00:12:58 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:07:41 [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61363&oldid=60890 * Zane * (+309) 01:09:26 * kmc is a prepper and would be fine for 1-2 weeks at home with no power and no going out for supplies 01:11:59 lots of water, canned and bulk food, gas-canister camp stove (outdoor use only!), various battery packs and LED lights and a zillion ham radios 01:12:14 granted, it doesn't get very cold here, I have no way to heat the apartment as a whole 01:53:07 how do you power the radios long-term? 01:53:39 or is there a plan for times to use them/etc with the local hams 01:56:05 there is not a plan regarding times, that I know of 01:56:44 if I needed to get a message out, I would try several frequencies and repeaters that I know are popular and/or are involved with emergency stuff 01:57:01 if I want to get an idea of what's going on, I would just scan 01:57:21 as for power I have a variety of battery packs laying around, and some solar panels (tho most of them are in off-site storage atm) 02:03:23 When DOS games output 3d as interleaved scan lines, can I assume 1 scan line = 1 pixel? 02:10:47 I even have a hand-crank radio, AM/FM broadcast receive only, but it has a USB power output and in *theory* I can charge one of the ham radios from it 02:10:55 no idea how much cranking would be required 02:11:03 it must get old 02:11:08 (well, AM/FM and NOAA weather radio) 02:11:10 kmc: I'm not sure that quite counts as "prepper". 02:11:25 because I don't have an underground bunker with 500 boxes of ammunition? 02:11:39 I mean, you are well prepared for an emergency, but that's not "prepped to survive for months, or the fall of western civilization" 02:11:55 That's more... prepped well to survive if an earthquake happens in the Bay. 02:11:57 it's still more than most people :P 02:12:04 Oh, for sure. 02:18:50 [[Truth-machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61364&oldid=60891 * Zane * (+318) 02:23:34 -!- FreeFull has quit. 02:23:48 Sgeo__, usually, though sometimes pixels are non-square 02:24:10 because with CRTs, pixels can be however big the graphics card decides 02:25:41 on B&W CRTs sure 02:26:13 as long as you're below the dot pitch, it's fine on color CRTs too 02:26:28 on color, I think you are still limited by the color mask 02:26:32 hm 02:26:53 right, but *most* color crts are good enough to play DOS games 02:27:06 at least, any color computer monitors 02:28:01 Yeah. In principle a DOS game _could_ use whatever graphics interfaces it likes to go super high res, but in practice DOS games only went as far as 640x480 (and often less) 02:28:34 tektronix made some interesting non-mask-based color CTRs: https://hackaday.com/2019/01/17/sharpest-color-crt-display-is-monochrome-plus-a-trick/ 02:29:14 I want to convert interleaved to SBS, each row I guess alternates left and right? 02:29:14 it's a monochrome CRT with some LCD-controlled color filters in front of it 02:29:18 row of pixels? 02:29:25 If DOSBox were to be at original size 02:32:05 tek also made storage tubes, where you draw vectors with the electron beam and they stay there through some kind of magic 02:32:28 cool demo with an amazing retro-computing vibe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IztxeoHhoyM 02:33:25 these were used for CAD workstations for a time, when it was too expensive to have the computer constantly re-drawing all vectors 02:42:29 oh, that's really cool 02:42:35 I have a couple of the storage toobs 02:42:48 ooh! 02:42:52 how'd you come by those 02:43:05 storage CRTs were also used as RAM by some *really* old computers 02:43:17 the university garbage 02:43:22 yeah, williams tubes 02:43:38 predating core memory, predating even delay lines I think 02:43:40 there's a display that I walk by every day with one in it 02:43:51 or contemporary... I guess delay lines were developed for radar first 02:43:52 I think delay lines were first, but I'm not positive 02:43:53 awesome 02:44:01 ever been to the computer history museum in mountain view? 02:44:55 no, haven't been to SF in too long 02:45:03 I'll be in palo alto for the summer 02:45:08 neat 02:46:19 (me and/or my roommate) have a 603a and I have a 7000 series scope at my parents house 02:48:01 there was one thing that we found which we couldn't just liberate, it's going to the LCM in Seattle 02:48:51 trying no to share many details 03:22:42 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:23:07 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 03:28:36 yessss 03:28:56 a friend has a tek 7000 storage scope 03:29:24 with regular time base and amp modules but also a 7D02 debugger 03:35:56 That museum is pretty sweet. 03:36:17 I've not been there 03:36:20 but it sounds great 03:36:34 there's also the Museum of Communications right 03:36:43 I went there when I was a small child 03:36:46 don't remember much 03:40:55 I have a couple IRC friends who volunteer there 03:41:06 and it sounds pretty cool 04:24:52 -!- zhanx has joined. 04:43:54 -!- zhanx has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:44:19 -!- zhanx has joined. 05:28:26 -!- arqueiro has quit (Quit: Page closed). 07:07:51 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 07:08:24 -!- Frater_EST has left. 07:29:18 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 07:31:46 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 07:32:15 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 08:14:42 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:15:08 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 08:49:36 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 08:50:24 [ 16*38 08:50:24 wob_jonas: 608 08:51:55 [ 24*3.79 08:51:56 wob_jonas: 90.96 09:14:59 That doesn't look like J 09:15:06 Oh, I'm thinking of dc 09:15:09 That does look like J 09:15:15 [ i.10 09:15:15 Taneb: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 09:15:27 it's just multiplications. J can do them fine. 09:15:39 `perl -e print 24*3.79 09:15:40 wob_jonas: yeah, I was mixed up 09:15:41 90.96 09:15:56 `dc -e 24 3.79*p 09:15:57 90.96 09:16:16 `python3 -e print 24*3.79 09:16:18 Unknown option: -e \ usage: python3 [option] ... [-c cmd | -m mod | file | -] [arg] ... \ Try `python -h' for more information. 09:16:24 `python3 -c print 24*3.79 09:16:26 ​ File "", line 1 \ print 24*3.79 \ ^ \ IndentationError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print' 09:16:31 wob_jonas: python3 wants parens after print 09:16:34 `python3 -c print(24*3.79) 09:16:35 ​ File "", line 1 \ print(24*3.79) \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent 09:16:50 `python3 -cprint(24*3.79) 09:16:51 90.96000000000001 09:25:01 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:34:45 -!- user24 has joined. 09:40:16 -!- tromp has joined. 09:42:54 -!- zhanx has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:43:22 -!- zhanx has joined. 09:52:15 Another problem I am having with greek letters 09:52:38 -!- vertrex has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 09:52:59 is Ϟ supposed to be curly and ϟ straight or the other way round 09:53:30 wikipedia shows one, unicode code charts show the other way 09:54:07 -!- vertrex has joined. 09:54:50 Follow your heart 09:55:05 I'd say upper case forms tend to be less curly than lower case forms, in my experience 09:56:36 yeah so that would make Ϟ the straight one 10:39:06 I am also adding ׯ 10:39:42 `unidecode ׯ 10:39:43 ​[U+05EF HEBREW YOD TRIANGLE] 11:42:54 -!- zhanx has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:43:22 -!- zhanx has joined. 12:02:28 -!- glowcoil has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:03:19 -!- glowcoil has joined. 12:28:08 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 12:42:44 -!- G33kDude has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 12:47:32 -!- G33kDude has joined. 12:59:52 -!- Frater_EST has left. 13:10:24 i just wrote a polyglot 13:10:32 c/python/.../chess 13:10:35 1.e4 13:20:30 -!- arseniiv has joined. 13:56:12 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:56:38 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 14:51:52 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:07:15 -!- LKoen has joined. 15:23:24 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:24:40 -!- LKoen has joined. 15:38:50 [[Talk:Revolution 9]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61365&oldid=53225 * HereToAnnoy * (-199) sorry guys i'm retarded 16:01:54 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:23:37 -!- LKoen has joined. 16:28:34 -!- LKoen has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 16:42:24 -!- LKoen has joined. 16:49:37 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:54:17 -!- sebbu has joined. 17:03:19 -!- J_Arcane has quit. 17:03:36 -!- J_Arcane has joined. 17:27:40 -!- glowcoil has quit. 17:28:03 -!- glowcoil has joined. 17:50:52 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 17:54:01 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 18:05:19 -!- b_jonas has joined. 18:05:43 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 18:41:02 There's electricity again, but the fungot box doesn't have the "turn on after recovering power" option, so fungot outage will persist until I can reach the power switch. 18:41:44 what is this site? https://code-golf.io/ 18:41:48 hey fizzie 18:45:44 I don't know, but it's very J-dominated. 18:46:19 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:46:22 -!- FreeFull has joined. 18:47:18 yay electricity 18:48:58 Well, according to the latest update letter "we are not out the woods yet as this is a temporary repair, however we are now in a position to have time on our side and can plan for the next stage --". 18:49:23 -!- atslash has joined. 18:49:26 I don't know if you can really call that "having time on our side", really. 18:50:03 At least to me that sort of suggests things would get better by just waiting. 18:51:22 -!- arseniiv_ has changed nick to arseniiv. 18:57:28 perhaps "we've bought some time" would be better 18:57:58 "time is still against us but not quite so rabidly so for the moment" 18:58:14 I do not think the power company here would be so forthcoming about things 18:58:24 they have more of a "fuck you" attitude 18:58:52 a privately traded for-profit company, which exists to make dividends for its shareholders, which has a legal monopoly to provide electrical and gas service 18:59:19 they've been fined many times for misbehavior but their only way to recoup that money is to raise rates so... 19:00:19 they went bankrupt this year, but still paid out huge bonuses 19:00:44 well at least it's better than Enron. 19:11:41 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 19:15:58 FWIW, these haven't been from the power company, they've been from the management company for the building. 19:23:02 -!- APic_ has joined. 19:26:07 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:27:49 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 19:28:54 -!- APic has quit (Quit: *fupp*). 19:31:15 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 19:31:15 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 19:41:25 -!- APic_ has changed nick to APic. 20:00:05 -!- APic has quit (Quit: Reconnecting). 20:00:14 -!- APic has joined. 20:08:42 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:09:07 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 20:28:46 Hooloovoo: you were asking about my off-grid radio power options, here's one of them: https://imgur.com/a/PC7e00e 20:31:51 I added an 8-port Powerpole distribution block and a Powerpole to car accessory socket cable. So I can run both of my mobile radios as well as a USB charger or other car accessory from a single battery pack 20:32:12 that's on top of the big lead-acid batteries and solar panels 20:32:16 which are less convenient to carry around 20:35:01 -!- oerjan has joined. 20:35:08 the box pictured weighs 3.6 kg / 7.9 lb 20:39:13 [[Control Character]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61366&oldid=60974 * EnilKoder * (+88) 20:47:09 -!- fungot has joined. 20:48:45 kmc: nice 20:49:17 do you also have a working car charger for this? 20:50:12 not quite, not yet 21:45:01 my first was about 1000 km, San Francisco to Phoenix, AZ 21:45:16 but the same day I got 7,400 km to Sakhalin 21:45:34 and a few days later 9,800 km to Tambov, Russia 21:45:40 that's on FT8 though... easy mode 21:47:14 wrong window 21:47:16 but whatever 21:48:32 heh 21:49:25 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 22:19:20 Is there a NNTP client software using SQLite? 22:22:24 -!- danieljabailey has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:42:56 [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61367&oldid=61063 * Void * (+116) /* Implementations */ 22:50:22 -!- user24 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:01:39 [[BoredKat]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61368&oldid=60897 * KerbalEngineer * (-191) 23:02:08 [[Special:Log/move]] move * KerbalEngineer * moved [[BoredKat]] to [[Dimensional]] 23:02:39 [[Dimensional]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61371&oldid=61369 * KerbalEngineer * (-36) Blanked the page 23:03:00 [[KerbalEngineer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61372&oldid=60896 * KerbalEngineer * (-15) 23:03:27 [[Dimensional]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61373&oldid=61371 * KerbalEngineer * (+53) 23:35:55 -!- b_jonas has quit (Quit: leaving). 23:52:43 -!- zhanx has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 23:59:27 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer).