173389 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME < 1570422479 438536 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what time is it anyway? < 1570422479 517701 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm the author of the fnord < 1570422523 588958 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such wisdom. < 1570424583 866260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: sorry for the bad qwwem joke yesterday < 1570424605 631552 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apology accepted < 1570425622 144553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like IMIDI and Digi-RGB? < 1570425875 676011 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel I don't know enough to be certain how I feel about them. < 1570425997 267775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1570427209 420316 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:a55c:6be6:8fc7:5784 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570427468 338057 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:a55c:6be6:8fc7:5784 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1570433364 328969 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` datei # what time is it anyway < 1570433364 839917 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-10-07 07:29:24.622 +0000 UTC October 7 Monday 2019-W41-1 < 1570433508 513157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ddate < 1570433508 913919 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Setting Orange, the 61st day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3185 < 1570433548 580079 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` TZ=Pacific/Auckland datei < 1570433549 80015 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-10-07 20:32:28.859 +1300 NZDT October 7 Monday 2019-W41-1 < 1570433566 112970 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`beat < 1570433566 882790 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :356 < 1570433585 410114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`where beat < 1570433585 804322 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: where: not found < 1570433597 428915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` where beat < 1570433597 977729 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 5: where: command not found < 1570433600 856279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1570433611 146490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which beat < 1570433611 615341 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/beat < 1570433624 537622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/beat < 1570433624 946416 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/python3 \ # beat - print current time in Swatch Internet Time format. \ # blame fizzie \ import math,sys,getopt,time \ prec = 0 \ atime = None \ opts,args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:], "d:hpP:") \ for opt,oarg in opts: \ if "-d" == opt: \ if "@" == oarg[0]: \ atime = float(oarg[1:]) \ else: \ raise RuntimeError("unknown date format") \ elif "-p" == opt: prec = 2 \ elif "-P" == opt: prec = int(oarg) \ elif "-h" == opt: \ print < 1570433629 835842 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beat < 1570433630 756682 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1570433632 403171 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis beat < 1570433632 764250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1570433632 971327 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat(1hackeso) - print current time in Swatch Internet Time format < 1570433639 467145 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`what beat < 1570433639 855906 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: what: not found < 1570433643 866700 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`who beat < 1570433645 619633 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1570433647 116553 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`when beat < 1570433648 960975 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: when: not found < 1570433650 155200 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1570433653 659094 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`why beat < 1570433654 225895 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: why: not found < 1570433663 347917 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whois beat < 1570433663 787987 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: whois: not found < 1570433687 710983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whence beat < 1570433688 87669 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: whence: not found < 1570433728 611474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whomsoever beat < 1570433729 140095 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: whomsoever: not found < 1570433844 123627 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` for x in type what who which how why when whence where whither; do "$x" beat 2>/dev/null && echo "+$x"; "${x}is" beat 2>/dev/null && echo "+${x}is"; done < 1570433845 190691 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat is /hackenv/bin/beat \ +type \ beat(1hackeso) - print current time in Swatch Internet Time format \ +whatis \ +who \ /hackenv/bin/beat \ +which \ beat: /hackenv/bin/beat \ +whereis < 1570433848 961896 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` who beat < 1570433849 378881 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1570433852 482356 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` who beat you < 1570433852 963496 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1570433859 418971 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :show it on the dolly < 1570433871 914234 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` whereis beat < 1570433872 519392 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat: /hackenv/bin/beat < 1570433879 900941 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` type whereis < 1570433880 420935 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereis is /usr/bin/whereis < 1570433885 516174 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` whatis whereis < 1570433888 163392 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereis(1) - locate the binary, source, and manual page files for a command < 1570433928 833410 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` dpkg-query -S /usr/bin/whereis < 1570433929 303976 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg-query: error: failed to open package info file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory < 1570433993 179816 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we had the package database, then we could add a "whence" script that does dpkg-query -S < 1570434102 603291 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a when script that queries both the hg repository and the package history for when the file was installed and modified < 1570434124 331513 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a who script to tell who modified it... < 1570434144 755427 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a why script that links to channel logs for context < 1570434146 742161 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-235.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1570434674 978477 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:a55c:6be6:8fc7:5784 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570437018 44635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite > 1570438224 500465 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Aleph14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=66542 5* 03MiroslavRD 5* (+18) 10Redirected page to [[0]] > 1570438239 793734 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Aleph Naught14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=66543 5* 03MiroslavRD 5* (+18) 10Redirected page to [[0]] > 1570438267 127986 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Aleph Null14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=66544 5* 03MiroslavRD 5* (+18) 10Redirected page to [[0]] > 1570438276 989982 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NO14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=66545 5* 03MiroslavRD 5* (+18) 10Redirected page to [[0]] > 1570438291 465666 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07N014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=66546 5* 03MiroslavRD 5* (+18) 10Redirected page to [[0]] > 1570438332 985875 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07O14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=66547 5* 03MiroslavRD 5* (+18) 10Redirected page to [[0]] < 1570441692 593845 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570441749 531436 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` for x in type what who which how why when whence where whither; do type -a "$x" 2>/dev/null; type -a "${x}is" 2>/dev/null; done < 1570441750 109502 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :type is a shell builtin \ whatis is /hackenv/bin/whatis \ whatis is /usr/bin/whatis \ who is /usr/bin/who \ which is /usr/bin/which \ which is /bin/which \ whereis is /usr/bin/whereis < 1570445097 869548 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.206.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570453755 877562 :shig!~davidb@inara.oztechninja.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1570453772 462998 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-crnmxbpqzlaziwhg JOIN :#esoteric > 1570453926 274509 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:CodeBox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66548&oldid=66527 5* 03Moon 5* (+3) 10try this? > 1570453943 890195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Moon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66549&oldid=66541 5* 03Moon 5* (+99) 10/* Template:CodeBox */ > 1570454046 975133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:CodeBox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66550&oldid=66548 5* 03Moon 5* (+13) 10 > 1570454072 310246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:CodeBox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66551&oldid=66550 5* 03Moon 5* (+17) 10 < 1570454079 643842 :shig!~davidb@inara.oztechninja.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I found this place from the bfjoust site. Anywhre with IOCCC winners announced in the topic can't be that bad < 1570454172 411553 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome shig < 1570454174 126254 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shig: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) > 1570454181 272449 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:CodeBox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66552&oldid=66551 5* 03Moon 5* (+0) 10Something something porting pains > 1570454288 376301 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:CodeBox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66553&oldid=66552 5* 03Moon 5* (-17) 10''sigh'' > 1570454375 188799 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:CodeBox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66554&oldid=66553 5* 03Moon 5* (-13) 10Ok, maybe this *won't* work. < 1570455405 870416 :zemhill_________!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :web.shig_eyeless_joustee: points -5.50, score 13.46, rank 42/47 < 1570456065 512982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The underscore situation is getting ridiculous. < 1570456082 180355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm pretty afraid that the thing wouldn't actually start up properly if I kill it. < 1570456329 190915 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: its nick is 16 chars long, which is the maximum on freenode < 1570456339 797541 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think it will crash when it tries to add another underscore? < 1570456344 986454 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or fail to connect? < 1570456362 605938 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or will it get more ridiculous by modifying its nick in different ways?\ < 1570456525 567620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. It may just keep the current amount of underscores. < 1570456618 534268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's left and come back a few times with the current name, though from my client's perspective those were all netsplits, so maybe it didn't actually reconnect those times. < 1570456974 655215 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has also reached the maximum nickname length on Freenode, I think. < 1570457010 682093 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as wib_jonas already pointed out < 1570457218 659597 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you can't fix the code, you just have to take it to a different network. there exist some with longer nick max lengths and longer channel max lengths. I think the maximum isn't even attained on the same network. < 1570457424 208853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plan was (I guess technically still is) to migrate it under the esolangs.org domain and at the same time switch to a rewrite that I think I left about half finished. Just never remember to pick that up. > 1570457729 297332 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Moon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66555&oldid=66549 5* 03Moon 5* (-91) 10Section 'bug reporting' obsolete, It is not 2016 anymore, I know what a 'github' is. All of my old languages should be considered unsupported, considering putting them up for deletion. < 1570457933 481022 :ivzem[m]!ivzemmatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jevpriyjrvnxmbml QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570457934 179179 :xylochoron[m]!xylochoron@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-neitrrauynguvntc QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1570457952 747269 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qfcdrrqepoigqhsf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1570457958 44685 :Camto[m]!camtomatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-llfdcyjykpwbtxif QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570457959 24753 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-kgafnkfihzpndcpz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1570458233 955587 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Quit: iovoid has quit! < 1570458267 972897 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric > 1570458648 653370 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hellborne14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66556&oldid=60337 5* 03Moon 5* (-526) 10Blank. This is a language of my creation. [[User:ais523]], you mind deleting it? There was effectively no progress on this language. < 1570460034 424834 :zemhill_________!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :web.shig_this_is_hard: points -15.98, score 9.72, rank 46/47 > 1570460054 556937 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:CodeBox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66557&oldid=66554 5* 03Moon 5* (+51) 10try  > 1570460295 155544 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:CodeBox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66558&oldid=66557 5* 03Moon 5* (-51) 10My disappointment is immeasurable. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight isn't installed ): < 1570462749 355082 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1570462774 394021 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570463458 12436 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1570463882 226 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570464526 272282 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-crnmxbpqzlaziwhg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1570465298 886646 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98995.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1570465559 993737 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1570465865 960538 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pgmmudzojockohut JOIN :#esoteric < 1570465911 980557 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1570466009 599509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1570467244 244213 :xylochoron[m]!xylochoron@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-dkhprysdprxegteg JOIN :#esoteric < 1570467244 321613 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nuwlbcfpafudotek JOIN :#esoteric < 1570467251 608751 :ivzem[m]!ivzemmatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-udbmcezuxzdrjtyp JOIN :#esoteric < 1570467252 37702 :Camto[m]!camtomatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-tjufydtruyafdflz JOIN :#esoteric < 1570469644 817861 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1570471005 412320 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570471070 999984 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1570471196 882228 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570471623 658961 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570472604 663924 :zseri!~ytrizja.d@ip4d158302.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1570472696 950312 :zseri!~ytrizja.d@ip4d158302.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1570472978 875177 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.206.178 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1570473175 164806 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570473335 356235 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570475281 919587 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570475454 108408 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1570475662 748845 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :got this working today: https://cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=282466#282466 < 1570475757 203833 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: uh, that's a weird goal < 1570475799 334131 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does it do now? < 1570475810 339236 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the z80 need a lot of extra chips to make sense? < 1570475813 481635 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing yet, since I just got done with the hardware < 1570475831 503117 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the 83+ there's an ASIC that does all the glue logic < 1570475863 946142 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it get a RAM? < 1570475869 515927 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or doesn't the z80 need one? < 1570475876 133545 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's ram and flash on the TI board < 1570475887 772484 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hooloovoo.blue/files/noz80.png < 1570475903 846573 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the board with the z80 removed < 1570475909 52390 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure there's some RAM, but I thought that was RAM that is hardware incompatible, plus the TI is already using it < 1570475988 724696 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, the extra chip piggybacked on the back is the CPU, replacing the surface-mount one that would normally be on the board < 1570476014 462373 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused what ram you think is incompatible? < 1570476015 757999 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the normal cpu isn't there? < 1570476059 142588 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a TI-92 at the flea market < 1570476062 349626 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do with it < 1570476066 666474 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking something ham radio related < 1570476078 896752 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there are any morse encoder/decoder for it < 1570476088 455123 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be easy to hook up the link port to a cw keyer jack < 1570476094 218776 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so this TI model already uses a z80 cpu? < 1570476096 545700 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains a lot < 1570476117 690837 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, sorry, I guess that's not clear if you don't know anything about the calc < 1570476120 499792 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused by calculator models, I assumed this was a calculator from 2000 or something < 1570476173 752686 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually is, the date code is 0800 < 1570476190 996156 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aug 2000) < 1570476210 412146 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1570476219 927310 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but the model < 1570476227 503233 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, ok, so it uses a z80 cpu < 1570476234 726923 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you replaced that with another z80 cpu < 1570476237 430694 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes a lot more sense < 1570476289 448443 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long are those ribbon cables from the board to the cpu? the photos don't show the end < 1570476300 72051 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so eventually I can do something like http://www.cosam.org/projects/z80/panel.html which would be basically impossible with the original, surface-mount CPU < 1570476305 619089 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at what frequency does the RAM run? < 1570476328 278608 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the system clock is by default 6Mhz < 1570476348 735236 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have my frequency counter with me right now, but I have added in a variable resistor so I can overclock it < 1570476375 605539 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see the ribbon cables between the two halves in the first picture < 1570476412 508929 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're maybe 15cm total < 1570476415 500337 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the purpose of replacing the CPU? < 1570476433 189395 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that sounds not impossible < 1570476446 931572 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :top of the post lists some reasons :) < 1570476476 891517 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm not aware of a morse encoder, but that shouldn't be too hard to do in C I think < 1570476489 528214 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1570476493 428445 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :encoder would be almost trivial < 1570476496 528037 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :decoding is much harder < 1570476521 551809 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, especially since it's not an analog port < 1570476533 376368 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1570476539 140526 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would want some kind of tone detector circuit < 1570476554 360743 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be level based, or frequency based < 1570476559 799600 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily that complicated < 1570476568 310968 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also ICs for that < 1570476584 894585 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you could do it with a 555 and maybe an op-amp < 1570476592 70445 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1570476619 275867 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so this channel is about esoteric hardware too now < 1570476622 361518 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could maybe do it with a resonant LRC circuit that has an appropriate decay constant < 1570476632 568514 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it's feasible to get high enough Q on that < 1570476635 204738 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a link cable? I've got more than I need < 1570476637 2770 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you also need to do stats to work out the pulse lengths < 1570476652 600196 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can probably just get away with any old 2.5mm TRS < 1570476671 310763 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well, humans are not always super consistent with morse timing < 1570476678 127303 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can be tricky < 1570476685 888054 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: I would love a link cable? < 1570476688 388198 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: I would love a link cable* < 1570476699 258434 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, do you mean I could make one with a TRS plug and a USB-TTL adapter or something? < 1570476708 175492 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something I could do with parts on hand, which is cool < 1570476709 510380 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1570476711 407758 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many projects < 1570476718 876725 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if my Mouser order's here yet < 1570476726 756445 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some sex toy hacking < 1570476732 220547 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is that also esoteric) < 1570476740 687755 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I actually do have a spare RS232 link cable < 1570476746 416239 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/actually/ < 1570476760 341233 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to use an actual RS232 port < 1570476763 540764 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :USB would be good < 1570476790 693481 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a usb-rs232 that'll work with the graylink < 1570476795 75338 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: with male or female and the wide or narrow ends? < 1570476798 45693 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I picked one up from the dump last week < 1570476826 568445 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1570476826 799574 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I have spare calc-calc cables, more than I can use < 1570476831 239888 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1570476839 999237 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is just a traight thru TRS right < 1570476844 900935 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh but it's 2.5mm not 3.5mm < 1570476850 68733 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it a crossover < 1570476850 292904 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1570476857 841853 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :straight-through < 1570476860 482446 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1570476884 177210 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could also most likely program one of my microcontrollers to be a link cable < 1570476887 410756 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be a little silly < 1570476900 222746 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the same hardware could act as an IO expander, ADC, etc < 1570476902 687252 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :TI has weird-length t and s connectors but in my experience it works with just a standard one < 1570476916 250966 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway do you have a premade working USB link cable for me? < 1570477007 389184 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know maybe I think life is good and fine < 1570477015 79637 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :( < 1570477096 954046 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yes < 1570477164 595277 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait I might actually have one, but if I do, it's in my storage unit < 1570477171 559417 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1570477174 715549 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it wouldn't cost much to buy one < 1570477193 856249 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they got significantly cheaper since TI did away with the link port on the CE < 1570477239 582574 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a grey cable back in the day because it meant I could plug a modem into my 83+ < 1570477243 474067 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the wireless ricochet modem < 1570477245 598809 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was really fun < 1570477254 835635 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did IRC from it a little < 1570477259 310152 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1570477342 441394 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how? I'm not aware of any tcp clients for z80 at all < 1570477376 236492 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if you could dial into some computer that can do IRC then that would work < 1570477457 859010 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not TCP < 1570477459 38982 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, the graylink is a lot of fun < 1570477460 237243 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a serial console < 1570477463 437338 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1570477496 308360 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ricochet was a pre-wifi, pre-affordable-cell-data metro area networking service < 1570477511 569961 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1570477516 100231 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on 900 MHz < 1570477525 603211 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had their own 'fast' protocol with the host but you could also put it into a Hayes AT compatible mode and dial direct between modems, which was good because the service went out of business and you could buy them for cheap < 1570477543 629247 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I had one in the basement connected to my OpenBSD server and I could 'dial' it from my bedroom using the 83+ and a big pile of cable adapters < 1570477569 530008 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one fun-evil thing would be to put a little wireles module (maybe one of the nRF serial ones) in a TI-* case < 1570477570 751817 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awesome < 1570477574 459733 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could message people while taking an exam < 1570477590 756277 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about this kind of stuff for fun but of course I didn't need to cheat to get a great SAT score :P < 1570477612 567320 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure but I bet I also had the 83+ hooked up to an actual phone line modem at some point < 1570477625 687192 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? there are still others who need to cheat to get a great SAT score and who may have bought your service < 1570477652 136711 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was lawful good back then < 1570477655 877042 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm chaotic good < 1570477657 966698 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a shitty IRC client for the 92+ based on https://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/160/16061.html < 1570477666 735593 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :used it for a conference badge < 1570477668 455068 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1570477672 903345 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what hardware did you use for that < 1570477690 421498 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a graylink, and a laptop acting as a slip gateway < 1570477702 146866 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool < 1570477706 149753 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and same re: not needing to cheat < 1570477732 358630 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think during the con I had a laptop without real serial ports so there was a usb adapter in there < 1570477763 536323 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could actually set it up with a modem, now that I have a phone line set up < 1570477778 921424 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/line/system/ < 1570477844 539534 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graylink is only half duplex, though.... so collisions have to be dealt with in software... and that's problematic < 1570477882 121472 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: collisions? not a protocol for switching direction? < 1570478054 462901 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, TI's link protocol just... doesn't really handle that < 1570478187 648446 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ip-over-serial protocol assumes that collisions can't happen < 1570479849 810228 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570479866 25334 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570481454 376294 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6a4b-4.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1570481558 134083 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-bcee07-58.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1570484856 19554 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570484974 165272 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1570485467 378243 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:a55c:6be6:8fc7:5784 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570485798 227377 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: your calculator brain surgery is impressive < 1570485804 529550 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of soldering < 1570485863 240805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We used a TI-86 as the controller of an echo effect for a DSP programming course at the university. < 1570485891 397655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't involve any soldering, but involved like two evenings of debugging with an oscilloscope before someone thought to check the speaker cable scavenged from somewhere. < 1570485894 388875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was bad.) < 1570485935 540629 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1570485937 597981 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical < 1570486020 171995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://zem.fi/tmp/spank.jpg < 1570486078 394140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The code was nothing to write home about, so we had to embellish it *somehow* for the flair.) < 1570486412 529958 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1570486425 191395 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1570486433 870125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1570486437 71484 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1570486447 33577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what'z jammin' < 1570486461 58845 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1570486471 452033 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :frustrated because my home internet keeps going down and i don't know why < 1570486526 461044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's scow < 1570486544 885097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like SPEKE? twh < 1570486666 132061 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's scow < 1570486667 770860 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's SPEKE < 1570486726 514625 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570486867 105265 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spotify still thinks it's offline even though the machine is online thru my phone < 1570486870 55556 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spotify is buggy < 1570486875 59129 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately i still have some music stored locally < 1570486959 862682 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty scow < 1570487339 870454 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1570487436 978344 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:a55c:6be6:8fc7:5784 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570487697 1042 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:a55c:6be6:8fc7:5784 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1570487916 66193 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1570488455 165985 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1570488522 939347 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we have the structured program theorem for control flow. what about data flow? < 1570488559 945108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: password authentication protocol < 1570488577 137841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where two people can confirm that they're thinking of the same thing without revealing it to each other < 1570488611 792496 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1570488614 731481 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's cool < 1570488638 265128 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of like the question I asked in ##crypto re cryptographically secure dating services < 1570488666 196936 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a set of people, everyone selects the ones they have a crush on, and you find out if anyone you picked also picked you < 1570488675 275987 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, interesting < 1570488686 411989 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't find out if they picked you without picking them, and you can't find out anything about other pairs < 1570488713 673438 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then someone linked me to https://github.com/teledildonics/private_kink_intersection < 1570488719 360711 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is.. a great URL < 1570488729 556375 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and solves basically the same problem in a slightly different context < 1570488747 962305 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there are some papers on this private set intersection problem < 1570489525 500166 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: would a serial link cable work with this usb adapter? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007T27H8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 < 1570489533 779617 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :black graphlink, or grey only? < 1570489541 611869 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the black one uses CTS/RTS < 1570489547 796724 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it /should/ work but I don't know if it's picky about timing < 1570489564 8035 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(many hams keep an old DOS laptop around for programming radios from the 90s that use timing-exact serial interfaces) < 1570489710 261411 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: I found a 2.5mm TRS plug by chance today < 1570489715 142816 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I might try to build https://www.ticalc.org/hardware/cables/serial.html < 1570489724 151053 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I can't get a silver link cable from one of the local free-shit groups < 1570489735 991464 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is supposedly black link compatible and i have all the parts most likely < 1570489761 671434 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't say what volage of zener diode to use :P < 1570489797 711353 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I assume 5.6V? < 1570490234 869196 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1570490800 74903 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :grey onl < 1570490811 244658 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid y key < 1570490825 199118 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1570490838 872762 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in that case the homemade cable also won't work w/ my serial adapter < 1570490843 430785 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad < 1570490850 97089 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that one will work with a usb/serial adapter < 1570490873 504911 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that it used flow control pins as data pins... which if you have a real serial port, that's fine < 1570490889 882094 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but usb serial ports handle it poorly < 1570490894 759764 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be possible to program a micro as a normal-serial-over-USB to TI-wacky-protocol converter < 1570490899 190952 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that also sounds like effort < 1570490908 168694 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might work, but it probably won't < 1570490921 331871 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I can get a graphlink usb for <$20 < 1570490928 134754 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did confirm that the TI-92 turns on < 1570490936 770559 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that probably could be made to work, someone might have even done it < 1570490955 896233 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could also get a grey link for $16 which would be more versatile in some ways but a lot more bulk < 1570490968 839261 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a 92? I think you have to do hacks to get assembly working on plain 92 < 1570490972 291032 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1570491002 735534 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1570491004 986169 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a 92+ < 1570491011 621407 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570491026 115376 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.ticalc.org/basics/calculators/ti-92.html looks like it's doable though < 1570491033 491332 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1570491037 51210 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could still have fun with basic too < 1570491044 934797 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TI-89/92 BASIC is pretty powerful < 1570491051 843812 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is < 1570491060 446498 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pretty fast if you take good advantage of the built-in capabilities < 1570491096 526340 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a lot less familiar with 68k basic than z80 basic < 1570491113 832502 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently there's a better way, but that page can't be fucked to describe what it is < 1570491217 730281 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.ticalc.org/pub/92/asm/shells/ that's right, fargo < 1570491251 226153 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :been a while since I've played with the plain 92 < 1570491311 571513 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work with tigcc? < 1570491323 31511 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never actually done m68k assembly, it could be fun < 1570491337 34611 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this will get me excited about coding again < 1570491338 27238 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1570491340 618943 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could happen < 1570491377 633525 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc4ti is the 'new' thing < 1570491424 728514 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, it should be supported < 1570491635 318980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our (high) school was all TI-85/86 when I went through it. I think the 85 you had to trick to write assembly, but the 86 did it natively. < 1570491677 311908 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had mostly 83+ and 89 < 1570491684 804586 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 89 was a lifesaver for calc and physics < 1570491707 157779 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a decent CAS along with unit analysis < 1570491746 694062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :86 didn't do algebra, but I think that was an advantage, you were allowed to use it in the exams. < 1570491747 975806 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you had to trick the 85 < 1570491757 689136 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were starting to get nspires when I was in HS < 1570491786 213808 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION took his TI-XXXXXXXXXXX to many an exam < 1570491795 637683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking TI-86 was about the most advanced thing you could possibly take with you in an exam. And you had to reset it. < 1570491817 611378 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the 89 was allowed on all AP math/science exams < 1570491832 813768 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1570491839 707870 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall it being super useful though < 1570491844 896927 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a fake reset screen app < 1570491856 164741 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for cheating... but because I didn't want to lose the games and stuff < 1570491865 60894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that existed for the 86 as well. < 1570491873 539124 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it easily enough if you can run asm < 1570491879 627511 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like there's any OS that's going to stop you < 1570491890 44672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it could have a hardware reset switch. < 1570491918 353524 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do :P take out all batteries, then on+clear < 1570491927 579940 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1570491927 777600 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :while inserting the last one < 1570491951 910113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. I don't think anyone insisted on resetting it that thoroughly though. < 1570491977 27318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a robotfindskitten port for the 86, https://zem.fi/rfk86/ < 1570491996 957528 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc also there's hold left and right arrows on later 84+OSs had 'hold left and right with battery insert' as 'reset for signapore' < 1570492076 98614 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wikiti.brandonw.net/index.php?title=83Plus:OS:Secret_Key_Combinations < 1570492132 569219 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that's not quite what it does, but yeah, there's all those