< 1552695738 141143 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:c4b3:df17:f65b:3fa3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1552695759 279993 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552695926 722741 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1552695932 349279 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1552696471 261506 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:89e7:e726:3d21:6a1c JOIN :#esoteric < 1552698633 86216 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Qutting < 1552698655 291102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played GURPS game today. < 1552698660 689831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1552698660 762136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 3d 23h 26m 50s ago: To answer a question I missed, x86 has always had a fast byte swap for 16-bit values (via `xchg al, ah` and so on), and from 80486 onwards gained a BSWAP instruction < 1552698660 801654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :to swap the endianness of 32-bit and (on x86-64) 64-bit values. < 1552698711 43688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like MOR? < 1552698778 652725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean the MOR instruction in MMIX? It is good to switch endian (including PDP-endian), and other uses. < 1552698795 457847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone care about PDP-endian? < 1552698836 808277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hamster archive files uses PDP-endian for the lump data sizes < 1552700852 183269 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1552701115 122626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now in SQLite they implemented the EXCLUDE clause for window functions, although EXCLUDE CURRENT ROW does not seem a very useful feature to me. However, they also implemented " PRECEDING" and " FOLLOWING" for RANGE type window frames, which does looks like useful to me (and in that case, non-integers make sense, since it is the range of values rather than the number of rows, and the values might not be integers). < 1552704667 891629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite > 1552709596 217119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Cortex14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60516&oldid=60227 5* 03Cortex 5* (+35) 10 < 1552714263 829394 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1552714923 113132 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Quit: I seem to have stopped. < 1552714932 532905 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552719306 223653 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@145.255.2.62 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552728980 395789 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1552729010 940569 :vertrex!~vertrex@digital-forensic.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1552729010 980491 :vertrex!~vertrex@digital-forensic.org QUIT :Changing host < 1552729010 980532 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex JOIN :#esoteric < 1552734728 275127 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfgz2ng38e2jxt.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1552735607 376975 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1552736321 203258 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's a soiree now? < 1552736468 245947 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl JOIN :#esoteric > 1552737898 718457 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DMC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60517&oldid=58741 5* 03DMC 5* (-10) 10 < 1552738300 115742 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552738303 398143 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1552738800 770811 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, the eh author drew art for bobadventures < 1552738963 702693 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552739137 239120 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1552739137 732567 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1552739212 915968 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the worst esolang in general in your opinion < 1552739225 466777 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the hardest, but generally the worst < 1552739242 50893 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1552739262 128551 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552739424 832840 :bobby!~Bob@76.202.115.164 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1552740235 762761 :bobby!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:f4f0:9ea1:e60d:95d7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552740687 533351 :bobby!~Bob@2600:1700:31f0:8180:f4f0:9ea1:e60d:95d7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1552740802 608816 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl - looks like some normal language but unlike other languages, Perl has especially high tendency to turn into line noise. < 1552740853 5413 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really, the worst one? Three star programmer? < 1552740868 423864 :bobby!~Bob@76.202.115.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552740921 107718 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe Rule 110. This has been proven Turing-complete, but really I have no idea how I could use it to multiply two integers. < 1552740955 771354 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ andrew_ < 1552741078 962293 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl is normal < 1552741088 609892 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does often devolve into golfing < 1552741099 910279 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also heyo < 1552741101 759851 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :andrew here < 1552741140 219306 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1552741165 233848 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me the worst one is nullary < 1552741171 885417 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on the settings of your computer < 1552741189 18058 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the line of nit being a language at all < 1552741320 228529 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egiafkuxtbctymae JOIN :#esoteric < 1552741480 797043 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org: Needless to say, Nullary isn't a very practical language. It may be of use to time travellers with a warped sense of humour, or those of a very patient disposition. < 1552741507 885466 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh... yeah... so... < 1552741530 527091 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe let's create another one. The one that executes a program based on planets position? < 1552741645 51293 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1552741666 55588 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :planetary outputs the name of a planet if said planet is at its closest point to earth < 1552741679 711627 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1552741684 700292 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can define your own planets < 1552741759 312229 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the handy dandy notation from slashes < 1552741761 261013 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically < 1552741784 192241 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :planet/distance/perihelion/eccentricity < 1552741786 423026 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the syntax < 1552741868 373538 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1552741873 87119 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can define actions < 1552741894 464555 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm too lazy to make a full fledged esolang) < 1552742323 693477 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will be back within a minute. (syncing chat) < 1552742325 355684 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl QUIT :Quit: TheWild < 1552742423 273253 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1552742482 542914 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :andrew_: maybe not entirely esoteric but you may find the concept interesting: https://gist.github.com/beyondlimits/e00159460b55ea4eff949933a2b7dc8e < 1552742520 752265 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :andrew_: also you can download Logisim and build a computer using *only* N-type or P-type transistors as functional blocks < 1552742533 650612 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooof < 1552742634 822594 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or download Rocks'n'Diamonds, go to the level editor and prove it's Turing-complete. The game allows creation of custom elements, but since it's "programmed" from rules and not via script, it gets quite challenging. Personally I failed. < 1552742686 727779 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, I would bet I've already mentioned the game on this channel but I have nothing in chat logs < 1552742689 891566 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1552742853 429198 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oof < 1552744053 160231 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect "the sequence" and "the sequence 2" to being tc as bullying automatons < 1552745247 187182 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1552746023 741686 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1552750324 808985 :fmease!fmeasematr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-moeujmjkwbsmgvya QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1552750335 198324 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hnidskzaoyonzvtb QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1552750490 953535 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1552750643 596834 :vertrex!~vertrex@digital-forensic.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1552750643 712923 :vertrex!~vertrex@digital-forensic.org QUIT :Changing host < 1552750643 752567 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex JOIN :#esoteric < 1552750798 725553 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1552750905 535130 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egiafkuxtbctymae QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1552750925 740498 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552751016 274672 :fmease!fmeasematr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-uiwqjcqipmxuagmh JOIN :#esoteric < 1552751156 726262 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1552751379 533819 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1552751586 644166 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jskpvjtqtptaiokg JOIN :#esoteric < 1552751809 139473 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552751819 701247 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello there guys, andrew here < 1552751913 248056 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-flueywiblfaggmwa JOIN :#esoteric < 1552753198 444289 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:15] < 1552753226 977026 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:20] <__andrew___> < 1552753604 278079 :andrew_!b2df0c48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.223.12.72 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1552755239 911975 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no! Andrew left. < 1552755312 738198 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have tried Rocks'n'Diamonds before, although it lacks the Hero Mesh property, so that is why I try to make Free Hero Mesh. < 1552755484 194587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Free Hero Mesh? < 1552755713 860410 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what these things are < 1552755846 756294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is the explanation of Free Hero Mesh: http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/heromesh.ui/index < 1552756014 463404 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this explains that the project is not yet complete, its configuration options, keybinding etc. but not *what it is* < 1552756163 84 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a puzzle game engine, for a game involving a rectangular grid no larger than 64x64, which is turn based so that the state depends only on the initial state, game rules, and sequence of moves played; not time or randomness. < 1552756211 261013 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that yet another Golly? < 1552756246 853318 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, my bad - not reading carefully < 1552756296 923292 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, each move played is specified by a 8-bit key code (although future versions might allow coordinate input too, but maybe not). < 1552756338 891680 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, char direction:2, amount:6; < 1552756390 825382 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you mean the keyboard scancode < 1552756408 677432 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't 256 keys on my keyboard < 1552756411 417598 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even 128 < 1552756465 25073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the Windows key code; since Free Hero Mesh is a Linux program though, it converts the key codes according to the user configuration into the corresponding Windows key codes. < 1552756706 63264 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, customizable mapping of keys or buttons is a useful feature, because if your games don't allow it, people will still do it using third-party mapping software, and it doesn't even count as cheating in real-time speedruns as long as they don't use two buttons for an action that the default mapping only has one button so they can mash faster. < 1552756748 608959 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still worth to have default mappings for keyboard and for controller of course, for new players < 1552756783 978630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a default configuration file may be made up < 1552756881 598930 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1552757209 778105 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex JOIN :#esoteric < 1552758582 568076 :DevHackBot!~DevHackBo@88.98.228.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1552758585 868740 :DevHackBot!~DevHackBo@88.98.228.179 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1552758987 449262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: HackEso is now available on #esoteric-blah. < 1552759241 521339 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice! < 1552759294 487561 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`env\ < 1552759294 867236 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: env\: not found < 1552759295 862518 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`env < 1552759296 349092 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HACKENV=/hackenv \ IRC_HOST=catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu \ IRC_IDENT=~x \ IRC_TARGET=#esoteric \ PWD=/hackenv \ HOME=/tmp \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ IRC_NICK=b_jonas \ IRC_MESSAGE=`env \ TERM=linux \ IRC_COMMAND=PRIVMSG \ SHLVL=0 \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1552761091 247489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played GURPS game yesterday. This time we go underground through the basement in the church, but the bald gnomes will not believe us that above the ground the hair is not as valuable as here and you do not need to kill people to cut their hair, and that there is actually two barbers one in day time and one in night time; they think only the barber working in night time. < 1552761245 306108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said I wanted to look in the leper window, but at first the GM did not know what is a leper window but then he look it up in his computer and he learn. < 1552761453 82604 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to sneak into a cementary to sell the hair of the dead for wigs? < 1552761483 48739 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, steal the hair of the dead and sell it for wigs < 1552761649 985639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1552762185 814942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually that was not our intention (just there happens to be the entrance through the church), but yes that could do too, since they are dead and do not need their hair anymore. However, I have no use for it anyways; they can do it themself, and do not have to kill people to get it. Rather my intention was that people who go to barber to get hair cut, you can use their hair. < 1552762290 347751 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the barber already buys the hair, and stealing from the dead in the cementary can be a bad idea because town authorities and lawful gods don't like it, and it may disturb the undead that haunt the cementary < 1552762419 648281 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think the crypts and pyramids of rich dead people have the most treasure but also the most undead curses < 1552762603 110470 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen a lot of pyramid loot in the Kunsthistorisches Museum, Wien. those rich people were buried with a lot of little statuettes. < 1552762609 150406 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and jewelry too < 1552762647 782124 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a lot of photos too, and should process and publish them < 1552762681 463626 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very good photos, because the museum isn't lit too well, and it's also full of other people so it's hard to make photos without other people being on them < 1552762727 817400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you crop them so that only the object of interest is included in the picture, then? < 1552762754 470377 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the problem is that being a museum, almost everything is behind glass, so the people are on the reflections < 1552762761 837851 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only the backgrouns < 1552762773 908412 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, in some cases I have to crop < 1552762781 521507 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in some other cases I had to wait a lot to make a good photo < 1552762812 297239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, although I suppose the reflection would not be avoided (although it would be ideal not to have the reflections of anything, but, you cannot do that, it seem like). < 1552762829 628122 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to return there for like two days after I buy a camera withh a non-small lens < 1552762873 190276 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :helps somewhat with the bad lighting (although some rooms are still too dark that way), and potentially helps a bit with the reflections if I use a polarizer filter < 1552762882 533912 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even then it's hard < 1552762956 150744 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not just the amount of light, but that it comes from windows and spotlights, so there are often reflections of the lights too, not proper diffuse light from multiple directions < 1552762987 210272 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so multiple problems at the same time < 1552763043 517007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I can understand now how you mean, yes it is many < 1552763108 374427 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the darkest rooms aren't even ones with the textiles and wood, it seemed like they're some of the ones containing marble statues or noble metal jewelry, ones that aren't harmed by bright lights < 1552763171 249612 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, technology may help here, because both fluorescent lighting and LED lighting became better recently, so perhaps the museum will have more in a few decades < 1552763203 629587 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, I'm generally sceptical of those things, and prefer good old traditional incandescent or halogen lights, but for lighting such a huge space all day, the modern stuff is cheaper < 1552763222 172041 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do already have fluorescent ceiling lamps of course < 1552763261 180068 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good thing is, there was apparently a project sponsored by Google where they made high quality photos of most of the paintings at least < 1552763317 146267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incandescent light is good for Christmas light because the other ones aren't nice (to save energy, the lights should be flashy), but for the indicator light on many things the LED is better. And, there can be use for fluorescent too. < 1552763349 919270 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indicator light could be led for a very long time, because those don't need to have a decent spectrum < 1552763378 974848 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be narrow band red or green or yellow (or "amber" if you like fancy words) < 1552763392 862843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it doesn't need a decent spectrum, it is what I think too. < 1552763397 24285 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, it was better when they were all read or green or yellow, I hate these new blue indicator lights < 1552763442 509586 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all paintings though, eg. the paradoxical winged altar of which I just uploaded photos https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wien-khm-kunstkammer30-montbeliard-composite.jpg doesn't have good photos yet < 1552763443 898065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the blue one either so much they are used too much. The power light on my computer is blue, but I think green would be better; the blue is bad for sleeping. < 1552763512 438691 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I uploaded them because noisy photos is still better than no photos < 1552763529 939835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1552763538 526869 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't checked all paintings for whether they have photos < 1552763549 97477 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not all paintings obviously < 1552763554 227376 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the selection of which I made photos < 1552763567 2151 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's still just a small fraction of all the paintings they have < 1552763736 477988 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antonio_de_Pereda_-_Allegory_of_Vanity_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg here's an example of a painting that does have a decent photo by the Google Art project < 1552763748 852724 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not perfect, they could have made it higher resolution, but it's good enough < 1552763817 834704 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, the museum has more than one painting about an allegory of vanitas, so you have to be specific < 1552763875 215798 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@145.255.2.62 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1552764104 340173 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jskpvjtqtptaiokg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1552765240 677634 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bucket14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60518&oldid=60450 5* 03Camto 5* (+35) 10Added category. < 1552765532 724712 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc75709-york6-2-0-cust725.7-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1552766095 241929 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash memory and cordless vacuum cleaners are both supposed to be impossible, but everyone uses them now. even I use SD cards. this decade is crazy. < 1552767153 276379 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1552767410 251340 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wait, what word starting with "a" was it that I wanted to look up the pronunciation of? < 1552768644 246547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :amortized hth < 1552768688 678703 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1552768690 226612 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your omnidryad saddle principal ideal golfing toe-obsessed "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty eldrazi grinch is a punctual expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1552769263 724030 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1552770162 967947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: SPOILER WARNING < 1552771438 864140 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1552771736 418907 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: now if you change your mind and I do implement an olist that saves listed strips to the version-controlled fs, I'll make them save ordered pairs of $IRC_TARGET and strip now < 1552773262 960474 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1552773452 911411 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll pretend that I was refreshing my memory :P < 1552774090 183427 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1552775177 154425 :adu_!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1552775371 780422 :adu_!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net NICK :adu < 1552776296 88353 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you bring forth the next o? current strip was ten years ago < 1552776897 985712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( b_jonas seems a little out of synch ) < 1552776985 184103 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1552776986 567810 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ten days < 1552776990 972019 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was strange < 1552778083 230454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1552779027 271104 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfgz2ng38e2jxt.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1552779110 283633 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Memfractal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60519&oldid=50103 5* 03Camto 5* (+1526) 10Add my own spec interpretation. < 1552779264 744157 :TheWild!~Thunderbi@apn-37-7-132-38.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1552779370 397885 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric