< 1551052803 90943 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc75709-york6-2-0-cust725.7-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.6+deb1ubuntu0.1 - http://znc.in < 1551053504 530471 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551053628 393485 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1551053628 505451 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1551054182 810082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does DOS even have a "do not fragment" flag? Otherwise is it even possible to boot from a non-DOS kernel stored there, since the bootloader for the other operating system might not undertsand the DOS file system? < 1551054720 390862 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551055049 471741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it does. IIRC, the SYS command specifically ensures that the two files *DOS* needs to boot (MSDOS.SYS + IO.SYS) are stored contiguously and at the start of the data area. At least on some versions. < 1551055097 743313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I don't think it does have a "do not fragment" flag for files, that is. A lot of bootloaders know how to understand FAT, though. < 1551055686 270040 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: kernel update < 1551055757 491357 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1551056106 717052 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it would be possible with something like LOADLIN which runs as a DOS program < 1551056111 696896 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the LILO approach < 1551056121 216741 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LILO, iirc can boot a kernel off ext2 which is not contiguous < 1551056134 920054 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stashes the fragment addresses somewhere (MBR?) < 1551056588 745208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the sector map is in a file (/boot/map). Not sure how it finds that file though. < 1551056806 969925 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: most likely its own sector address is in the MBR < 1551056812 447838 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's small enough to be guaranteed to be one chunk < 1551056814 73628 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure < 1551056830 422998 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to remember why /boot was traditionally separate anyway < 1551057100 278582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1551057102 46549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 250050Z 27021KT 9999 -SHRA SCT032 OVC047 07/02 Q1030 RMK WIND 670FT 28020G31KT < 1551057344 310941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Problems with accessing all the sectors of large disks via BIOS functions was at least one reason. < 1551057356 809192 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah < 1551057369 935629 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days one has an EFI partition instead < 1551057392 779007 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty salty that they went with EFI rather than OpenFirmware for modern PC hardware < 1551057409 563285 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never tried coding for EFI, although I know it's not that difficult and you can even target it with Rust < 1551057420 248971 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uses PE executables, and there's a large set of system calls available < 1551057428 289057 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really think you could write nontrivial application software to run in EFI < 1551057438 95910 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure if you have access to multiple cores or other fanciness < 1551058649 978862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :MULTIOCULAR CAT FACE WITH HEART-SHAPED EYES < 1551058662 643591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMILING SPIDER FACE WITH HEART-SHAPED EYES < 1551058708 827530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa < 1551058716 265257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one has adopted MAN IN BUSINESS SUIT LEVITATING? < 1551058809 214238 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: re do not fragment flag, if I understand correctly, the S attribute on files is or was interpreted by defragmenters as a sign to not move the file, as in, keep all clusters where it currently resides, and this was relied on by past bootloaders that are like lilo in that they load the system files from fixed locations, < 1551058821 483929 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BULLET WITH BUTTERFLY WINGS < 1551058888 534700 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the boot loader of current versions of DOS actually parse the root directory and the FAT enough that this is no longer necessary, except possibly on ancient disks with sectors smaller than 512 bytes. < 1551058917 121146 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION implemented FAT12 once for a course project < 1551058919 14934 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really not hard < 1551058941 558378 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sure, but you also have to implement fat16 to boot from a hard disk < 1551058946 811633 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1551058971 169270 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh you only have to implement the part that reads, not the part that writes, and you don't need to descend into directories, because the files needed at boot are in the root directory < 1551059035 572968 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS can also boot from a compressed filesystem, in which case I believe the three system files will be marked such that they aren't compressed, but I don't know the details of this, because I never tried to set that up, I only made file systems other than the boot fs compressed < 1551059060 756178 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also at least one third-party software that makes DOS support a custom file system and lets it boot from it < 1551059204 729091 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, which one? < 1551059217 649681 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a separate /boot is practical for various reasons. I use a separate boot because I use grub-l, which doesn't understand ext4, but my root file system is ext4. one could use a separate /boot so that the boot loader doesn't have to understand RAID, or EFI partition tables, or even access the boot disk on hardware level at, or to boot from hard disk but use an nfs mount for most of the file system, etc < 1551059252 842711 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1551059253 835305 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to boot using loadlin, which uses the underlying DOS to read the kernel (and initrd), and DOS only reads FAT-12 and FAT-16 < 1551059265 592893 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for RAID servers, I like to put the bootloader on a USB stick < 1551059304 293127 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a server with full disk encryption, and the USB stick had both the bootloader and the encryption key. so it was capable of unattended boot, but I could take the USB stick out and ship the rest of it cross-country without worrying about my data being read < 1551059338 77708 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, at one point I even booted windows 95 from a floppy disk, to avoid having to set up and maintain a bootloader that can choose between booting DOS and Win95 and Linux on the same machine and hard disk. < 1551059364 768477 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1551059381 733333 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BITD i used loadlin and my 'bootloader' menu was in AUTOEXEC.BAT < 1551059385 408892 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Win98/Linux < 1551059397 897183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows 98 was tg < 1551059404 344193 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :later on I triple booted Win98/Win2k/Linux and used NTLDR as my first bootloader < 1551059412 103893 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like you said above, boot loaders these days contain a whole operating system, so there are few things for which you'd need a separate /boot if you're willing to trust the boot loader < 1551059416 23018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :🎿👢🥾 < 1551059423 42683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :triple boot < 1551059435 748139 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was surprisingly easy. you'd install LILO/GRUB into the non-master boot record, dd those 512 bytes onto the NT drive and you're ready < 1551059466 169264 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just Win98/Linux is fine. that's what all the Linux distributions were geared to support, to get people into Linux. I did triple boot among DOS, Linux, and Win95OSR2, and I didn't quite trust the Win95 enough, so its boot went on the floppy < 1551059491 915915 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to remember if she had any other weird boot setups < 1551059513 791640 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written my own MBR programs < 1551059515 974687 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bootloaders though < 1551059516 682345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when you used windows nt as your kernel with linux userspace < 1551059516 772597 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :demos < 1551059517 34162 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh! Win98/Win2k/Linux triple book. nice. < 1551059527 868998 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if by "when" you mean "now"? < 1551059530 552796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1551059539 417169 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm literally talking to you through mosh in WSL < 1551059541 17796 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Win10 < 1551059548 260121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am aware < 1551059550 872880 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1551059558 955366 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I tried too. I wrote one that just wrote a message on the screen. < 1551059580 538057 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I switched back to Windows last year after 15 years as a die-hard Linux user < 1551059589 516088 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this shocked my friends much more than me changing gender < 1551059610 545398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if you had a single-use halting oracle what would you ask it twh < 1551059637 532287 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can entropy be reversed < 1551059672 613753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1551059690 606747 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The grub-l setup is hopelessly obsolete. I'd have to get rid of it if I used a boot hard disk larger than two terabytes, but that might not happen soon: even if I buy larger hard disks, the boot disk will probably be one of the two I have now. < 1551059698 241200 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's grub-l < 1551059712 505749 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's the collective name for the grub versions with major version number 0 < 1551059719 90790 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :any grub that isn't grub2 or grub4dos < 1551059737 715635 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :grub with 1 in its version number counts as grub2 before it was released < 1551059738 29440 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1551059747 218130 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's just old grub < 1551059752 411250 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1551059791 92157 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably want to switch to grub2 for my next computer even if grub-l could technically work though, as a way to introduce redundancy so that I can boot quickly if the boot hard disk dies. < 1551059850 426933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ugh, now my Fugue hello world has got stuck in my head again < 1551059852 89303 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1332) ugh, now my Fugue hello world has got stuck in my head again < 1551059895 910758 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? module < 1551059896 964867 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A module is like a vector space, except with a ring instead of a field. < 1551059912 387833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits module < 1551059913 932540 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän < 1551059923 262201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's the joke twh < 1551059940 136236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg module < 1551059941 887985 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6169:2015-11-02 learn A module is like a vector space, except with a ring instead of a field. < 1551059987 3221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vector space < 1551059988 188078 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A vector space is just a module over a field. < 1551059989 372021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1551060128 987533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lie bracket < 1551060131 382982 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Politicians try to stay within the lie bracket: Not so many lies that voters cannot stand it, but not so few that they think you have nothing to give them. < 1551060141 306670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg lie bracket < 1551060142 924965 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6174:2015-11-02 le/rn lie bracket/Politicians try to stay within the lie bracket: Not so many lies that voters cannot stand it, but not so few that they think you have nothing to give them. < 1551060150 986909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this entry outdated twh < 1551060265 203018 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we could amend it s/Poli/Most poli/ < 1551060283 171544 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't completely true in the past either, there were always some exceptions < 1551060300 297079 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who pinged me? < 1551060311 127083 :SomethingFawful!63eb15ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.235.21.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1551060339 575637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When? < 1551060348 390627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was an olist and a pbflist < 1551060364 615604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : how can entropy be reversed <-- i think shachaf is subtly hinting that the oracle only gives one bit of answer. < 1551060366 327098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were talking about Ada, maybe you have a highlight on that? < 1551060467 434819 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the olist was almost a week ago < 1551060490 788177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: what's the joke twh <-- hm i guess there isn't one. < 1551060542 26982 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Let's be honest, OS choice is _clearly_ more significant and invariant than gender, anyways < 1551060564 397352 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm not surprised on anyone switching back to windows. windows has changed a lot, and hardware too. < 1551060574 495699 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are people who dual-boot gender < 1551060576 950180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There as one, see below. < 1551060579 656016 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: indeed < 1551060581 565952 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of computer environment things changed. < 1551060586 119934 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and linux has changed too, and not for the better < 1551060588 50623 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s y s t e m d < 1551060590 684194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1551060594 853701 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm still not free, because WSL runs systemd :( < 1551060604 41749 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not changing to windows, but I can at least understand it better < 1551060606 490723 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another advantage of windos is that more of the weird ham radio software runs in windows < 1551060616 80773 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an easier switch than I thought < 1551060619 195111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all operating systems are bad < 1551060619 283894 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a slippery slope < 1551060623 576231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a result of being software < 1551060628 899625 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :got a new laptop, thought "hm I'll poke around Win10 while I decide which distro to install" < 1551060632 952110 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"might as well get chrome" < 1551060641 445274 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was required to do a lot of things on windows for work, in my current job and my previous job too < 1551060643 449405 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hey this is actually usable. what, there's a tiling WM built in?" < 1551060654 105829 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you could still use both windows and linux < 1551060656 654898 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wow it boots fast and the battery life is incredible" < 1551060663 551295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: There as one, see below. <-- i'm not convinced i considered it a joke when writing it. or now. < 1551060665 143042 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let's try out this WSL thing" < 1551060665 207690 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like computers or disks are so expensive that you can't have both < 1551060668 913405 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1551060675 143792 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have literally only needed actual Linux one time < 1551060677 390224 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I used a VM < 1551060684 173217 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even really need it then < 1551060692 498526 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just easier than figuring out how to install adb in Windows < 1551060704 350316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, they were added within two minutes of each other. > 1551060717 397586 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Cortex/draft14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60075&oldid=58971 5* 03Cortex 5* (-811) 10Blanked the page < 1551060741 37905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1551060742 292110 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1551060788 181251 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; cd wisdom; find -type l -printf "%p -> %l\n" # should all of these symlinks in wisdom exist? < 1551060788 937419 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./СССР -> ссср \ ./the usual suspect -> usual suspect \ ./perpetuum mobile -> perpetual motion machine \ ./r.i.p. -> rip \ ./☆ -> * \ ./h4gb4rd -> hagb4rd \ ./issue -> .doorstop \ ./the reals -> real \ ./off by two error -> off by two \ ./wolfram -> stephen wolfram < 1551060798 478452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1551060839 768728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? * < 1551060840 911546 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twinkle, twinkle, little star! < 1551060898 644972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um, neither is a joke. a vector space really _is_ just a module over a field. < 1551060928 943829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither is a joke individually, the joke is the two definitions taken together. < 1551060936 197547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Circular definitions. Is the joke. > 1551060954 217176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pyhton (sic)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60076&oldid=60074 5* 03Something Fawful 5* (+95) 10aded categories < 1551060990 587847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? applicative functor < 1551060991 740501 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative functors are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1551061049 895495 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually the module one is sort of a joke. just not a very good one. < 1551061050 346587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1551061117 914477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your jokes are good and you should feel good hth < 1551061130 880147 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than mine at least < 1551061137 756655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 < 1551061139 470524 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:1005) LIST OF ACRONYMS: List Integrating Some Terminology Of Fine Authentic Credibility Relating to Our New Year Media System \ 505) Isn't "strip nomic" just another word for all dating, though? \ 481) game where you flip a coin but it's really really big \ 856) i like the idea that if you name your country a Soviet Republic you automatically get the right to call up Lenin on the telephone and complain about bathroom pranks < 1551061154 474074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1551061155 221410 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2: \ 195) hey speaking of young, some kinds asked me to buy some tobacco for them and i did, and then they were all likd "wow that guy's coool" when i told them i don't need their money < 1551061164 625782 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if I even have a good joke somewhere in there. maybe the vacuum tube one isn't good either. < 1551061169 795157 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie I like your remark < 1551061389 767099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use Windows or Linux if you want (since many programs can run on both anyways), or dual-boot if you want, but I find Linux is mostly much better than Windows (although there is also stuff that both Linux and Windows do badly, as well as stuff that work better with Windows, but mostly Linux is much better). < 1551061412 453801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : there's a hungarian notation version of LOGO? <-- now i'm wondering what prefixes it uses. iirc Logo itself already uses : as a sigil < 1551061421 41780 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I've found is that running Linux on a laptop is just hell. < 1551061433 482987 :simeon28!~simeon@public-255-137.nat.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1551061457 499929 :simeon28!~simeon@public-255-137.nat.utoronto.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1551061465 868835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might also prefer to purchase a computer with Linux already installed. (I purchased the computer I am using now it came with Linux already installed. Although, it is not a laptop computer, but they also sell laptop computers with Linux, too) < 1551061513 76666 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551061650 674007 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1551061673 976550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hlnp < 1551061674 601917 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowrevs="$(/usr/bin/paste -sd'|' /hackenv/share/scowrevs)"; hg log -r "tip:0 & ! ($scowrevs)" "$@" | sed 's/\(\(^\| \)[. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1551071272 692513 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've probably seen me on #haskell once or twice? < 1551071327 814111 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been a passive observer of esolangs before, written a location-based BF, and i have something like half a spec together for a language based on Linda < 1551071337 12894 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i guess just looks like a weird platonic Erlang < 1551071357 762309 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never was too active here though < 1551072528 708202 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: musl reveals a few bugs in it. > 1551072555 921681 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Increment14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60077 5* 03Cortex 5* (+492) 10Created page with "'''Increment''' == Commands == {| class="wikitable" |- ! Character !! What it does |- | Any character except the ones listed below || Increment the accumulator by the charact..." < 1551072571 105084 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the main one I know is that it has the wrong x87 settings, and since musl's libm uses long doubles, it actually ends up showing that. < 1551072630 856388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nfd9001: What is the half of the spec so far? < 1551072671 848066 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Screen has the wrong settings? in what sense < 1551072679 782632 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, it's handwritten, sec < 1551072690 408875 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, I mean WSL has this bug < 1551072695 475254 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.3.137.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1551072701 189025 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1551072836 850672 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465424725146075136/549463743395004416/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465424725146075136/549463882922721311/unknown.png no discussion of syntax in here yet, but i can get to the general idea < 1551072914 633390 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, you should be imaging a Linda-like tuplespace on which abstract processes are trying to pull tuples that match patterns. Their output is just committing more tuples to the bag < 1551072986 336522 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ("word", x, y, z) -> (z, "otherword", x, x) could describe a machine that matches a tuple where x, y, and z are free variables, then sticks them into the pattern of its output on the right < 1551072999 710204 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it goes right back into the same bag < 1551073034 757446 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine an efficient compiler would try to inline work, and then it'd all be managed from "the bag" by a work-stealing scheduler < 1551073123 642014 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :side effects/atomic actions could be performed by passing tuples to "special machines" you pass arguments and a callback name < 1551073151 772504 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like (cat, a, b, callback) -> (callback, a+b) < 1551073242 743865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I can see what you mean now < 1551073277 455604 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's far from a fully-baked idea < 1551073296 972617 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably could use some sort of a combinator < 1551073347 929156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1551073623 116721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly multiple tuples in either side of the definition (especially if machines are selected at random)? < 1551073648 431635 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, no guaranteed order < 1551073700 900249 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or we could instead explicitly make curried machines, ie. matching on one machine creates another machine which does its work and then stops watching the bag < 1551073739 927859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, you could do that then if you want to do, I suppose < 1551073810 970756 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way, I'd imagine that a machine can only wait on one tuple match at once, so as to avoid deadlock < 1551073851 131590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1551074133 251333 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or we can have some machine that can glom together two tuples < 1551074167 451802 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whichever way you slice it, it kind of hurts the platonic beauty of the thing. I can't really decide which way to go < 1551074185 196409 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm ok with the idea of one machine outputting multiple tuples, conceptually. It'd make perfect sense in Linda < 1551074250 235385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, you can try < 1551074292 122574 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd kiiiiiinda lean towards curried machines being the prettiest solution (maybe then offering uncurried machines as syntactical sugar) < 1551074307 617714 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems best that i write all that down before I start implementing, haha < 1551074355 694727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, write down before implementing, perhaps write it on the computer. Yes, curried could do < 1551074533 678899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this still the F-algebra thing? < 1551074545 972872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo T-algebras are where it's at < 1551074549 412687 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, this is an older idea I had < 1551074609 755391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nfd9001: shouldn't a language based on Linda be anything _but_ platonic hth < 1551074615 435091 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sounds fishy < 1551074621 639416 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get it? haha < 1551074641 308592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no tdnh < 1551074651 422026 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think i'll literally use a Linda implementation as a backend < 1551074664 981449 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1551074682 664692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's fishy? < 1551074693 209659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, whoa, bellingham < 1551074746 261884 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :T >=> T < 1551074768 784651 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hahah DO you know me? < 1551074780 302902 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf knows all < 1551074790 623173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a fish? < 1551074797 317940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Haskell? < 1551074799 868234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fish < 1551074800 85141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confusil < 1551074801 41533 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come and dance and love the fish! Mister Disco summoned it. < 1551074807 231695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits fish < 1551074808 860226 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsweẗt < 1551074810 248927 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell programmers pronounce Klesli composition "fish" < 1551074811 458265 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1551074843 35190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kleisli < 1551074843 428385 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ray says: enlarge your kleisli arrow, please the category ladies < 1551074850 527230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1551074851 374197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kleisli < 1551074851 765125 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ray says: enlarge your kleisli arrow, please the category ladies < 1551074859 297210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@forget ray enlarge your kleisli arrow, please the category ladies < 1551074859 733674 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1551074862 188708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kleisli < 1551074862 553466 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk says: i'm MUCH happier with a comonad that lives in the kleisli category of some monad, or a monad that lives in the cokleisli category of a comonad, than I am with a distributive law that < 1551074862 737035 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :all it can do is ensure that things are 'maximally terrible' in terms of how much work you do < 1551074881 749824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote >=> < 1551074882 111555 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: Then you just compose them Uh-oh, Tekmo is going to >=> using Kleisli composition < 1551074957 782760 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: where'd you come up with Bellingham? stalking my ip/hn/reddits/github/whatever? < 1551074972 267007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, trying to figure out if I know you. < 1551074979 175016 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like this nick isn't totally transparent < 1551074995 339073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1551075002 288487 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my name's right on my github < 1551075027 230237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1551075043 743376 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No fun, your name should be [redacted] < 1551075066 71771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ted Redac < 1551075075 74896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I shouldn't say personally identifying things in a public channel anyway, sorry. < 1551075093 902480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Redac, Ted in publication lists < 1551075094 747742 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, not everyone's okay with that < 1551075106 440665 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly one that's publicly logged < 1551075435 569746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hikhq < 1551075438 774943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's [redacted]? < 1551075524 675810 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going pretty well, really < 1551076106 413686 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1551077181 227929 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Thue-Mirr14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60078&oldid=59784 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+1) 10spacing < 1551078296 435602 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551078578 397039 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1551078802 112596 :chal_!49fcd62f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.252.214.47 JOIN :#esoteric > 1551079194 590934 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Cortex14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60079&oldid=59925 5* 03Cortex 5* (+16) 10 > 1551079358 18802 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60080&oldid=59944 5* 03Cortex 5* (+43) 10 > 1551079780 210870 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Thue-Mirr14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60081 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+2036) 10Hello World, and termination < 1551081316 197257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1551081441 939539 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551083770 865568 :chal_!49fcd62f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.252.214.47 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1551086156 860073 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tswpkugllycadjzs JOIN :#esoteric < 1551087749 824643 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1551092518 323891 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have decided rather than figuring out which characters I need to display next to a placeholder ◌ < 1551092537 392377 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will display all characters next to a ◌ < 1551092542 210340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: how do the cool kids render text nowadays twh < 1551092553 262569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they use signed distance fields < 1551092567 956405 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: charcoal on wood < 1551092610 217049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? char < 1551092611 556225 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Char is a prominent component of charcoal. < 1551092729 371786 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imgur.com/w0VTpPD < 1551092773 373016 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bdf edit program is almost perfect < 1551092880 526399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdf = boring distance fields? < 1551093013 931407 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitmap Distribution Font or something < 1551093021 604357 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a font format < 1551093070 696748 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyph_Bitmap_Distribution_Format < 1551093337 567487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard bézier curves are where it's at, though < 1551093358 486301 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to do in a low-resolution bitmap < 1551093387 754320 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hard to display in a terminal < 1551093426 731706 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the "hi res" version above the main editing field is cheating using braille < 1551093457 741697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you displaying in a terminal? < 1551093631 171395 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://paste.ee/p/BjY2I < 1551093644 845049 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so I can edit my font in a terminal < 1551093714 534744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1551093867 918562 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so that it can be the only font by terminals, for terminals < 1551094011 846642 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: will it work on my receipt printer? < 1551094131 36971 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: might work < 1551094171 32341 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what format recipt printers take their fonts in < 1551094206 522282 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither am I tbq < 1551094207 496549 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1551094416 285168 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I would think 16x9 would be a pixel size they would support < 1551094770 4063 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tswpkugllycadjzs QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1551096713 663846 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551096893 468982 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1551096893 903879 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1551100980 698386 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-opqvrnreqmtcyoul JOIN :#esoteric > 1551104317 745161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60082&oldid=60015 5* 03A 5* (+296) 10/* Continuation on the above by User:Helen */ > 1551104510 915283 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60083&oldid=60082 5* 03A 5* (+80) 10/* The attempt will not work, unfortunately */ > 1551104559 444012 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60084&oldid=60083 5* 03A 5* (+1) 10/* The attempt will not work, unfortunately */ < 1551106110 76181 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551106113 476092 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bobadventureslist http://bobadventures.comicgenesis.com/d/20190223.html < 1551106114 254257 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bobadventureslist http://bobadventures.comicgenesis.com/d/20190223.html: b_jonas < 1551107043 483865 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.54.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551107917 616914 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551108762 561042 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-opqvrnreqmtcyoul QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1551109028 281512 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc75709-york6-2-0-cust725.7-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1551109606 466143 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551112307 538205 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1551114219 962946 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iacahjopjnyxneiu JOIN :#esoteric < 1551115198 918050 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1551115550 438659 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc108439-cowc8-2-0-cust785.14-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551115550 521139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc108439-cowc8-2-0-cust785.14-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1551115550 521217 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1551117900 915729 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1551118122 566664 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551119013 144466 :dingwat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-necthraxpzglljqy JOIN :#esoteric < 1551119340 69255 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( iff and only iff ) < 1551119602 51150 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At some point I shoudl refactor my font processing tools so they are more generic < 1551119638 567983 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, not hardcoding the size of the font at 9 by 16 < 1551119681 447169 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.3.137.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1551119784 867101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you should probably allow other sizes < 1551119808 129815 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it support 16-bit characters or only 8-bit characters? < 1551119841 232130 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: currently processes everything as 32-bit encoding numbers < 1551119884 393018 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is an arbitrary limit at 0x20000 in my editor < 1551119942 501589 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the limit shoudl probaby be something else < 1551119956 757648 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the maximum unicode code point < 1551119975 913877 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10FFFF < 1551119980 257028 :tromp_!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551120037 805574 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the BDF format doesn't actually specify what the encoding is though < 1551120051 174389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although you might want to use some coding other than Unicode. The .pcf format supports 16-bit characters, and the X font system also does (although maybe .bdf allows any number of characters; I don't know) < 1551120090 710314 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bdf uses a text format with decimal numbers for code points so theoretically it could be any number < 1551120109 674119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Yes, and that is why 0x10FFFF is perhaps too low (although in order to support Unicode, it should be at least that high) < 1551120139 903060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still you may limit it to 32-bit numbers, even if the file format allows higher numbers. < 1551121237 53985 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.6 < 1551121430 404719 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551121676 578652 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Client Quit < 1551121797 428337 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551122002 308940 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iacahjopjnyxneiu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1551122505 585189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a idea if in some roguelike game that you can fly, but, while flying, you cannot go through doors (even if open), pick up objects, make melee attacks against opponents on the ground, and maybe also you cannot cast some spells, but you can go faster and go over water and statues (but not walls), and it takes time to go up or to land. < 1551123037 782571 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1551123247 450498 :aloril_!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6a1c-218.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1551123452 187430 :aloril__!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6ae3-54.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1551124003 357995 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct, in particular in a font you could assign a higher number to a glyphs that isn't the default glyph for any character, but is either a variant for a character, or a ligature. but practically, you probably can't encode those to a BDF/PCF font in a way that terminals will use it, so that only comes up in OTF and other fonts. < 1551124201 100890 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question. Mozart's ''Die Entführung aus dem Serail'' opera is very popular. "Pedrillo" is the name of a good guy in it. How come then that that name is virtually unused for anything else? Character names in popular fiction works usually get picked up and used as named for real people. < 1551124235 804425 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not the only such name from Mozart's operas, but the one where it seems the most strange.) < 1551125566 757492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1551125593 941677 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, another question. Is there a theatre play with no scenes, played entirely with the curtains closed? < 1551126639 127561 :bbb_!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551126640 350091 :bbb_!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hello < 1551126644 286102 :bbb_!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION says hello < 1551126657 546114 :bbb_!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duolingo.com < 1551126675 738535 :bbb_!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :Guest16203 < 1551126685 517142 :Guest16203!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1551126687 989166 :Guest16203!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!?!?!?!?!? < 1551126697 258296 :Guest16203!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :ijkajskajkjkjkj < 1551126709 233563 :ijkajskajkjkjkj!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :Vala < 1551126721 83487 :Vala!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :vala_iksan < 1551126748 211474 :vala_iksan!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mitti iksan! < 1551126797 520654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Is that like the theatre equivalent of 4'33"? < 1551126830 550051 :vala_iksan!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "i am an idiot" < 1551126834 105849 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, I don't think so < 1551126834 795057 :vala_iksan!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a fictional language < 1551126847 588052 :vala_iksan!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :me < 1551126850 175872 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it doesn't have to be silent or lacking visuals. actors can come in front of the curtain, lit, < 1551126871 173864 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actors can speak audibly in front of the curtain, or even behind the curtain, although the latter can be harder < 1551126876 692605 :me!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :Guest10559 < 1551126879 482930 :Guest10559!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :hello < 1551126885 340056 :hello!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :jhjchfseucfnher < 1551126890 87083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see, I interpreted "scenes" more broadly. < 1551126892 92458 :jhjchfseucfnher!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :iiiiiikkiiiiiii < 1551126896 619313 :iiiiiikkiiiiiii!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok done now what < 1551126902 91571 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that all of it is done as if it were an introduction or transmission between scenes < 1551126931 424419 :iiiiiikkiiiiiii!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a default, general channel on this < 1551126950 509341 :iiiiiikkiiiiiii!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like not from a website or anything < 1551126960 627685 :iiiiiikkiiiiiii!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :iqi < 1551126973 151923 :iqi!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1551126981 699373 :iqi!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :q2 < 1551126984 979790 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a possible equivalent of 4'33" would be a play or opera with no _acts_, where the audience doesn't even enter the theater hall, they only have conversations with other people on the corridors of the theater < 1551126994 48745 :q2!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1551127069 42896 :q2!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1551127098 654361 :q2!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 NICK :a35 < 1551127113 752005 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rsqtguclyefkvqqe JOIN :#esoteric < 1551127126 207491 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rytsas! < 1551127134 687840 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been using duolingo lately < 1551127156 618583 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this idea < 1551127173 752889 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the feeling that the no act one has been done already < 1551127185 232636 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sorry < 1551127189 495725 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the no act one probably hasn't been done < 1551127195 456784 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :charge for tickets, people come in wearing their fancy theater clothes, buy drinks, take their seats, lights go down, lights go right back up, intermission, repeat < 1551127198 32079 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the no scene one probably has been done < 1551127200 313204 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly several times < 1551127207 412021 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a good racket < 1551127221 405153 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are definitely theater plays with only one actor, I've even seen one < 1551127245 685223 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's at least one opera with only two solo singers incidentally < 1551127341 505180 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xxxcxKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK < 1551127349 70623 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :outputs idk newlines < 1551127365 908872 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anybody is actually using esolangs.org here < 1551127590 157693 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your ↄ program fails to execute, what language is it? < 1551127670 220577 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a35: we don't use that site, except for the channel logs. we pretty much keep it as a trashcan so that the people who want to write down their really bad ideas have some place to put it, rather than vandalizing wikipedia or some other important site. < 1551127724 489740 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep it in microsoft word < 1551127729 996997 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :them < 1551127738 346991 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I think a few people use the bfjoust hill there < 1551127788 94372 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ais declared that the hill is now pretty much optimized < 1551127792 296376 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe not that either < 1551127833 644725 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, do you hear that < 1551127838 890946 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4'33" < 1551128025 361361 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1551128115 333662 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[] < 1551128151 30473 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im gonna play nethack im getting bored < 1551128156 532054 :a35!cfb5d56d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.181.213.109 QUIT : < 1551128953 224527 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's use abstractions < 1551128961 514273 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make everything overly general < 1551129359 34865 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I need is a program that I can pipe things through that will put a timestamp on each line < 1551129380 615639 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1551129387 529960 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreutils has that < 1551129389 963057 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called ts, iirc < 1551129393 151900 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a standard unix program that can do this or < 1551129399 897973 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool < 1551129423 18602 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: perl -pe '$_=time()."\t".$_' < 1551129539 382414 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets a bit uglier if you want to use fractions of a second or a specific date format though < 1551129557 182517 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a great deal uglier < 1551132467 698254 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1551132610 136551 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551132617 64287 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551132635 66584 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1551132640 953934 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1551133248 760652 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice < 1551133267 142612 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :temperature is predicted to be above zero for the next four days now. < 1551133284 771311 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's still a little wind, but not too bad < 1551133973 935601 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1551134884 143248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551135250 518499 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1551135263 482798 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551135268 33861 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1551136718 348688 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-5.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1551136956 501922 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Plugnburn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60085&oldid=36923 5* 03Plugnburn 5* (+113) 10Added EcmaByter reference > 1551137057 447486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BytePusher14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60086&oldid=58086 5* 03Plugnburn 5* (+157) 10/* Machines */ added EcmaByter < 1551138068 851345 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Qutting < 1551138439 644870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it was the warmest February day in the UK since ever. < 1551138467 354401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four of the met office measurement stations recorded >= 20°C. < 1551138508 221206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBC has some nice "a year ago vs. today" picture pairs at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47360952 < 1551138827 278370 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds