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01:49:10 <tswett> oren_: business cards tell people what you do and how to contact you.
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02:41:19 <shachaf> `wisdom
02:41:20 <HackEgo> webcarting/webcarting is not dissimilar to Mario Kart, but uses real, remote-controlled go-karts. Participants describe it as "the outlandish spectacle of real go-karting combined with the thrill and immersion of Mario Kart".
02:47:39 <oren_> tswett: I know that, but when should I offer one?
02:50:01 <zzo38> Is there such a thing as a FireWire->RF converter?
02:51:11 <oren_> uh... what sort of signal is being converted?
02:51:25 <zzo38> FireWire video signal
02:51:33 <zzo38> With IEEE-1394
02:51:51 <zzo38> And to convert into analog RF TV cable signal
02:53:26 <oren_> http://www.amazon.com/Canopus-ADVC-110-adapter-FireWire/dp/B001LOO4O2
02:56:14 <zzo38> Also I should want to output any VHF TV channel 2-13, so that a VCR can be programmed to record from any channel
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03:12:58 <pikhq> zzo38: A D-VHS recorder would suffice.
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03:45:49 <tswett> oren_: whenever you want someone to be able to contact you, I guess?
03:46:31 <tswett> I don't think it could be seen as inappropriate to offer a business card. If they're not interested, they can just discard it later.
03:47:12 <zzo38> Or, they should tell you they don't want it, if they don't want it, and then you can save it to give to someone else instead possibly
03:47:49 <tswett> That would be kind of ungracious, though.
03:51:05 <tswett> I wouldn't refuse a business card unless I were completely sure that the other person wouldn't be upset or offended at all.
03:52:05 <zzo38> I wouldn't care; I would just refuse it if I didn't need it (unless they have far more than they need anyways). But if I gave someone business card I would try to ensure that they can give it back if they don't need it. OK
03:54:47 <zzo38> Originally my plan was to make RULECARD out of S-expressions, but now my idea is to make it out of RDF instead. I intended to have that the extensions in the program (the program consists of a set of extensions) are commutative and idempotent, and that any extension can be further extended, and namespaces and private/public and a few other things. RDF already does this automatically though, therefore I can use RDF instead.
04:01:30 <tswett> I think I'd say that refusing a business card is tantamount to outright stating you're not actually interested in contacting the person.
04:01:37 <tswett> Which I guess may or may not be a bad thing.
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04:03:04 <zzo38> tswett: Yes, it may or may not be a bad thing; it can depend on many thing. Or maybe, you just don't contact them for business, and you already know their home telephone number (because they told you before). There can be more than one way.
04:03:16 <tswett> Right.
04:17:00 <oren_> I see... that helps. 
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04:40:36 <tswett> Man. So I've been thinking about how to create the Ultimate Computer Language.
04:41:04 <zzo38> Do you know any idea how to do?
04:41:33 <tswett> What I've come up with so far is a language that lets you define "sketches" (which are more or less varieties of algebraic structures) and morphisms between them (essentially functors).
04:42:16 <tswett> This already includes all the basic non-recursive parts of Haskell.
04:42:59 <zzo38> I think you should need macros as well; programming language generally better by having macros, in my opinion .
04:43:28 <tswett> I'm hoping to completely obviate the need for macros.
04:43:33 <zzo38> Although what you have seem good, but you should make example so that I can understand them more better
04:43:50 <tswett> I haven't fully figured it out myself.
04:45:00 <zzo38> Then you must learn.
04:46:01 <tswett> A lot of stuff can be seen as morphisms between sketches. There's a sketch which just means "a type", so defining a type is the same as defining a morphism from the empty sketch to the "a type" sketch.
04:48:14 <tswett> It looks like defining a polymorphic function is essentially defining a sketch morphism which has certain properties.
04:49:01 <tswett> Sketches attempt to define categories, but sketches seem to have some pretty interesting categorical structure themselves.
04:50:34 <tswett> Whelp, I had better go to bed. I need to get up early tomorrow morning and I'm already up late.
04:50:36 <tswett> Night, everyone.
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10:58:33 <boily> hellørjan. the drought continues?
10:59:04 <oerjan> a very wet drought
10:59:24 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
10:59:25 <lambdabot> ENVA 261050Z 28015KT 9999 SCT013 BKN024 11/08 Q1017 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 29016KT
11:00:06 <boily> I was refering to the fungotlack hth
11:00:07 <oerjan> actually by the weather forecast it's supposed to be dry now, but no one seems to have told the pavement.
11:00:10 <oerjan> oh.
11:00:33 <boily> btw, this looks like reasonable Norweather.
11:00:38 <oerjan> hard to fix with fizzie AWOL
11:00:57 <boily> @metar CYUL
11:00:57 <lambdabot> CYUL 261000Z 01005KT 30SM FEW100 FEW240 13/09 A3003 RMK AC1CI1 SLP170
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11:02:40 <oerjan> boily: for april, maybe.
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11:03:17 <boily> maybe it's still April over at your place. who knows, timezones are complicated.
11:03:26 <oerjan> there were 3-4 hot days last week, then it went back down again.
11:04:17 <oerjan> before that, the newspaper wrote articles about "we've had only one registered june colder than this, and that was in the 1920s"
11:06:16 <oerjan> (of course records start some time in the 1800s)
11:17:17 <boily> the lowest we've hit here was 7,2 °C in 1970, highest 33,4 °C in 2003.
11:17:29 <boily> (records from 1942-2015)
11:18:22 <oerjan> oh and i think the record was average daily maximum
11:18:46 <oerjan> not actual point time extremes
11:19:16 <boily> Ō_Ō...
11:19:54 <boily> I mean, this winter we broke all kinds of records (damn you February and March!), but that happening in June...
11:20:24 <oerjan> oh it was of course record _for_ june
11:20:32 <oerjan> sheesh
11:21:47 <oerjan> now last year's january, _that_ was a freaky month.
11:22:01 <oerjan> when you get wildfires spreading, in january, in norway...
11:22:46 <oerjan> (drought, not temperature.  they were actually _sub-zero_ wildfires.)
11:23:10 <boily> LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS SUB-ZERO WILDFIRES LA LA LA
11:23:45 <oerjan> seriously, the firefighters had trouble with the water freezing.
11:24:31 <oerjan> boily: celsius not fahrenheit hth
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11:26:27 <oerjan> i'm quite sure i told you all about it at the time.
11:26:52 <boily> I may have had the same reflex at that moment hth
11:26:58 <oerjan> (well maybe not about the water freezing.)
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11:28:00 <boily> meanwhile, I'm going to take a shower. a hot shower, with unmistakeably hot water. the liquid kind that warms you. waaaaaaaaarm.
11:28:08 <oerjan> mmm
11:28:14 * oerjan will do so later.
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11:45:24 <mroman_> fnord
11:48:24 <APic\splat> Gesundheit.
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12:54:19 <mroman_> timezones are complicated.
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14:20:46 <mroman_> I need to write a bot to search for esolangs that don't involve numbers
14:21:07 <mroman_> then it will help me to create "numeric $language" :)
14:22:00 <mroman_> Numeric Whitespace. Replace \s with 0, \t with 1 and linefeeds with 2
14:22:27 <mroman_> Hppavilion1 sounds a lot like this one virus
14:22:56 <oerjan> it's an actual laptop brand hth
14:23:17 <mroman_> Human papillomavirus
14:29:21 <mroman_> Has anybody tried nuking the sun yet?
14:31:14 <mroman_> there's a quora question about that o_O
14:31:20 <mroman_> but all the answers are just "nope sun is too huge"
14:31:49 <mroman_> maybe it'll trigger a CME of doom or something
14:31:55 <mroman_> without really destroying the sun
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14:32:26 <mroman_> @tell oerjan You can't escape my nukes.
14:32:26 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
14:32:34 <mroman_> fungot can
14:33:00 <mroman_> `? can
14:33:16 <HackEgo> can? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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14:38:12 <mroman_> `learn Can cans can cans?
14:38:14 <HackEgo> Learned 'can': Can cans can cans?
14:39:44 <Jafet> Some Czechs check cheque checksums.
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14:40:05 <mroman_> It's gonna be a tough weekend
14:40:15 <mroman_> I might develop some esolang as a distraction
14:40:55 <gamemanj> Fungot is STILL gone? I thought I saw... hmm...
14:41:23 <mroman_> Nope, still hold prisoner
14:41:38 <gamemanj> Prisoner?
14:42:06 <mroman_> fizzie is evil.
14:42:11 <mroman_> he takes prisoners
14:42:14 <mroman_> or she
14:42:15 <mroman_> or it
14:42:16 <mroman_> I don't know
14:44:12 <gamemanj> For 4-or-so (When did fnord begin? I don't keep track of time.) MONTHS, or was there a bit of time in the middle?
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14:45:08 <mroman_> what?
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14:46:54 * gamemanj doesn't know when this started, but Fungot was trapped in a house for a few weeks a long time ago - is that still the case?
14:47:18 <mroman_> No, this time it's different.
14:47:21 <mroman_> More politics involved.
14:47:31 <gamemanj> Politics?
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14:50:09 <mroman_> Yeah, politics.
14:50:21 <mroman_> You know... people that get elected or elect themselves
14:50:29 <mroman_> they talk, they have a lot of differences
14:50:40 <mroman_> everyone pretends to like each other but secretely they all hate each other
14:50:44 <gamemanj> That needs more context to make sense...
14:51:13 <gamemanj> IK what politics is - how does it apply?
14:51:19 <mroman_> estonia doesn't want to admit they hate foreigners
14:51:22 <mroman_> but
14:51:26 <mroman_> whathever
14:52:07 <mroman_> gamemanj: You know that I'm crazy and just make this stuff up right?
14:52:44 <gamemanj> No...
14:52:54 <mroman_> well now you know.
14:52:54 <Jafet> We'd better set mroman to use something other than europarl.
14:53:01 <mroman_> Oh oh!
14:53:08 <mroman_> Do you want me to use "ghangsta"?
14:53:17 <gamemanj> The Estonia bit I figured was a joke, but...
14:53:18 <mroman_> Jafet: Please select a style
14:53:22 <mroman_> (using \style <style>)
14:53:40 <Jafet> Perhaps "irc" is the best.
14:53:40 <oren_> my dad was in estonia once... they mainly hate russians
14:54:10 <mroman_> There's a fnord in estonia. Although long time not seen much. Russia is
14:54:22 <oren_> but that'a common for post-soviet colonies
14:54:50 <mroman_> I used emacs once. Can it fnord files?
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14:56:32 <gamemanj> int-e... you could delay the madness for them... you know how... towel poetry magrathea
14:57:01 <mroman_> Scheme is really crispy. (fnord (cnat (cnat (fnord)).
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14:57:03 <vanila> hi
14:57:10 <mroman_> Welcome.
14:58:32 <mroman_> vanila: Current selected style is "irc".
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15:12:17 <int-e> You mean I could reactivate my fungot instance?
15:12:55 <gamemanj> Yep!
15:13:07 <int-e> I don't have the right ssh credentials right now.
15:13:39 <int-e> maybe later
15:13:40 <mroman_> Some sequences require std::vector. Notably the fact that fnord.
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15:26:33 <vanila> how about no bots?
15:26:39 <vanila> in #esoteric
15:27:01 <gamemanj> None? At all?
15:27:28 <vanila> except tunes bot
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15:32:51 <shachaf> `wisdom
15:32:52 <HackEgo> goat/Goats are drunk 24/7, ask Solain for details.
15:40:12 <oren_> `wisdom
15:40:13 <HackEgo> szoup/A szoup a szilárd tápszereknek híg alakban való elkészítése a célból, hogy könnyebben emészthetők legyenek; a hígító anyag a viz, mely feloldja s magába veszi a tápanyag legértékesebb részeit.
15:40:18 <oren_> `wisdom
15:40:19 <HackEgo> indexed monad/Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category. \ Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors.
15:40:51 <oren_> `wisdom
15:40:52 <HackEgo> structural subtyping/Not to be confused with substructural typing.
15:41:22 <vanila> this channel is just bot spam
15:41:38 <vanila> it sucks
15:41:56 <oren_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XShdmeKmNxw
15:42:54 <oren_> don't you have any love for the robots?
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15:45:04 <gamemanj> Which esoteric languages have network support...?
15:46:13 <oren_> Not many
15:46:34 <oren_> However most could easily be extened to support it
15:48:33 <oren_> L33t apparently does
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15:56:05 <hppavilion1> Hi
15:57:15 <Jafet> A better question might be: which esolangs are inherently networked
15:58:16 <hppavilion1> Inherently networked?
15:58:18 <hppavilion1> Huh
15:58:19 <hppavilion1> ?
15:58:56 <hppavilion1> A BETTER question might be: Brainfuck with networking. How do we do it and make it useful?
15:59:27 <oren_> `cat emoticons/gaaan
15:59:28 <HackEgo> ​ｶﾞ~(ﾟﾛﾟ;)~ﾝ
16:01:27 <hppavilion1> `cat emoticons/*
16:01:27 <HackEgo> cat: emoticons/*: No such file or directory
16:01:33 <hppavilion1> Sadface
16:01:44 <hppavilion1> `` ls emoticons
16:01:44 <HackEgo> drowning \ flipbird \ gaaan \ gaan \ kyaa \ shrug \ swatter \ useless
16:05:07 <hppavilion1> t(-_-t)
16:05:20 <MDude> An esoteric language where non-trivial programs require messages to get bounced between multiple machines?
16:05:44 <hppavilion1> OOoooh...
16:06:07 <oren_> hppavilion1: I think you mean 凸
16:06:14 <FireFly> MDude: sorry, TIS-100 was released a month ago
16:06:28 <hppavilion1> I just see a block- Oooooooooh
16:06:35 <hppavilion1> I prefer t(-_-t)
16:06:38 <hppavilion1> It looks bettter
16:06:47 <MDude> What's TIS-100?
16:07:14 <FireFly> A game slash assembly-ish programming language that requires data to get bounced between multiple machines for nontrivial programs
16:07:37 <oren_> Hmm... scripts differ in how much a character can differ between fonts
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16:08:18 <hppavilion1> Hi variable!
16:08:24 <hppavilion1> Well, constant!
16:08:36 <constant> hppavilion1: hi!
16:08:42 <hppavilion1> How's it going
16:08:43 <hppavilion1> ?
16:08:53 * constant focussing on some coding
16:08:54 <FireFly> (each node can hold up to two numbers, although only one is accessible at a time)
16:08:56 * hppavilion1 awkwardly makes smalltalk (No Pun Intended)
16:10:05 <hppavilion1> I have to go
16:10:10 <hppavilion1> I'll be back in a bit
16:14:26 <MDude> But what is the source of the song in http://www.4chan.org/flash?file=dsfargeg.swf&title=dsfargeg ?
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16:14:35 <MDude> Dangit I"m int he wrong freaking channel
16:15:18 <MDude> This is what happens when I go to seven channels on three servers, and at least two discuss programming-related things sometimes.
16:15:26 <MDude> Usually more.
16:19:13 <int-e> To add insult to the injury, I also deleted that fungot/funge experiment. So I probably won't revive it.
16:20:30 <int-e> Oh, not quite. I moved lambdabot to a different host in the meantime... the files are still around.
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16:24:19 <int-e> ^style
16:24:20 <fnordbot> Available: irc*
16:24:46 <int-e> Ok, that was easier than I thought.
16:24:50 <int-e> fnordbot: explain!
16:24:51 <fnordbot> int-e: on a piece. within a few short vog years every last vogon had migrated to the megabrantis cluster, the political economy. deep in the heart of a dark screen, just under five years, but you will when i was a kid you just saved a lot. " so," said ford, " you reckon, what's the problem? a sudden silence afterwards." you can tell. he sat at it for a while. but he didn't turn yet," a voice said " i seem to be having tremendou
16:25:24 <gamemanj> Yay! Fnord is back!
16:25:32 <oren_> holy crap, the USSC has gone for it 
16:29:21 <oren_> I did not expect that
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16:29:51 <hppavilion1> IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'm back
16:31:23 <oren_> good afternoooooon
16:34:29 <hppavilion1> IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'm leaving
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16:34:39 <oren_> byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyw
16:45:19 <oren_> Hmm... So we have variable typing, like Java or C, and value typing, like python or haskell. is there any other options?
16:46:22 <gamemanj> oren_: Line number typing, where the type changes based on line number?
16:46:35 <oren_> the type of what?
16:47:01 <gamemanj> Values.
16:47:17 <oren_> Then that would be valeu typing with a weird syntax, right?
16:48:36 <oren_> I suppose you have operator typing, like Forth
16:49:04 <oren_> (values are just bits. the operator determines what those bits are interpreted as)
16:49:07 <gamemanj> "Then that would be valeu typing with a weird syntax, right?" : Yes.
16:49:37 <gamemanj> But where's the fun in saying that?
16:51:24 <oren_> OpenGL is partially variable typed and partially operator tpyed
16:52:53 <oren_> (you give it a set of numbers, and whether those numbers are in groups of 9 representing triangles or 6 representing lines, or whatever, is determined separately)
16:54:14 <oren_> I suppose there is also "monotyping" where only one type is supported directly.
16:54:47 <oren_> like BF or sed
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17:28:07 <oren_> Am I missing anything?
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17:32:07 <hppavlion1> Hi
17:32:28 <oren_> hi
17:34:42 <oren_> are there any type systems that aren't in one of those groups?
17:39:20 <izabera> what about the "everything is a string" type?
17:39:35 <hppavlion1> How about the mandatorily dynamic type?
17:40:01 <hppavlion1> Every time you reassign a variable, the new value has to be a different type from its current value
17:41:00 <b_jonas> hppavlion1: only its current value, or all the previous values? do languages with only mutable-once variables count?
17:41:13 <hppavlion1> Only current value
17:41:26 <b_jonas> oh that's easy enough, just zero the value temporarily
17:41:30 <b_jonas> before any assignment
17:41:40 <hppavlion1> OR all previous values
17:41:41 <hppavlion1> I know
17:41:48 <hppavlion1> Depending on the language
17:41:49 <hppavlion1> I know
17:42:00 <hppavlion1> But it's still a different type system
17:42:14 <hppavlion1> Also, the VERY weak type system
17:42:35 <hppavlion1> 2+'2'=='4'
17:42:53 <hppavlion1> (The above statement evaluates to true)
17:42:56 <Jafet> The PHP stringly-typed system
17:43:23 <hppavlion1> ALSO
17:43:28 <hppavlion1> The xkcd type system
17:43:29 <hppavlion1> http://xkcd.com/1537/
17:47:32 <hppavlion1> Any other type systems?
17:48:00 <hppavlion1> How about the overly-static type system?
17:48:11 <hppavlion1> Inverse of mandatorily dynamic
17:48:18 <hppavlion1> Variables can't change type
17:48:27 <hppavlion1> And they all have to be the same type
17:49:40 <hppavlion1> Then there's a family of of kinda-sora-dynamic types
17:49:53 <hppavlion1> The first one makes it so variabels can change type, but only in a family
17:50:24 <hppavlion1> (int can become short or long, but not char, char can become string. Groups are arbitrary, not memory based)
17:50:29 <hppavlion1> The other is rotary
17:50:33 <hppavlion1> Variables can change tyep
17:50:43 <hppavlion1> But they can only change to the next type in a chain
17:50:59 <hppavlion1> The chain loops back to the beginning
17:52:55 <hppavlion1> b_jonas? Your thoughts?
18:24:41 <hppavlion1> Bai all
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18:56:09 <shachaf> `wisdom
18:56:10 <HackEgo> qdbformat/qdbformat is: <nick> message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two
18:57:50 <shachaf> `wisdom
18:57:52 <HackEgo> metasepia/metasepia knows the weather at your nearest airport, and also something about ducks.
18:58:10 <shachaf> `wisdom
18:58:11 <HackEgo> monoids/Monoids are the easy version of categories.
18:58:16 <shachaf> `wisdom
18:58:17 <HackEgo> ​⌨/You are probably using one right now!
18:58:24 <shachaf> `wisdom
18:58:25 <HackEgo> qzyzzalroum/You should start the crossword over.
18:58:36 <shachaf> `wisdom
18:58:37 <HackEgo> arothmorphise/arothmorphise ... antormo... antrohm... ant... oh bugger. This should go in the `misspellings of antrhrop... atnhro...' entry.
18:58:46 <shachaf> `wisdom
18:58:48 <int-e> `` sed -i s/knows/knew/ wisdom/metasepia
18:58:49 <HackEgo> code/[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,1555466973690094680980000956080767,13720946704494913791885940266665466978579582015128512190078...
18:58:50 <HackEgo> No output.
18:59:38 <int-e> @duck
18:59:38 <lambdabot> Maybe you meant: docs dice
18:59:44 <shachaf> `wisdom
18:59:44 <HackEgo> fternoon/Fternoon is the time of day when the Danes usually eat their fternooners.
18:59:46 <int-e> @dice 100d100
18:59:46 <lambdabot> int-e: 5028
18:59:54 <shachaf> 100d100
18:59:54 <lambdabot> shachaf: 5412
19:01:12 <int-e> hmm, does that contextual dice come up often?
19:04:00 <shachaf> I can't remember ever seeing it come up accidentally.
19:04:06 <shachaf> Though it must occasionally.
19:04:34 <shachaf> But it doesn't trigger in the middle 100d100 of a sentence.
19:04:45 <shachaf> 1 + 3 + 5d4
19:04:45 <lambdabot> shachaf: 1 + 3 + 13 => 17
19:04:47 <int-e> ok, sounds harmless enough then :)
19:04:55 <int-e> 1+2+3d1
19:04:55 <lambdabot> int-e: 1 + 2 + (1+1+1) => 6
19:04:58 <int-e> 1+2+3
19:05:13 <shachaf> Yes, the ol' d1 lambdabot calculator trick.
19:05:14 <int-e> and it's clever enough to require at least one die throw
19:05:21 <Jafet> 999999999d2
19:05:22 <lambdabot> Jafet: 1499981740
19:05:42 <Jafet> 999999999999d2
19:05:42 <lambdabot> Jafet: 1500000212521
19:05:59 <int-e> Jafet: it's using a normal distribution for that
19:06:09 <int-e> (rounding, obviously)
19:06:11 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:06:11 <HackEgo> character/A character is just a homomorphism to the group of complex numbers of modulus 1.
19:06:39 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:06:40 <HackEgo> bc/bc ௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵
19:06:44 <int-e> `? out of character
19:06:44 <HackEgo> out of character? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
19:06:45 <shachaf> `culprits wisdom/bc
19:06:47 <HackEgo> oerjan elliott Bike FreeFull guestbot
19:06:53 <shachaf> `` hg log wisdom/bc | grep summary:
19:06:55 <HackEgo> summary:     <Bike> revert \ summary:     <FreeFull> for x in wisdom/*; do rev "$x" > "$x"a; mv "$x"a "$x"; done \ summary:     <guestbot> learn bc \xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\xb5\xe0\xaf\x
19:07:06 <shachaf> What's this guestbot thing?
19:07:08 <shachaf> `rm wisdom/bc
19:07:10 <HackEgo> No output.
19:07:14 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:07:16 <HackEgo> bowser/A Bowser is a Koopa client for convenient administration of mooks in Mushroom Kingdom.
19:08:28 <zzo38> I don't know?
19:09:15 <int-e> `` learn A trick learnt is a trick half forgotten.
19:09:17 <HackEgo> Learned 'a': A
19:09:21 <int-e> sigh.
19:09:27 <int-e> `revert
19:09:35 <HackEgo> rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done.
19:10:06 <int-e> `? a
19:10:06 <HackEgo> A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters.
19:10:11 <int-e> `learn A trick learnt is a trick half forgotten.
19:10:13 <HackEgo> Learned 'trick': A trick learnt is a trick half forgotten.
19:11:05 <int-e> `? bots
19:11:05 <HackEgo> bots? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
19:11:09 <int-e> `? bot
19:11:10 <HackEgo> bot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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19:12:40 <int-e> `? lambdabot
19:12:40 <HackEgo> lambdabot is a fully functional bot. just don't ask about @src.
19:12:45 <int-e> `? fungot
19:12:46 <HackEgo> fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason.
19:13:04 <int-e> fnordbot: you're just a poor substitute.
19:13:05 <fnordbot> int-e: of no significance of anything he did. " you're really not going to be outcooled. panic sprouted again, desperate that any man who can," ford hissed at him to stop his hands. the marketing division of the sirius cybernetics corporation as " a bunch of mindless tedium... " you think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is the story to him to ask a question which had been bothering him. in a few seconds," he continued
19:17:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Typing]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43297&oldid=43295 * Zzo38 * (+37) 
19:18:09 <int-e> hmm, ais523 has not returned after being kicked by oerjan...
19:20:38 <zzo38> We are having to make Unusenet now, in case you don't have Usenet then you can use Unusenet by NNTP
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19:31:11 <oren_> @seen ais523
19:31:11 <lambdabot> AIS523
19:31:28 <oren_> @help
19:31:28 <lambdabot> help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
19:34:03 <oren_> @where ais523
19:34:03 <lambdabot> I know nothing about ais523.
19:36:21 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create  * EmptyJL *  New user account
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19:39:03 <shachaf> zzo38: If I don't have Usenet, why would I have Unusenet?
19:39:52 <oren_> seen doesn't work anymore?
19:40:34 <Jafet> @seen oren
19:40:35 <lambdabot> 0rEN
19:41:12 <oren_> @seen oren
19:41:12 <lambdabot> OReN
19:41:27 <zzo38> In case you can't use Usenet (many service providers no longer support it I have heard, and even if they do some groups may be missing), so we can make up Unusenet instead.
19:41:41 <oren_> @seen oren_
19:41:42 <lambdabot> OREn_
19:42:07 <oren_> it should say "oren_ is in #esoteric, Oren last spoke at something something"
19:43:17 <shachaf> who's to say what it should or shouldn't do?
19:43:21 <shachaf> `wisdom
19:43:22 <HackEgo> category/Categories are just a special case of bicategories.
19:46:12 <zzo38> Why did Atheneti join this channel just to send me a private message containing a link to a gopher server on a non-standard port number that contained instruction to tell a user on another IRC network something?
19:48:22 <oren_> that's weird
19:49:33 <oren_> As of today, I have been running the same irssi process for 25 days
19:50:58 <oren_> seems that irssi has stable code
19:52:09 <shachaf> zzo38: Which user on what network?
19:54:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noisett]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43298 * EmptyJL * (+2832) Created page with "  Noisett is a minimalistic multi-agent middleware, where agents are tiny pattern-triggered peers. These agents are named "Nuts". When they receive a message, they can send ot..."
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20:02:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noisett]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43300&oldid=43298 * EmptyJL * (+24) 
20:03:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Number-rock]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43301 * Zzo38 * (+2970) Created page with "[[Category:Languages]][[Category:2015]][[Category:Unimplemented]]  [[Number-rock]] is the programming language where the program consist of a series of definitions. It is not ..."
20:04:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noisett]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43302&oldid=43300 * EmptyJL * (+25) 
20:04:49 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noisett]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43303&oldid=43302 * EmptyJL * (+2) 
20:06:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Number-rock]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43304&oldid=43301 * Zzo38 * (+45) 
20:07:30 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:07:31 <HackEgo> XQELEKCTHZVBDBQR/Who told you this?
20:07:33 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:07:34 <HackEgo> 1/The 1 is just for disambiguation.
20:07:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Zzo38/cologneblue.css]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43305 * Zzo38 * (+416) Created page with ".postedit, #sitesub, #titlelinks, #sitetitle, #siteNotice, #footer-navigation, .tagline, #mw-navigation, .mw-editTools, #editpage-copywarn { display: none; } .tocnumber, .mw-h..."
20:08:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Zzo38/cologneblue.js]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43306 * Zzo38 * (+223) Created page with "$(mw.util.addPortletLink('p-personal','#',undefined,undefined,undefined,'g')).click(function(e){   var x;   e.preventDefault();   x=prompt("Goto?",mw.config.get('wgPageName'))..."
20:14:02 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:14:02 <HackEgo> tanebvention/Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex.
20:14:10 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:14:11 <HackEgo> ​øl/Øl, øl og mere øl.
20:15:26 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:15:27 <HackEgo> phở/Phở là một món ăn truyền thống của Việt Nam, cũng có thể xem là một trong những món ăn đặc trưng nhất cho ẩm thực Việt Nam.
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20:17:46 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:17:47 <HackEgo> unlambda/``ci`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n`.U`ci
20:17:58 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:17:59 <HackEgo> forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication.
20:18:21 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:18:22 <HackEgo> ascii/ascii is the plural of ascius
20:18:30 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:18:31 <HackEgo> endofunctor/Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories.
20:18:35 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:18:36 <HackEgo> logs/I think you might mean !logs
20:18:51 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:18:52 <HackEgo> torus/Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented them.
20:19:26 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:19:27 <HackEgo> right/Right is not two wrongs but three lefts.
20:19:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noisett]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43307&oldid=43303 * 90.5.212.59 * (+102) 
20:20:44 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:20:46 <HackEgo> pietbot/Pietbot is the only thing that can defeat fungot.
20:20:53 <shachaf> oh no
20:20:54 <int-e> `` sed -i s/them/it/ wisdom/torus
20:20:56 <HackEgo> No output.
20:21:02 <shachaf> we've found the culprit
20:22:58 <int-e> `? culprit
20:22:58 <HackEgo> ​`culprits` is a program that lists the lists the nicks responsible for a wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits wisdom/ENTRY
20:23:05 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noisett]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43308&oldid=43307 * EmptyJL * (+44) 
20:27:10 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noisett]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43309&oldid=43308 * 90.5.212.59 * (+0) 
20:34:14 <shachaf> don't edit it!
20:34:56 <shachaf> `culprits wisdom/culprits
20:34:57 <HackEgo> No output.
20:34:58 <shachaf> oops
20:35:00 <shachaf> `culprits wisdom/culprit
20:35:01 <HackEgo> badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom
20:35:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Owk]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43310 * Phase * (+3599) Add Owk language
20:40:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Owk]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43311&oldid=43310 * Phase * (-149) Fix code blocks
20:44:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Phase]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43312 * Phase * (+212) My very own page
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20:46:02 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:46:03 <HackEgo> thausiblee/A thausiblee is the recipient of a thausible action.
20:46:11 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:46:11 <HackEgo> herbalist/A herbalist is a list of herbas.
20:46:15 <shachaf> `wisdom
20:46:16 <HackEgo> forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication.
20:46:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/move]] move  * Phase *  moved [[Phase]] to [[User:Phase]]: Forgot the "User:"
20:47:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Owk]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43315&oldid=43311 * Phase * (+5) 
20:47:35 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Cod]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43316&oldid=43291 * Phase * (+5) 
20:51:33 <b_jonas> ais523: I realized something about M:tG. In the ravnica block, the cards costing hybrid mana are completely uniform: every guild has exactly one common, it costs one hybrid mana plus possibly some colorless; one uncommon hybrid card which is the guildmage; and one rare hybrid. Was this obvious to everyone other than me?
20:52:18 <ais523> b_jonas: it's called "cycles"
20:52:30 <ais523> the M:tG designers put them in a lot because people like seeing them
20:54:00 <b_jonas> ais523: yes, sure, but I didn't realize this particular cycle of commons 
20:54:18 <b_jonas> even though I knew three or four cards of them, and knew about the guildmages and a few other guild cycles
20:54:46 <b_jonas> probably it's because I sometimes don't realize what cards are from ravnica rather than shadowmoor
20:55:57 <b_jonas> and sure, there are other cycles that took a long time for me to realize
20:56:03 <b_jonas> not in ravnica
20:58:17 <b_jonas> also, for a very long time I didn't know about Gaze of the Gorgon, despite that for a long time I was thinking of building a deck that would need that card and was trying to look for such cards
20:58:33 <b_jonas> and by the time I realized that Gaze of the Gorgon exists, shadowmoor was already out with a lot of hybrids
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21:14:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Lamb]] N http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=43317 * Phase * (+875) Added the Lamb language
21:17:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43318&oldid=43299 * Phase * (+10) /* C */  Added Cod language
21:18:29 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43319&oldid=43318 * Phase * (+11) /* L */  Added Lamb language
21:19:03 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43320&oldid=43319 * Phase * (+10) /* O */  Added Owk language
21:21:56 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Hppavilion1]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43321&oldid=43279 * Phase * (+41) Add link the GitHub page
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21:27:10 <keren> hola
21:28:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Developers]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43322&oldid=43128 * Phase * (+14711) Copy Uncyclopedia article, as it may be deleted
21:29:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noit o' mnain worb]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43323&oldid=34952 * 86.130.248.38 * (+38) /* Etymology */ explain what the hidden message is
21:29:51 <keren> hola
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22:07:19 <oerjan> <oren_> holy crap, the USSC has gone for it <-- oh no.  does that mean we're doomed?  if only i knew wtf you're referring to twh
22:08:22 <coppro> oerjan: same-sex marriage
22:09:55 <oerjan> the united states sentencing commission has to meddle in everything.
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22:10:07 <boily> @metar ENVA
22:10:07 <lambdabot> ENVA 262150Z 32006KT 9999 BKN026 09/04 Q1016 RMK WIND 670FT 33007KT
22:10:11 <boily> @metar CYUL
22:10:11 <lambdabot> CYUL 262200Z 31008KT 30SM FEW060 FEW090 FEW240 24/08 A3005 RMK SC1AC1CI2 SC TR AC TR SLP177 DENSITY ALT 1000FT
22:10:31 * oerjan suddenly senses a weird surplus of canadians.
22:11:01 <oerjan> bollyho
22:12:46 <boily> weird surplus? I don't think we're too many Canadians in this chännel.
22:12:50 <olsner> canadians? I thought this was full of finns
22:12:57 <boily> allœ̂rjan!
22:13:21 <boily> well, our finns aren't doing too well lately...
22:13:31 * boily pokes through fizzie's ghostly aura
22:13:39 <olsner> no fungot either
22:13:54 <oerjan> olsner: it was just the weirdness of discussing us news with only canadians involved
22:14:40 <int-e> ^rreree test
22:14:56 <shachaf> `wisdom
22:15:08 <shachaf> oerjan: i'm not canadian yet hth
22:15:12 <zzo38> I am also Canadian
22:15:15 <HackEgo> loop/loop: see loop
22:15:22 <olsner> I am also not canadian
22:15:57 <coppro> to fix a canadian surplus, call them americans
22:15:57 <int-e> @metar LOWI
22:15:57 <lambdabot> LOWI 262150Z AUTO VRB01KT 9999 OVC120 18/12 Q1021
22:16:00 <oerjan> shachaf: you also weren't speaking
22:17:43 <boily> coppro: bleh!
22:19:17 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noisett]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43325&oldid=43309 * EmptyJL * (+48) 
22:20:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Noisett]]  http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43326&oldid=43325 * EmptyJL * (+4) 
22:25:31 <zzo38> This is the code of Famizork so far http://sprunge.us/dOfH it doesn't quite work I wonder if you can know the mistake? I found a few mistakes and fixed it but possibly if many people look, more mistake can be figure out
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22:47:57 <shachaf> `wisdom
22:48:01 <HackEgo> off by two/An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction.
22:48:35 <boily> `wisdom
22:48:36 <HackEgo> tdt/That doesn't tdt.
22:49:11 <boily> `culprits wisdom/tdt
22:49:14 <HackEgo> oerjan
22:49:27 <boily> nst.
22:50:04 <int-e> no such tst?
22:50:13 <int-e> oh, got it.
22:50:29 <int-e> ...surprisingly...
22:50:38 <boily> ^^
22:54:52 <quintopia> helloily
22:56:00 <ais523> hmm, pretty much all the spam that's been getting past my spam filter has been the "your email account is being upgraded/blocked/etc., please log in here to refresh it" kind
22:56:12 <ais523> but I run my own email server
22:56:26 <boily> quinthellopia!
22:56:37 <quintopia> is there a filter you can make that stops those too?
22:56:38 <ais523> the spambots seem to have assumed it's an academic server, I think
22:56:51 <ais523> quintopia: well it's a bayesian filter, it'll catch any that look similar enough to the ones that have come before
22:56:56 <ais523> maybe they just have more variety
22:57:17 <quintopia> do you have a beer boily
22:57:28 <boily> quintopia: I had a beer.
22:58:58 <quintopia> i have one chilling in the freezer. shouldn't take more than a few minutes before i have one.
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23:01:37 <boily> what kind of beer is it?
23:01:45 <quintopia> summer shandy
23:01:49 <quintopia> cuz it's hot
23:01:51 <quintopia> outside
23:03:25 <boily> ooooh! somebody else who likes shandy! :D
23:04:10 <quintopia> well it's not a radler. the only fizz is the natural beer kind.
23:06:40 <quintopia> there are lots of ginger shandies at the beer store, mostly from the islands
23:06:48 <quintopia> but lemon is more refreshing imo
23:09:11 <oren_> the thing stores 8f to 4000, then 48 to 4001, then 64 to 4002, then finally 10 to 4003
23:09:47 <oren_> thus producing an annoying beepthat I am trying to eliminate 
23:12:06 <boily> helloren_. what's a thing?
23:12:22 <oren_> the nes game 1942
23:12:43 <oren_> with the worst sound of any nes game I have ever played
23:13:07 <quintopia> change them all to zeros!
23:13:31 <oren_> quintopia: I have to figure out where the values come from first
23:14:49 <oren_> well they are read from 0753-0756
23:15:46 <quintopia> boily: so when will the day come?
23:16:27 <boily> quintopia: yes.
23:16:45 <quintopia> the day when
23:16:50 <quintopia> you can play games
23:16:52 <quintopia> on your computer
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23:17:30 <zzo38> Is there Windows API to figure out how much space is take up by the border, caption, menu of the window so that you can figure out the proper size of the main area?
23:18:03 <quintopia> i thought there was one that actually just told you what th esize of the main area is? or does it give wrong answers?
23:18:44 <zzo38> I don't know, what one is it though?
23:21:30 <ais523> zzo38: there is; I can't remember the actual name, but windows uses the name "client area" for the main area, and "non-client area" for the border, caption, menus etc.
23:21:34 <ais523> so those are good search terms to use
23:21:43 <quintopia> i would expect it to be one of thesse things: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms724385(v=vs.85).aspx
23:22:12 <ais523> I think it might have had "metrics" in the name?
23:22:55 <quintopia> or maybe that's more general than a particular window
23:25:02 <zzo38> The VB6 "Height" and "Width" properties are including the non-client area
23:25:03 <quintopia> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms633503(v=vs.85).aspx this looks promising
23:25:14 <oren_> maybe I can replace the code with a JMP to some zeroed pat of the rom and write some interception code?
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23:30:20 <zzo38> I figured it out I don't need any API functions
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23:52:07 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Developers]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=43327&oldid=43322 * Oerjan * (-14711) Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Phase|Phase]] ([[User talk:Phase|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:24.150.81.84|24.150.81.84]]
23:52:48 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/delete]] revision  * Oerjan *  Oerjan changed visibility of revisions on page [[Developers]]: Copyright violation
23:53:20 <ais523> ooh, we have revision visibility changing now?
23:53:34 <oerjan> haven't we always?
23:53:35 <ais523> my skills at manual revision deletion are possibly entirely obsolete then :-(
23:53:44 <oerjan> ah
23:53:51 <ais523> nah, it hadn't even been invented when I first became an Esolang admin
23:53:57 <oerjan> heh
23:53:58 <ais523> I've done it manually at Wikipedia too
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