< 1553817693 56199 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1553817852 712389 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1553819175 530452 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1553819963 227865 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1553820103 434008 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1553820106 976535 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1553820494 665013 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-199-031.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1553820959 952221 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-199-031.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1553821338 965816 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1553826404 936400 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-199-031.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1553826429 867220 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-066-199-031.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1553830154 211389 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1553835088 498270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1553835966 937066 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1553836215 752306 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1553838361 954613 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does hackego do IRP? < 1553838372 601601 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :little enough goes on in that channel anyway.., :( < 1553839895 362448 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzxopyozprqpgxin JOIN :#esoteric < 1553841936 727291 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds > 1553843598 540770 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60788&oldid=60661 5* 03Arcorann 5* (+75) 10/* Description */ < 1553845162 235418 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1553846545 627178 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1553846559 32198 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1553847647 17426 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1553848171 875590 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1553849774 970033 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfgz2ng38e2jxt.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1553851208 957473 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1553851295 515252 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's a bridge building game with exactly the same game design as the ones that we played twenty years ago, only this time it has useless but cheap optional additions such as sharing high scores on the internet or perspective graphics from the viewpoint of the running vehicle. < 1553851319 709323 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the kids who were too young when these games were in fashion twenty years ago seem to enjoy playing it, so why not. < 1553851365 447135 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: what do you mean by "IRP"? < 1553851434 209747 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wiki IRP < 1553851435 114283 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/IRP < 1553851624 6953 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1553853760 521473 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1553854874 469673 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzxopyozprqpgxin QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1553854891 977554 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfgz2ng38e2jxt.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1553857521 926961 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea for a terminal game i could create to play casually while doing otther stuff < 1553857581 581940 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coworker and I made an infinite minesweeper in the terminal game < 1553857600 486902 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that work < 1553857624 10287 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can only see a little bit of it at once, and you get a score based on how much you reveal < 1553857633 879848 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/basile-henry/infinisweep < 1553857926 957649 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting idea < 1553857983 72764 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a pretty simple base for tick-based roguelikes < 1553858005 779465 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure how to make something out of it that's interesting enugh to play but not dangerously enough to die while i am not looking < 1553858216 536422 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fail to build infinisweep x) < 1553858249 513135 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What OS are you on? And which version of GHC? < 1553858459 939837 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's an arch thing. haskell and arch do not work together that well < 1553858519 757527 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it complains about missing data.char :D < 1553858529 669539 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and other obvious things) < 1553858547 642268 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are files missing in the ‘base-4.12.0.0’ package < 1553858566 958837 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reinstalling base fails, though < 1553858585 879870 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a shame :( < 1553858642 509578 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :install base claims here is already base-4.12, reinstalling claims there is not < 1553858656 133250 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know Arch, I'm afraid :( < 1553858674 800229 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1553858683 63253 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex JOIN :#esoteric < 1553858688 271715 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i woudl have to try gradually updating < 1553858702 395416 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will have a look on how to actually force to install a specific version < 1553858782 550263 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[__0] rejecting: base-4.12.0.0, base-4.11.1.0, base-4.11.0.0, base-4.10.1.0, < 1553858782 669259 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :base-4.10.0.0, base-4.9.1.0, base-4.9.0.0, base-4.8.2.0, base-4.8.1.0, < 1553858782 710121 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :base-4.8.0.0, base-4.7.0.2, base-4.7.0.1, base-4.7.0.0, base-4.6.0.1, < 1553858782 710188 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :base-4.6.0.0, base-4.5.1.0, base-4.5.0.0, base-4.4.1.0, base-4.4.0.0, < 1553858782 710216 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :base-4.3.1.0, base-4.3.0.0, base-4.2.0.2, base-4.2.0.1, base-4.2.0.0, < 1553858785 46838 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :base-4.1.0.0, base-4.0.0.0 (only already installed instances can be used) < 1553858787 550825 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[__0] rejecting: base-3.0.3.2 (conflict: base==3.0.3.2, base => base>=4.0 && < 1553858790 54772 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<4.3) < 1553858792 581565 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am pretty confused < 1553858798 395942 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So am I < 1553859024 77868 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets check what happens if i uninstall ghc-libs < 1553859387 81881 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1553859860 647844 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fails to build colour via the build process of infinisweep but i can install colour with cabal just fine < 1553859872 778632 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1553860001 310761 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How were you trying to build it? cabal new-build? < 1553860006 782921 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1553860024 489040 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe make an issue? < 1553860049 37028 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's most likely my setup. i will try on another system < 1553860486 389369 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1553860504 747056 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1553860635 310542 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1553860659 739013 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1553862796 950734 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4b8e1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1553863083 19938 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1553863419 833305 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1553863699 385813 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owcpyqgocbozlurw JOIN :#esoteric < 1553864464 243373 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1553864907 596781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1553865038 728305 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1553866949 722993 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Control Character14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60789&oldid=60787 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+525) 10 < 1553867101 796200 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1553868581 530386 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Control Character14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60790&oldid=60789 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+199) 10 > 1553868593 761251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60791&oldid=60725 5* 03Prof Apex 5* (+226) 10/* Introductions */ > 1553868624 808644 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07AsciiDots14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60792&oldid=58171 5* 03Prof Apex 5* (+84) 10/* More Examples */ > 1553868702 515013 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:EnilKoder14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60793 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+636) 10Created page with "One time, I decided to create my own programming language: enilKode (named after my Scratch username enilK). Recently, I searched on Scratch for an interpreter, and I found a..." > 1553868790 452549 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:EnilKoder14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60794 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+0) 10Created blank page > 1553869019 30752 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07AsciiDots14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60795&oldid=60792 5* 03Prof Apex 5* (+0) 10/* More Examples */ > 1553869280 242852 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07EnilKode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60796&oldid=60555 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+30) 10 > 1553869338 602447 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:EnilKoder14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60797&oldid=60793 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+36) 10 < 1553873751 51435 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1553873767 841224 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1553873815 28805 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1553874670 27039 :vertrex!~vertrex@digital-forensic.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1553874670 109048 :vertrex!~vertrex@digital-forensic.org QUIT :Changing host < 1553874670 109119 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex JOIN :#esoteric < 1553875829 970079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1553876540 55770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://github.com/basile-henry/infinisweep <-- i'd imagine such a game could have the "problem" that after you've opened enough space, you'll be statistically unlikely to again _need_ to make a dangerous choice. does that happen with this? < 1553876581 491147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you could just ignore the dangerous ambiguities but still expand indefinitely. < 1553876651 107046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some might not consider that a problem. after all, tatham's (finite) version by default prevents unresolvable situations from arising.) < 1553876712 288005 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that does happen in practice, after a while < 1553876929 205254 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to still mess up nonetheless < 1553876979 774208 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've been thinking of incorporating a time into the score somehow to mitigate this > 1553877294 338871 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07AsciiDots14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60798&oldid=60795 5* 03Prof Apex 5* (+69) 10/* More Examples */ > 1553877470 697820 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07AsciiDots14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60799&oldid=60798 5* 03Prof Apex 5* (-4) 10/* More Examples */ > 1553877852 989144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Y (programming language)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60800&oldid=60775 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+12) 10Section name < 1553878102 924105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't like puzzle games with time limits < 1553878153 333094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess minesweeper played for time is not really a puzzle game. < 1553878176 641313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reminiscing about back when i played it a lot on windows) < 1553878320 852971 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the original Sokoban was awful :) < 1553878344 3818 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(time limit, single move undo, and one had to reboot to quit) > 1553878516 279541 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Y14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60801&oldid=60773 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+6) 10He's not really The Fox. I think. < 1553878574 306741 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not so much a time limit as a "if you're playing for score you better hustle" > 1553878711 123238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Control character10]]": Author request: Well, I *suspect* the author wants it deleted - it looks a bit weird. < 1553878738 79939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: argh! < 1553878940 830172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's xkcd seems particularly meh < 1553879043 634276 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "Big Data" is spread out over the whole range. ) < 1553879270 665334 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION trollishly remarks "xkcd, is that still going?" < 1553879275 543713 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote xkcd < 1553879276 370784 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :776) * oerjan makes a brainfuck derivative for quoting xkcds < 1553879288 971846 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: was that an idea specifically to piss me off? :D < 1553880760 659442 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah... xkcd... how's that still a thing? < 1553880775 703519 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm still disappointed that there was no John Oliver this week) < 1553881896 221242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't remember. PROBABLY. < 1553882563 746866 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc115608-york6-2-0-cust168.7-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.6+deb1ubuntu0.1 - http://znc.in < 1553882733 692369 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1553882838 704456 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, almost two weeks: long-lived topic < 1553883050 75246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once set the topic on ##nomic and no one else changed it for 364 days. < 1553883075 431255 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( New rule: The topic may only be changed on April 1 ) < 1553883106 994273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which time i had of course started to hope it'd last a year. worst timing ever. < 1553883112 522538 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: seems ironic < 1553883115 930027 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(364 is suggestive) < 1553883149 687949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i set it on Agora's birthday, so for about a year it said "Happy birthday Agora!" < 1553883152 690257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1553883162 898862 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1553883179 117355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or something very close to that.) < 1553883235 194000 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1553883239 789800 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure Charles odgson would be proud. < 1553883279 548434 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hmpf. The D was there but my terminal betrayed me and I deleted it.) < 1553883322 322062 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google unbirthday < 1553883323 138346 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbirthday < 1553883337 346261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok google put it right back in. and then i got annoyed because i didn't realize it was a typo. < 1553883337 815871 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but you can play minesweeper without a time limit < 1553883363 418142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: my mind is bad at ignoring stuff. < 1553883385 775637 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Ignore THIS! ) < 1553883446 595229 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind wandering... Granny Weatherwax had no trouble not to think of a pink elephant (or something like that). She didn't know what an elephant is. < 1553884063 71796 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: single move undo => I think many Sokoban clones have this issue, if there is undo at all < 1553884171 290426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc108439-cowc8-2-0-cust785.14-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1553884171 290504 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc108439-cowc8-2-0-cust785.14-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1553884171 290521 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1553884188 925626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: I'll ignore you until later < 1553884573 373305 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: xsok doesn't (I've spent... many hours... with xsok. I've even modified the xpms ("translucent boxes" so you can distinguish boxes on goals from others) and patched it... good times) < 1553884605 430795 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1553884657 78291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About undo in Sokoban game, well, once Free Hero Mesh is done enough then you could use that, which provides as much undo as you want to. < 1553884680 395395 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owcpyqgocbozlurw QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1553884845 208546 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmm. This is a funny claimer on a webcomic... "No part of this comic may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted by any means without the express written consent of the creator." < 1553884867 45152 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can get behind the first two but I doubt all the carriers have that consent in writing :P < 1553884881 842403 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: though one major time I played Sokoban myself was on a TV when I didn’t know what to do < 1553884891 61264 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the second one should be fun for ISP caches.) < 1553884891 296180 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the license? < 1553884898 135585 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :also which comic? < 1553884909 839154 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: is it transmitted through https so that middle transmitters can't decode or cache it? < 1553884914 493656 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no license. https://theonlyhalfsaga.com/comic/2018/10/02 < 1553885212 146641 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that by putting things on a web server in an easily found location (linked from elsewhere, indexed by search engines) you kind of give an implied license for people to access it... and all the implied transmissions. It's still a funny provision in an online context if taken at face value. < 1553885426 954818 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that holds up legally < 1553885440 746338 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, access sure < 1553885448 603578 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but idk < 1553885469 634269 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally copyright needs to be explicitly relinquished, and in some jurisdictions you can't even do it < 1553885476 612237 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm blathering tho < 1553885489 785149 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what happens when I tab to a new irc window without reading scrollback < 1553885492 947783 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote butts < 1553885494 30358 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1553885505 55926 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, if anything the carriers are being tricked into infringement here... < 1553885506 190237 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sorry < 1553885523 474650 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by me and the comic author :P < 1553885550 823009 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs. < 1553885585 819401 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IANAL. I merley find this amusing because it tickles my logical mind. < 1553885604 851191 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :merely. < 1553885784 318624 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tickling is fun < 1553885817 894869 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my wife is helping out with an apr 1 joke at google (for the employees, not users) < 1553885824 322660 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I guess I'll tell you about after apr 1 < 1553885833 338528 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the kind that is amusing and not annoying, imo < 1553886897 54084 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I should scramble a prank < 1553886899 354650 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's doable < 1553886913 867993 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope) < 1553886945 585362 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigbovik will be on 2019-04-01 too, and the proceedings will probably come out around that time too on the wobsite < 1553886957 541823 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect a few tom7 pieces as always < 1553886990 192725 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1553887023 685042 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! I ran into some Fortran code in the wild the other day, in a program I use, and it's not BLAS or LAPACK < 1553887055 722723 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this ham radio digital mode FT8 and the encoder / decoder that everyone uses is written in Fortran 90 < 1553887075 185174 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the maintainer is an older Nobel prize winning physicist so, fair enough < 1553887082 718453 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's actually a pretty good choice here < 1553887085 692995 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still amused < 1553887092 219296 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not old code > 1553887102 534657 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:Distinguish/Confusion14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60802&oldid=60772 5* 03ZM 5* (+2) 10plural s < 1553887200 360764 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most digi stuff on ham radio works on audio frequency signals that you connect to your normal radio (or to a SDR program using a utility like Virtual Audio Cable) < 1553887218 814415 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has a number of advantages and a number of disadvantages < 1553887271 207619 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sure, just like how modems work, so you can transmit them through the existing analog telephone infrastructure < 1553887327 52784 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1553887331 868211 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a modem < 1553887435 143243 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there's even a case that putting a website online gives Google the right to provide a "cached view" unless instructed otherwise (through robots.txt or using the Google-specific NOARCHIVE meta tag) < 1553887467 576081 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So there is case law for implied licenses in this general area.) < 1553887471 971280 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but google specifically removes those cached copies when they find that the website is no longer available at the original place < 1553887479 469036 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hides it I mean < 1553887488 644024 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no longer distributes it < 1553887508 580399 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm reading that webcomic now. I'm not storing it for later :P < 1553887532 84158 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_v._Google,_Inc. < 1553887582 163258 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And while not directly comparable, that implied license seems even stronger than what I need :) < 1553887595 630299 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means you can transmit digi modes with a 60 year old tube radio, which is cool < 1553887625 781071 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or receive them with a microphone near a pocket shortwave radio, as I did the other day < 1553887719 413269 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :disadvantage, you only get at most about 4 kHz of bandwidth < 1553887737 749587 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this would be the case anyway for reasons of law and ettiquite < 1553887774 207121 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on HF the entire range allocated for data is only like 100 kHz per band < 1553887797 466433 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and on a phone line, you get 56 kHz of bandwidth, and even for that you need a decade's advances in coding and decoding magic to transmit that reliably < 1553887810 818518 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1553887825 561430 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that tech is magic < 1553887828 511435 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most ham modes use pretty simple modulation, e.g. frequency shift keying < 1553887861 348492 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FT8 uses a 8 symbol FSK but there are some fancier tricks on the next protocol layer < 1553887884 523473 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in error correcting code? < 1553887916 612578 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very low bitrate, weak-signal mode so it doesn't need much speed from coding < 1553887919 611561 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1553887930 872807 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a LDPC code < 1553887949 565056 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also transmits a Costas array at the beginning, middle and end of a message < 1553888082 322624 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Costas array is a permutation matrix such that all the distances between 1 elements are distinct < 1553888156 43461 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this allows you to very precisely reconstruct the time and frequency offset of the message, and even account for drift over the 5 seconds or so it takes to send it < 1553888163 20735 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually 12 seconds < 1553888202 12661 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1553889462 39092 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e print 120/15 < 1553889462 896358 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1553889581 670799 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( baba is you is cool indeed ) < 1553889860 885728 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah 1 april and I didn’t get it until now, despite several mentions right here! what to do?.. two days left > 1553889864 960212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BareMinimum14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60803 5* 03Joshop 5* (+1002) 10Created page with "BareMinimum is a programming language with only two operators: subtract and minimum. ==Expressions== All expressions in BareMinimum are in prefix notation. There are two binar..." > 1553889945 227464 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BareMinimum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60804&oldid=60803 5* 03Joshop 5* (+28) 10 > 1553890113 730680 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BareMinimum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60805&oldid=60804 5* 03Joshop 5* (+41) 10 < 1553891446 765123 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e print 100/15 < 1553891447 606036 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.66666666666667 < 1553897373 548760 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh, why does my mood crash randomly < 1553897383 854529 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate being anxious / upset about something and not even knowing what < 1553898032 336015 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds like a setup for a vicious cycle < 1553898130 402642 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1553898220 263718 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost crash when it’s needed to pick something ro buy out of a zillion variants, when descriptions probably lie, user comments are wildly inconsistent and I have to keep in mind the thing chosen would probably stick with me a long time < 1553898252 93561 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :in these cases I hopefully go with friends’ advice if any < 1553898278 757673 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay bye < 1553898484 184011 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The thing that used to worry him most was the fact that people always used to ask him what he was looking so worried about." -- Douglas Adams about Arthur Dent < 1553898539 945014 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.23.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1553899068 324289 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1553899083 696080 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been feeling down because I haven't had a job in a long time, and I really don't want to go back to the software industry < 1553899088 988304 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe I can think of something else to do < 1553899102 499583 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also just because I don't get paid for something doesn't mean it's not worthwhile, for myself or others < 1553899115 280570 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually most of the most worthwhile-to-others things i've done have been not for pay < 1553899129 273368 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on a project right now which i think people will find interesting, and I'm documenting it extensively < 1553899141 184124 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I should feel good about that, I think < 1553899288 295641 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean my life's pretty great in general < 1553899602 824431 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I could contribute to OSS again, I'd feel good about that < 1553899609 116891 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard for me right now for a variety of reasons < 1553899666 652956 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you don't want to go back to the software industry? have you figured out what you want to do instead? < 1553899676 66898 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-78.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm sticking to software < 1553899703 715585 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't < 1553899721 75033 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking about it makes me feel bad < 1553901183 939521 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` quote kmc | shuf < 1553901184 892005 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :967) i don't know what that is so i'm going to assume it's a flavor of pocky \ 1121) at the point where you start looking for a debugger for GNU Make, something has gone seriously wrong in life \ 1119) kmc, I was trying to go to a sci-fi and fantasy society social, and I went to the wrong bar Wound up at my university's fetish society Didn't realise for an hour and a half \ 1005) LIST OF ACRONYMS: List Integrati < 1553902807 297538 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow FORTH programming looks awesome https://i.imgur.com/bql406z.jpg < 1553903259 969472 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might almost merit a NSFW warning < 1553903266 223995 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite being a programming book cover