< 1088125954 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as07-pho-az-205-186-110-131.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088126024 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088126169 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088126227 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello iamcal < 1088126250 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just 'cal' is fine ;) < 1088126281 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be very confusing, almost like I'm talking to myself.. I guess here that would be perfect :) < 1088126306 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1088126675 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 people! < 1088126678 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing. < 1088126701 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/people/agent < 1088126704 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1088126907 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lament < 1088128333 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1088150399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1088150400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1088151408 0 :WildHalcyon!~1c34f3b3@c-24-18-250-7.client.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088151510 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"buh bye" < 1088152268 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/" < 1088154082 0 :andreou!~sam@athe530-l021.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1088154192 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to cmeme? < 1088154940 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"A tree excells at being a tree." < 1088161012 0 :andreou!~sam@212.205.234.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1088162443 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"A tree excells at being a tree." < 1088163247 0 :andreou!~sam@212.205.247.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1088163973 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"A tree excells at being a tree." < 1088178349 0 :andreou!~sam@212.205.246.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1088179028 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"A tree excells at being a tree." < 1088182551 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as01-pho-az-205-186-104-14.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088182569 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1088182843 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suggests: Welcome to the esoteric programming channel! Logs of previous discussions are available at http://tunes.org/~coreyr/date.php?chan=esoteric
< 1088184846 0 :andreou!~sam@212.205.255.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1088186036 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1088187226 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1088191221 0 :calamari_!JeffryJohn@as10-pho-az-205-186-113-221.rasserver.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1088191273 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about bf optimizations... < 1088191342 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a program takes no input, and produces no output then it can be replaced by either a program that immediately exits or freezes (depending on if the original exits) < 1088191391 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it takes no input, and exits, any output produced could be captured and reproduced < 1088191424 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, given a particular set of inputs, it is the same as having no inputs < 1088191502 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if input is not predetermined and there is no output, it still can't be optimized, because the act of exiting the program provides information (could return a binary answer that way, say 1=exit, 0=didn't exit) < 1088191549 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow.. that was my random thought on optimizations :) < 1088191569 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, the only you should know will it exits or not :) < 1088191694 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: it could be assumed that all programs will eventually exit, by loss of power, malfunction, etc < 1088191800 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then, I guess we should say with no i/o commands, an empty program is the best optimization? < 1088191917 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should the malfunction be considered an input that is not predetermined? that would mess up the whole idea < 1088191919 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++++++++++ (ord 'n' times) .++++++++ (ord 'o' times). [] < 1088192369 0 :andreou!~sam@212.205.234.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1088193058 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1088194077 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no such thing as a malfunction. current probabilistic primality testing algorithms are less likely to err than a "correct" primality tester is to give a wrong answer thanks to a flipped bit due to some random electromagnetic radiation (at least so 'they' tell me), but we still think the second algorithm is always correct. < 1088195761 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"A tree excells at being a tree." < 1088203863 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1088203881 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088203881 0 :cmeme2!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088203997 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1088203997 0 :cmeme2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1088204036 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088204947 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1088205621 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1088205662 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1088205908 0 :cmeme!~cmeme@216.184.11.30.unused.swcp.com JOIN :#esoteric